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  1. ImNotHades

    Hollywood Survivors

    Don't judge me, I was bored as f**k.........so I made this. I don't know if there is a topic like this already (if there is i'll delete this one). If there's someone I forgot I'll add them later. Be free to correct me. Here's the full list of people (created on 03 February 2016): - The list won't go beyond 1939. It is just too many people and most will outlive us so there's no point in going beyond 39' unless half the list dies by 2025 and people born after 1940 mostly don't count as GAoH actors. Be free to name those who do. Janis Paige - 1922 Glynis Johns - 1923-2024 Eva Marie Saint - 1924 June Lockhart - 1925 Lee Grant - 1925 Dick Van Dyke - 1925 Roger Corman - 1926 Mel Brooks - 1926 Ann Blyth - 1928 Vera Miles - 1929 Bob Newhart - 1929 Tippi Hedren - 1930 Gene Hackman - 1930 Robert Wagner - 1930 Joanne Woodward - 1930 Clint Eastwood - 1930 Gena Rowlands - 1930 Robert Duvall - 1931 James Earl Jones - 1931 Mamie Van Doren - 1931 Claire Bloom - 1931 William Shatner - 1931 Carroll Baker - 1931 Leslie Caron - 1931 Barbara Eden - 1931 Mitzi Gaynor - 1931 Rita Moreno - 1931 Piper Laurie - 1932 Ellen Burstyn - 1932 Kim Novak - 1933 Sir Michael Caine - 1933 Carol Burnett - 1933 Dame Joan Collins - 1933 Julie Newmar - 1933 Roman Polanski - 1933 Alan Arkin - 1934 Richard Chamberlain - 1934 Shirley MacLaine - 1934 Sophia Loren - 1934 Brigitte Bardot - 1934 Dame Judi Dench - 1934 Dame Maggie Smith - 1934 Donald Sutherland - 1935 Dame Julie Andrews - 1935 Alain Delon - 1935 Woody Allen - 1935 Ursula Andress - 1936 Robert Redford - 1936 Walter Koeing - 1936 Margaret O'Brien - 1937 Vanessa Redgrave - 1937 Warren Beatty - 1937 George Takei - 1937 Jack Nicholson - 1937 Morgan Freeman - 1937 Bill Cosby - 1937 Dustin Hoffman - 1937 Sir Ridley Scott - 1937 Jane Fonda - 1937 Sir Anthony Hopkins - 1937 Claudia Cardinale - 1938 Connie Stevens - 1938 Sir Derek Jacobi - 1938 Christopher Lloyd - 1938 Jon Voight - 1938 Terence Hill - 1939 Francis Ford Coppola - 1939 Harvey Keitel - 1939 Sir Ian McKellen - 1939 George Hamilton - 1939 Lily Tomlin - 1939 F. Murray Abraham - 1939 John Cleese - 1939 People marked with red (Golden Age of Hollywood) have a career that started before 1953 and those in black have a career that started between 1953 and 1963 (the end years of GAoH). Blue marks are "Icons" and big stars of the classic cinema. 2023: - Gina Lollobrigida 1927 - 2023 (95) - Robert Blake 1933 - 2023 (89) 2022: - Peter Bogdanovich 1939 - 2022 (82) - Sir Sidney Poitier 1927 - 2022 (94) - Monica Vitti 1931 - 2022 (90) - Jimmy Lydon 1923 - 2022 (98) - Paul Sorvino 1939 - 2022 (83) - Nichelle Nichols 1932 - 2022 (89) - Marsha Hunt 1917 - 2022 (104) - Irene Papas 1926 - 2022 (96) - Angela Lansbury 1925 - 2022 (96) - Leslie Philips 1924 - 2022 (98) 2021: - Hal Holbrook 1925 - 2021 (95) - Cloris Leachman 1926 - 2021 (94) - Cicely Tyson 1924 - 2021 (96) - Christopher Plummer 1929 - 2021 (91) - George Segal 1933 - 2021 (87) - Olympia Dukakis 1931 - 2021 (89) - Norman Lloyd 1914 - 2021 (106) - Charles Grodin 1935 - 2021 (86) - Gavin MacLeod 1931 - 2021 (90) - Ned Beatty 1937 - 2021 (83) - Jane Withers 1926 - 2021 (95) - Ed Asner 1929 - 2021 (91) - Jean-Paul Belmondo 1933 - 2021 (88) - Jane Powell 1929 - 2021 (92) - Dean Stockwell 1936 - 2021 (85) - Arlene Dahl 1925 - 2021 (96) - Betty White 1922 - 2021 (99) 2020: - Kirk Douglas 1916 - 2020 (103) - Diana Serra Cary 1918 - 2020 (101) - Max von Sydow 1929 - 2020 (90) - Honor Blackman 1925 - 2020 (94) - Shirley Knight 1936 - 2020 (83) - Jerry Stiller 1927 - 2020 (92) - Sir Ian Holm 1931 - 2020 (88) - Carl Reiner 1922 - 2020 (98) - Dame Olivia de Havilland 1916 - 2020 (104) - Marge Champion 1919 - 2020 (101) - Rhonda Fleming 1923 - 2020 (97) - Sir Sean Connery 1930 - 2020 (90) 2019: - Carol Channing 1921 - 2019 (97) - Julie Adams 1926 - 2019 (92) - Albert Finney 1936 - 2019 (82) - Doris Day 1922 - 2019 (97) - Rip Torn 1931 - 2019 (88) - Valerie Harper 1939 - 2019 (80) - Rip Taylor 1931 - 2019 (88) 2018: - Dorothy Malone 1924 - 2018 (93) - Nanette Fabray 1920 - 2018 (97) - Miloš Forman 1932 - 2018 (86) - Patricia Morison 1915 - 2018 (103) - Tab Hunter 1931 - 2018 (86) - Mary Carlisle 1914 - 2018 (104) - Burt Reynolds 1936 - 2018 (82) 2017: - Mary Tyler Moore 1936 - 2017 (80) - Barbara Hale 1922 - 2017 (94) - Don Rickles 1926 - 2017 (90) - Sir Roger Moore 1927 - 2017 (89) - Adam West 1928 - 2017 (88) - Martin Landau 1928 - 2017 (89) - June Foray 1917 - 2017 (99) - Jeanne Moreau 1928 - 2017 (89) - Jerry Lewis 1926 - 2017 (91) - Harry Dean Stanton 1926 - 2017 (91) - Danielle Darrieux 1917 - 2017 (100) - Rose Marie 1923 - 2017 (94) 2016: - George Kennedy 1925 - 2016 (91) - Doris Roberts 1925 - 2016 (90) - Bud Spencer 1929 - 2016 (86) - Gloria DeHaven 1925 - 2016 (91) - Steven Hill 1922 - 2016 (94) - Gene Wilder 1933 - 2016 (83) - Hugh O'Brian 1925 - 2016 (91) - Lupita Tovar 1910 - 2016 (106) - Zsa Zsa Gabor 1917 - 2016 (99) - Michéle Morgan 1920 - 2016 (96) - Debbie Reynolds 1932 - 2016 (84)
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    HARE'S DEATH POOL 2024

    Whoops. Missed this one :( I was in the capital on New Years for a week and didn't get my names up....damn.
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    Quincy Jones

    Not to be confused with terminally ill comedian. Legendary music producer who outlived most people he worked with. He's close to 84 and survived 2 aneurysms and I don't think he'll survive the third. Quote from Wiki: In 1974, he suffered a life-threatening brain aneurysm, so he decided to cut back on his schedule to spend time with his friends and family. Since his family and friends believed that his life was coming to an end, they started to plan a memorial service for him. He attended his own service with his neurologist by his side in case the excitement overwhelmed him. Some of the entertainers at his service were Richard Pryor, Marvin Gaye, Sarah Vaughan and Sidney Poitier. Since the 1933/34 generation is dropping hard my guess is he won't be around for a long time, but I might be wrong. Anyway, he deserves a thread. I was surprised he didn't have one already. The man lived a full and long and stressful life. I don't know if he's ill or something but he disappeared after Natalie Cole's funeral. He was probably hiding from 2016. He's on my shadow list and some others also so I hope for a hit...that's all.
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    Ideas and possibilities for 2024

    Yeah I didn't think he was close to death but he just looks bad. I know he's 70+ but people start tours at that age. Cher is doing promo of her Christmas song all over Europe, Rod Stewart is touring, Elton is everywhere. Collins is a mystery like Ozzy and Liza Minnelli. They could be in danger of some infection, pneumonia or something.
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    Ideas and possibilities for 2024

    Nah, Delon is big enough. Maybe not US big but Europe knows him. Bardot is huge. Phil has these illnesses but I went with the 80's star death trend. Didn't know Fox was that bad now. Google time.
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    Ideas and possibilities for 2024

    I'm 30 and I know BB since forever. She is like a milestone of beauty and I don't know any movie she did. She's like Marilyn Monroe but not dead yet so people don't use her pics as much. I've seen girls use her as inspiration. She's just known. Deneuve is not as famous outside France and UK. She's an actress, not a symbol of something. No hate, just beaing real. My dad who loves French cinema had to think twice to remember her. BB beats CD in fame. Deneuve is like Belmondo. Famous but not a FAMOUS. Loren is a legend.
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    Ideas and possibilities for 2024

    Linda Ronstadt? Idk in what shape is she since the 2019 re-diagnosis. Alain Delon and Bardot could enter the game. Liza Minnelli confuses me. Sometimes she looks like days from death bed and sometimes like she has 20 years in her. Lee Grant? Since her birth year is unknown? Also, how frail is Phil Collins? Frail enough to enter the game?
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    HARE'S DEATH POOL 2023

    Finally some action again for me with Frank Borman (Joker btw)... as tradition, I get points at the end of the year just in time for harvest festivals. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/09/us/frank-borman-apollo-astronaut-obit-scn/index.html
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    Sophia Loren

    And Uranus said: "Let there be a Sophia Loren thread." All hail Uranus.
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    1. Jimmy Carter

    Sadly, Manolić will outlive them all...not even death wants that monster.
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    Morgan Freeman

    As much as I love this man and if something happened to him I would cry my eyes out, but death is still waiting for him. Saw The Story of God and he looks good for 79. But not that good. He's old and it shows. He's slow and a bit confused. I read something about him having Fibromyalgia. I had no idea what that was but apparently it literally drives you insane. This is a part from some article about Fibromyalgia: The main findings of this study of 1,269 Dansih female patients were the increased risks of death due to suicide, liver disease, and cerebrovascular disease. Disturbingly, the suicide risk among fibromyalgia patients was ten times that of the general population. However, none of the fibromyalgia patients who did commit suicide had a medical history of depression or other psychiatric illness at the time of diagnosis. This is of interest in that previous studies have found increased rates of depression, anxiety, pain, fatigue and other psychiatric disorders. I think he won't live to see late 80's. Even If he does, by that time I won't be around this page anymore to prove myself wrong. Ok, you have the permission to hate me now for his thread. This time try something original and not those "Useless thread", "Too early for his thread" and "Another thread" comments. Peace out. P.S. Just found out his staring in the new version of Ben-Hur.
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    Tina Turner

    77 soon and she had that "stroke" in 2014. Years of drugs, Ike and a bad generation of musicians. Bad meaning that they were hard in the drug thing. She may live for a couple more years but better to start a thread while she's still rollin'. Bad year for music business. Ike died at 76 so let's keep this in numbers. Don't be mad at me for starting her thread. I love her and this is an honor. And I thought she already had a thread. She's retired and had a hyperactive life. A lot of people think she's dead already.
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    Tina Turner

    I hated the fact that she's on my list and that I created her forum page. This news shocked me and hit hard. The best of the best and a force who plays by her rules. I grew up knowing the fact that it's never too late for a positive change thanks to you. Rest now Tina, you deserved it.
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    Harry Belafonte

    Since he turned 89 few days ago i checked if he's got a thread, no, i didn't see one, so here i don't see him past 91 and i'll add him next year on my list
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    Harry Belafonte

    Well, my sight ain't that well I guess. RIP
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    ABBA: Frida - Princess Reuss of Plauen 1946 Bjorn 1945 Benny 1946 Agnetha 1950 Related individuals: Stig Anderson- manager 1931 - 1997 Rutger Gunnarsson - guitar guy 1946 - 2015 Ola Brunkert - drummer 1946 - 2008 Michael B. Tretow - producer 1944 Lasse Hallstrom - directed all of their music videos 1946 Linda Ulvaeus - Agnetha and Bjorn offspring 1973 Prince Heinrich Ruzzo Reuss of Plauen - Frida's dead husband 1950 - 1999
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    HARE'S DEATH POOL 2023

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11726903/Legendary-Croatia-manager-Miroslav-Blazevic-dies-aged-87-long-battle-prostate-cancer.html Didn't exactly expect it was world news but good. Second one for me.
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    HARES DEATH POOL 2022

    Thank you, thank you. It was an honor to play along. I always get late points for some reason. I wish the best to all, congrats to the winner and good luck in 2023.
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    First Celebrity Death You Remember

    First celebritiy death that I remember was of first Croatian president Franjo Tuđman in 1999 cause it was the first one covered by local media to the point that you can not miss it. But it's MJ for me, too. I think I have some memory of Pavarotti but mostly cause my music teacher held a vigil for a week in every music class...
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    HARE'S DEATH POOL 2023

    5/25 Carly Simon Ćiro Blažević (coach) 8.2. David Attenborough David Crosby 19.1. Dick Van Dyke Eric Clapton Frank Borman (astronaut) J 7.11. Gene Hackman Harry Belafonte 25.4. Imelda Marcos Jimmy Carter Joanne Woodward Josip Manolić (politician) Liza Minnelli Manolo Blahnik Mary Quant - 13.4. Mišo Kovač Ozzy Osbourne Phil Collins Roger Corman Ryan O'Neal 8.12. King Salman Queen Sirikit Vanessa Redgrave Yoko Ono subs: Emperor Akihito Bob Barker Cissy Houston
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    Winnetou

    As the title suggests...... Copy paste from Wikipedia: Karl May movies with Winnetou character In all these movies, Winnetou was played by French actor Pierre Brice, who was usually teamed with Lex Barker as Old Shatterhand. The music for all Winnetou movies (with its famous title melody played on the harmonica by Johnny Müller) was composed by German composer Martin Böttcher, except "Old Shatterhand", composed by Italian composer Riz Ortolani, and "Winnetou und sein Freund Old Firehand", composed by German composer Peter Thomas. The films were so successful in Germany, their budgets could be increased almost every time. Principal shooting usually took place in Paklenica karst river canyon national park, Croatia. The early films preceded the spaghetti western. Here's a list of actors who had a notable part in Winnetou movies: There are 9 living cast members, the last one to die was Marie Versini in 2021. Ralf Wolter 1926 Karin Dor 1938 - 2017 Gotz George 1938 - 2016 Pierre Brice 1929 - 2015 Eddi Arent 1925 - 2013 Mirko Boman 1926 - 2013 Herbert Lom 1917 - 2012 Marianne Hope 1909 - 2002 Lex Barker 1919 - 1979 Mario Adorf 1930 Marie Versini 1940 - 2021 Karl Dall 1941 - 2020 Demeter Bitenc 1922 - 2018 Chris Howland 1928 - 2013 Antun Nalis 1911 - 2000 Walt Barnes 1918 - 1998 Branko Špoljar 1914 - 1985 Daliah Lavi 1942 - 2017 Guy Madison 1922 - 1996 Terence Hill 1939 Ilija Ivezić 1926 - 2016 Anthony Steel 1920 - 2001 Renato Baldini 1921 - 1995 Stole Aranđelović 1930 - 1993 Klaus Kinski 1926 - 1991 Elke Sommer 1940 Gojko Mitić 1940 Miha Baloh 1928 - 2022 Sieghardt Rupp 1931 - 2015 Stewart Granger 1913 - 1993 Macha Meril 1940 Dušan Janićijević 1932 - 2011 Zvonimir Črnko 1936 - 2008 Antje Weisgerber 1922 - 2004 Harald Leipnitz 1926 - 2000 Slobodan Dimitrijević 1941 - 1999 Gerd Frickhoffer 1913 - 1980 Heinz Erhardt 1909 - 1979 Veljko Maričić 1907 - 1973 Sophie Hardy 1944 Rik Battaglia 1927 - 2015 Carl Lange 1909 - 1999 Leticia Roman 1941 Larry Pennell 1928 - 2013 Erik Schumann 1924 - 2007 Wolfgang Lukschy 1905 - 1983
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    Class Of 1926

    Here are the remaining legends: 6 March (97) Alan_Greenspan 12 March (97) Gudrun_Ure 12 March (97) George_Ariyoshi 25 March (97) Gene_Shalit 30 March (96) Peter_Marshall 1 April (97) Gérard_La_Forest 5 April (97) Roger_Corman 6 April (97) Alexander_Butterfield 8 May (97) David_Attenborough 27 May (97) Kees_Rijvers 29 May (97) Abdoulaye_Wade 3 June (97) Roscoe_Bartlett 19 June (97) Erna_Schneider_Hoover 28 June (97) Mel_Brooks 19 July (97) Helen_Gallagher 21 July (97) Norman_Jewison 28 July (97) Walt_Brown_(politician) 30 July (97) Betye_Saar 19 August (97) Arthur_Rock 29 August (97) Rafael_Ithier 15 September (97) Jean-Pierre_Serre 16 October (97) Charles_Dolan 3 November (97) Valdas_Adamkus 8 November (97) Darleane_C._Hoffman 24 November (97) Tsung-Dao_Lee 30 November (97) Andrew_Schally 13 December (97) George_Rhoden Dead: 2023 Arno J. Mayer 19 June - 18 December 2023 (97) Juliu W. Becton Jr. 29 June - 28 November 2023 (97) Tony Bennett 3 August - 21 July 2023 (96) Max Morath 1 October - 19 June 2023 (96) Bob Richards 30 February - 26 February 2023 (97) Paul Berg 30 June - 15 February 2023 (96) 2022 Jiang Zemin 17 August - 30 November 2022 (96) Robert Clary 28 June - 16 November 2022 (96) Irene Papas 3 September - 14 September 2022 (96) Elizabeth II 21 April - 8 September 2022 (96) Frederick Buechner 11 July - 15 August 2022 (96) Hanae Mori 8 January - 11 August 2022 (96) Ben Roy Mottelson 9 July - 13 May 2022 (95) Joseph Horovitz 26 May - 9 February 2022 (95) Carleton Carpenter 10 July - 31 January 2022 (95) 2021 Fred Cone 21 June - 31 December 2021 (95) Robert Bly 23 December - 21 November 2021 (94) Betty Lynn 29 August - 16 October 2021 (95) Carlisle Floyd 11 June - 30 September 2021 (95) Jane Withers 12 April - 7 August 2021 (95) Desmond Davis 24 May - 3 July 2021 (95) Cloris Leachman 30 April - 27 January 2021 (94) 2020 Alison Lurie 3 September - 3 December 2020 (94) Valéry Giscard d'Estaing 2 February - 2 December 2020 (94) Jan Morris 2 October - 20 November 2020 (94) Masatoshi Koshiba 19 September - 12 November 2020 (94) Allan Rich 8 February - 22 August 2020 (94) Hans-Jochen Vogel 3 February - 26 July 2020 (94) Pauline Pirok 18 October - 25 July 2020 (93) Aubrey Burl 24 September - 8 April 2020 (93) Herb Stempel 19 December - 7 April 2020 (93) James Lipton 19 September - 2 March 2020 (93) Bill Smith 22 September - 29 February 2020 (93) Sonja Ziemann 8 February - 18 February 2020 (94) 2019 Hans Rausing 25 March - 30 August 2019 (93) Nuon Chea 7 July - 4 August 2019 (93) Beji Caid Essebsi 29 November - 26 July 2019 (92) Cesar Pelli 12 October - 19 July 2019 (92) Claus von Bülow 11 August - 25 May 2019 (92) Charles Van Doren 12 February - 9 April 2019 (93) Don Newcombe 14 June - 19 February 2019 (92) John Dingell 8 July - 8 February 2019 (92) Julie Adams 17 October - 3 February 2019 (92) 2018 Aaron Klug 11 August - 20 November 2018 (92) Richard DeVos 4 March - 6 September 2018 (92) Gloria Jean 14 April - 31 August 2018 (92) Miyoko Aso 7 April - 25 August 2018 (92) Charlotte Rae 22 April - 5 August 2018 (92) Hans Gunter Winkler 24 July - 9 July 2018 (91) Gillian Lynne 20 February - 1 July 2018 (92) Miguel Obando y Bravo 2 February - 3 June 2018 (92) Ally Ann McLerie 1 December - 21 May 2018 (91) Effrain Rios Montt 16 June - 1 April 2018 (91) Peter George 5 June - 20 March 2018 (91) Katie Boyle 29 May - 20 March 2018 (91) Hannah Hauxwell 1 August - 31 January 2018 (91) Ingvar Kamprad 30 March - 27 January 2018 (91) Paul Bocuse 11 February - 20 January 2018 (91) 2017 Doreen Keogh 5 February - 31 December 2017 (91) Earle Hyman 11 October - 19 November 2017 (91) Abdur Rahman Biswas 91 September - 3 November 2017 (91) Hugh Hefner 9 April - 27 September 2017 (91) George Englund 22 June - 14 September 2017 (91) Harry Dean Stanton 14 July - 15 September 2017 (91) Richard Anderson 8 August - 31 August 2017 (91) Jerry Lewis 16 March - 20 August 2017 (91) David Watmough - 17 August - 4 August 2017 (90) Michael Bond 13 January - 27 June 2017 (91) Eugene Gendlin 25 December - 01 May 2017 (90) Don Gordon 13 November - 24 April 2017 (90) Don Rickles 8 May - 6 April 2017 (90) Chuck Berry 18 October - 18 March 2017 (90) Thomas Starzl 11 March - 04 March 2017 (90) Buddy Greco 14 August - 10 January 2017 (90) John Berger 5 November - 2 January 2017 (90) 2016 - since July Mark Taimanov 7 February - 28 November 2016 (90) Fritz Weaver 19 January - 26 November 2016 (90) Fidel Castro 13 August - 25 November 2016 (90) Al Brodax 14 February - 24 November 2016 (90) Konstantinos Stephanopoulos 15 August - 20 November 2016 (90) Jean Alexander 24 February - 14 October 2016 (90) Dario Fo 24 March - 13 October 2016 (90) Andrzej Wajda 6 March - 9 October 2016 (90) Ali Javan 26 December - 12 September 2016 (89) Tim LaHaye 27 April - 25 July 2016 (90) Notable people who were born 1926 and died before the list was made: George Martin - 2016 (90) Harper Lee - 2016 (89) Leslie Nielsen - 2010 (84) Patricia Neal - 2010 (84) Miles Davis - 1991 (65) John Coltrane - 1967 (40) Marilyn Monroe - 1962 (36)
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    Class Of 1926

    The plot is twisting these few days. It seems that Attenborough, Brooks, Jewison and Corman are killing off the competition. Strange times.
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    The Godfather

    There was a post on Facebook with old actors and Abe was there so I checked on him and had a hunch but ignored it like usual...and guess what...he dropped the next morning....this is the second time i did that this year... (first with Bowie)...so i checked the survivors/the cast of The Godfather movie (the first one). The list is short. Most of the cast died relatively "young". The surviving cast: Al Pacino - 1940 James Caan - 1940 - 2022 Robert Duvall - 1931 Diane Keaton - 1946 Talia Shire - 1946 Morgana King 1930 - 2018 Simonetta Stefanelli - 1954 Francis Ford Coppola - 1939 2#: Robert De Niro - 1943 3#: Andy Garcia - 1956 George Hamilton - 1939 Joe Mantegna - 1947 the rest are dead or Godfather was the only role so they're irrelevant..... So who do you think is going to join Abe next? My guess is Duvall or Coppola Updated the list a bit*
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    Diana Ross

    An alcoholic and drug addict, with almost 72 we better watch out for this one, together with Elton John, Iggy Pop, Patti Smith, Mick Jagger and the rest of the junkie crew, I'm 95% sure none of them will reach 8.0 talking about booze....a very VERY interesting list....http://www.celebritygossip.com/12-celebrities-you-didnt-know-were-alcohol-addicts/ 2 dead, 1 hanging on a straw and the rest unstable.....alcoholism is a good sign for a thread, just sayin' ......depression is a nasty little demon
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