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Josef Fritzl, Thomas Mair, Anders Breivik, Ian Watkins, Ian Huntley, Rolf Harris, Dennis Nilsen... And what did Norman Tebbit do that was so bad? Did he do anything worse than what the IRA did in the 80s?

Stick him back on for 2017!

Can't believe she's still alive. Surely 2017 will be her year. Turning 100 years old and all that.

Aye, doubtless a few Deathracers share your interest. It's definitely happened a while back that the world's oldest person has lost the title without having to die, but - surely - she's nailed on to lose it in the traditional way and generate world wide news in doing so. The former would only happen through a person being discovered that is older than them? In that case, they were never actually the world's oldest person in the first place.

I hope Emma Morano sees 2017 at the very least, and becomes 5th oldest person of all time.

Jesus, I hadn't heard this until I saw it on Wikipedia. This has been a bad day for me. First John Glenn, now Greg Lake. It's been a bad year! Tell me about it So, wtihout boring you too much - I spend most of one year compiling the opening radio show for the new on and that show is our "List of the Lost" wherein we feature those who died the previous year. Let's just say the revisions on the running order as we put the script together have been taxing and we've already negotiated a longer show than is usually scheduled. Next prob - is ELP a fitting tribute to E and L or do we throw in Greg in his King Crimson pomp instead (which I'm up for doing by way of playing Cadence and Cascade) Gordon Haskell does the vocals on Cadence and Cascade, not Greg Lake. Oh, right - shame, I love that song; Haskell's not likely to cark it soon is he? Oh aye, and we'll mebbe play "I Talk to the Wind" It's a nice song. I have absolutely no idea whether Haskell is likely to die soon or not.

Jesus, I hadn't heard this until I saw it on Wikipedia. This has been a bad day for me. First John Glenn, now Greg Lake. It's been a bad year! Tell me about it So, wtihout boring you too much - I spend most of one year compiling the opening radio show for the new on and that show is our "List of the Lost" wherein we feature those who died the previous year. Let's just say the revisions on the running order as we put the script together have been taxing and we've already negotiated a longer show than is usually scheduled. Next prob - is ELP a fitting tribute to E and L or do we throw in Greg in his King Crimson pomp instead (which I'm up for doing by way of playing Cadence and Cascade) Gordon Haskell does the vocals on Cadence and Cascade, not Greg Lake.

Jesus, I hadn't heard this until I saw it on Wikipedia. This has been a bad day for me. First John Glenn, now Greg Lake. It's been a bad year!

Far, far too many to name. I'd be here all day if I was to list all the famous people that died in 2016 that were missed on the DeathList. Of course, not all of those were obvious picks but some certainly were.

A few things to say here... Having met him personally and seen him in concert twice, once with his own band and once with Asia, I can tell you that Carl Palmer is a very fit man for his age. I fully expect him to see the 2030s. If only I'd known that Lake was ill, I'd have been talking about him as well as talking about Wetton. But that's what makes all the difference - if we deadpoolers know that a person is ill, then we can make reasonable predictions. But if they keep it quiet, we're usually none the wiser unless someone makes some very educated guesswork. Do you think if people knew how ill David Bowie was last December, he'd have been left off the 2016 list? Lake and Wetton are really very very similar guys in so many ways. Palmer is safe. He's a fit and healthy man. I am confident he'll be around for many years yet. Actually, I had long suspected that Greg Lake might be on the way out sometime. I did know that he was a fat guy in his later years, much like what Wetton was before all the weight dropped off him.

Just you, this thread'll outlive him by the looks of it and might become the unofficial thread for some other endangered progger before too long. They're old, they smoked like chimneys (or a lot of them did) and some of them did other serious drugs. Well there's a strong focus on Wetton on this thread at the moment for understandable reasons, but I've also discussed the likes of Keith Emerson and Chris Squire (who died before this thread was created) in this thread. I don't think prog rock was particularly bad for the use of hard drugs (especially heroin and cocaine) but no doubt many of them dabbled in psychedelics like LSD, mushrooms and of course wacky baccy. Wetton was also a heavy drinker and there are even rumours that he was once a heroin addict. Especially in the 70s he went through being a member of a ton of different bands from that era, and kept either leaving those bands or being expelled - surely a sign of instability, and quite possibly drug or drink related. Actually, when I created this thread last year there was a big hoo hah over whether this thread should have the right to exist at all. Some users were annoyed that I'd created a thread with significant overlap with the Pink Floyd / Piper at the Gates of Heaven thread. I then went on to question why, if that thread was truly representative of deaths in progressive rock, Chris Squire's death that year was not mentioned at all in that thread. Clearly a new thread was needed. Anyway, it's not that important whether we have two threads with similar themes - I'm sure there are far more important things in both the world and in our own personal lives - I'm sure there are more important things in mine!

There is a third possibility: he remains alive but is too ill to tour. We'll see what happens!

I don't get it - Wetton has looked really ill recently with metastatic cancer and sepsis, and yet he expects he might be able to make a full recovery? How can he be expecting to go on tour in 2017 given how ill he has been? One thing's for sure - he may be quite seriously ill, but you can't deny that he's a fighter... Best of luck to him in making that full recovery - he will certainly need it! I certainly wouldn't write him off yet. He may be expecting to recover, but we don't know for sure. He's certainly a fighter, but I don't think he'll actually fully recover. There has already been a ton of damage done. Even if he did fully recover (say in the Wilko Johnson fashion), he would always be one for DeathList to keep an eye on at any rate. But what I don't understand is how he can be looking as ill as he has looked - practically looking at death's door - and yet feels as though he's healthy enough to tour in 2017? Many of his fans on Twitter expressed the same concerns - namely, they thought that he would not be healthy enough to go on tour. I can't work it out. Surely he wouldn't agree to go ahead with the tour if he didn't feel that he was on the mend? It is a small US tour in spring 2017, mind, but that's still a lot for someone battling cancer and sepsis to have to deal with. How would he manage to stand up on stage for two hours at a time and sing songs and play bass if he's as ill as he is?

I just might have spoken too soon ... http://preview.tinyurl.com/hvey3t8 I don't get it - Wetton has looked really ill recently with metastatic cancer and sepsis, and yet he expects he might be able to make a full recovery? How can he be expecting to go on tour in 2017 given how ill he has been? One thing's for sure - he may be quite seriously ill, but you can't deny that he's a fighter... Best of luck to him in making that full recovery - he will certainly need it!

Sir Ken Morrison, former chairman of Morrisons supermarkets, is 86 in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Morrison Doubtless would be obitable.

Well that's certainly an interesting theory! He is old, at 70, to be starting something as big as becoming POTUS. And, of course, Trump is infamous for his highly politically incorrect comments that have offended various groups of people. It reminds me of what The Guardian was saying about Richard Dawkins a couple of years ago and some of his Twitter comments. I was reading something in that paper (or some similar publication) that stated that the older a person gets, the more outlandish their views are likely to become and they're less likely to be ashamed of making those views public: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/30/richard-dawkins-what-on-earth-happened-to-you Similarly, author John Derbyshire (b. 1945) made headlines for racially offensive comments in 2012 when suffering from cancer: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/08/john-derbyshire-fired-article-african-americans And speaking of right-winger John Derbyshire, has his name ever been mentioned on this site before?

Interesting reading the bios of those individuals - some of them I didn't even know who they actually were at all. Many would also make good picks for the 2017 main list and people's individual deadpool lists for the year. Also, who's Sara Coward? Couldn't find her in Wikipedia at all

No one's mentioned the Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross scandal yet? Those two acted like a pair of utter pricks towards Sachs back in 2008...

I had to check Wikipedia for a bio on Heenan as I didn't actually know who he was! He's a genius, sadly unable to do regular TV since his first bout of throat cancer fifteen years ago. If you look at any photos of him he looks like a sneeze would see for him, but seemingly underneath it there's sterner stuff. Yer man Wetton seems ill, but you'd think some sort of press would be covering it by now. Plenty of music websites have covered his illness, but there hasn't been a lot of mention of it in the bigger press. I would definitely expect him to obit without question in UK mainstream news. The thing is, could you see him alive on January 1st 2018? I certainly couldn't at the rate he's going. I might be shooting myself in the foot by saying this, but Wetton is billed to appear at Cruise to the Edge festival in the US in February: Whether he will actually appear though, is another question altogether. I don't think he will be healthy enough to.

He has terminal cancer, its probable ( and, unfortunately, I know from personal experience ) that there will be a stage where he will not be able to eat solids and, eventually, he will not be able to swallow even a drink through a straw.Any chemo will be given to make him more comfortable and limit the pain he is or will be in, it wont be to rid him of cancer. Is it certain that he is actually having chemo or is he actually having Radiotherapy? Definitely having chemo.Yeah he is not going to last more than a few months.Roll on 2017! If he makes the start line. That's always the worry isn't it?

For comparison, here's a photo of Wetton from September, before his sepsis was announced: I had to check Wikipedia for a bio on Heenan as I didn't actually know who he was!

I'd be astounded to see Wetton make 2018 at this stage. There's close to thirty years age difference between Sallis and Wetton, though. What you mean?Peter Sallis isnt thin and gaunt that I have seen.Wetton looks at deaths door.Reckon he is marrying before it is too late like Gill and Banks. Pretty much. If Wetton sees 2017, he's pretty much a lock. Think he's more of a Sam Simon or a Martin Crowe type case than a Wilko Johnson...

After having picked Wetton for the AVALP, I have just learned that he got married yesterday. Look on his Twitter feed. Congratulations to him and his wife, but the one thing I notice from the picture is how deathly thin he looks: It is particularly noticeable that he looks very thin, considering that up until recently he was quite a fat guy - compare that with this photo from 2014, where he appears centre stage at the front: Practically unrecognisable as being the same person, and that's within the space of two and a half years. In photos from the 2000s, Wetton looks like a big fat guy. In 2014 he looks to have shed a little bit of that weight but since his cancer he looks to have dropped huge amounts of weight. What I suspect is that Wetton knows that he is terminally ill and probably has a matter of months left to live, and is tying the knot with his wife while he has the chance to do so.

You're 100% right! I'll go for John Wetton. Think his chances of seeing 2017 are reasonably good but by no means certain...

Another one of these really obese cases, also hailing from Mexico: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3973316/World-s-fattest-man-32-discovered-15-stone-heavier-thought-weighs-near-record-breaking-92-stone-9lbs.html?ITO=1490 Must be something in their culture. Or a liking for sugary drinks and fast food. What is strange now is that once upon a time the developed countries had the fattest people, but now it's increasingly some of the developing countries (Mexico, Egypt, etc) that are overtaking even the USA and UK for fat people...