Gooseberry Crumble

This is Angie Dickinsons most recent TV interview from 2016. Mentally still pretty sharp.

https://thefreshtoast.com/celebrity/gossip-barbara-walters-is-missing/amp/ The content on this gossip website makes me start to think that Barbara Walters may well be in failing health. Speculative of course but if this "withdrawal" persists I'd definitely be feeling she's worthy of serious consideration for the deathlist.

Now that Sir is what I would call a brilliant fantastic list!

Thanks

I look forward to that day whenever it arrives! Enjoyed the discussion with all.

I'm certainly not advocating quotas! I think Istarted by first saying that I don't want to be another Harriet Harman! Whilst a 50/50 split would be absurd and over the top I do personally think and feel that there could and should be a few more women on the list. I was highlighting my own unconscious bias or slant of thinking too. Whilst I accept that there were more prominent men than women in the past I don't think that explains fully the numbers. It's only a partial explanation. Your right in the grand scheme of things it's not a big issue and in the context of just this forum it isn't a big issue. Perhaps a mild medium issue that was worth highlighting. That's all. I'm not a overzealous missionary or evangelist for this issue but I feel it's worthy of mention.

Happy Birthday Sir!

Thanks for the update @msc

Well no not really. Lot's of posters male picks are duds too! We will have to agree to disagree.

I think she has housemaids for that!

What does tbqhwy mean please?

The year is young! There's a lot of women in my three deadpool Crumble teams but point taken! I did make it clear I wasn't attacking the committee my observations hold true of of many on this forum including me. It's just thoughtful reflection and self awareness. And yes you've been polite rather than indirectly calling me a troll for disagreeing with you like you did the other day.

A number of them do have known health problems. Prunella Scales -dementia, Liza Minnellis are well documented and she has a long history of heavy drug use and alcohol abuse which is a risk factor for early death, Joan Plowright is going blind which puts her at higher risks of falls and has had to give up her theatre work, Barbara Bush has been hospitalised in recent months and is likely to be widowed soon which in itself is a risk factor , there's long been rumours about the health of Barbara Walters after she didn't do some guest segments on television and ailing health has been reported on, Dorothy Malone and Joanne Woodward are both supposed to have dementia and in the case of Woodward it was reported in us entertainment magazines,. So no I don't agree with how your interpreting my list. Can anyone really argue that Olivia De Havilland isn't and hasn't been included on the list in the past mainly because of age rather than known health problems? I have no problem with that but I'm just saying, We know it's an inexact science hence why the committee has never got higher than 14 out of 50 Women live longer but there are plenty of famous older women!

Can you explain please why it's so much more difficult to choose and predict for women candidates than men? I think your stated reasons are weak. The difficulties you outline are not specific to women. Your comments are also applicable to a number of the male candidates on the deathlist like Sandy Gall and Denis Norden Your making an argument for including elderly men who are not known to be ill but not for including elderly women who are not known to be ill. That's inconsistent and the disparity in longevity between men and women is not so big as to justify your rationale.

Pretty good I think although as you and indeed the committee know it's an inexact science. I don't see that predicting and choosing likely women is anymore difficult than predicting/choosing for men. I won't share anything like my big list of potential female candidates but here is a few 1)Dorothy Malone 2) Joanne Woodward 3) Liza Minnelli 4) Prunella Scales 5)Sheila Mercier 6) Liliane Bettencourt 7)Maggie Smith 8) Barbara Walters 9) Joan Plowright 10)Barbara Bush Just my thoughts that there's plenty of decent female candidates that the committee could think of including. Whether they will or not is ultimately their decision I'm just politely speaking aloud with a friendly gentle nudge!

Goodness Queen Victoria consumed cannabis in her own special way!

No doubt in my mind at all that it will be Bush who passes away first.

I honestly think that I could easily type up hundreds of deathlisty notable women. I don't think there's a massive shortage of them. Although I don't think you'd want me too!

I've a strong feeling that it won't be long at all now until there's another "hit" on the deathlist. Not very scientific I grant you but that's really what my gut instinct is telling me.

Whilst I don't want to sound like I'm trying to be another Harriet Harman, I do find it striking that on a list of 50 only ten names are women. Whilst I'm not expecting or saying there should be a fifty fifty spilt /25 male names 25 female names I do think it's a little unbalanced. I'm not alleging sexism or anything like that on the part of the committee just maybe their too focused or immersed in fields of interest etc that are male dominated? It's not as if there's a shortage of famous women, Infact given that women tend to live a bit longer than men there's almost certainly more of them! I think perhaps the committee needs to be "feminised" a little or at least come under some more feminine influence in order to broaden out the choices on the list a little? I have no idea about the composition of the committee but I do sense a lack of females or feminine input and influence! Maybe some oestrogen patches are a necessity?!! This year's list could have been unusual in this respect but whilst not criticising anyone I do think it's worth highlighting it.

Their certainly addictive although it was more the Pinball Wizard games that ate up most of my money when I went to the arcades as a youngster!

Well any kind of coins really not neccesarily just pennies but yes you've got the basic gist! Like the games that are in nearly every amusement arcade!

Loving the Tipping Point metaphor @Bibliogryphon

This is not the kind of forum that gets me indulging in self pleasuring! Instagram seems best for that! So much sexy man heaven on there!

Just started to look him up! Married an actress too. I don't know how many of the committee are on here, how often or how the committee even really works and decides things but I would urge you to continue to campaign to have your guy Bernard on the deathlist! I think you have a good chance of succeeding and a decent case!