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Should be Gilly for July Gilly who? Remarkably (or not as the case may be, as I think it's all part of the increasingly dull act), I think Yvonne is referring to Gilly Coman, the obscure actress who only ever had one notable part in a long-gone sitcom. Well that seals it then. Lardy has failed to rip somebodys head off and shown restraint without a hint of sarcasm. ...and not one mention of a bodily function. This forum really is now just a dull pile of old chod. Oh, believe me, I had written something much more insulting about dull thick people, but then I felt a bit mean......crap, I really am mellowing in my old age. But I've had four shits today, if that makes you feel any better? Yes, its helped a tad. Ever done one in a "Mr Whippy" style? Hover over the seat, gyrate your hips and, if you managed to produce a log, it would end up looking very similar to a 99 Ice cream. Now that would have been impressive!!!

Died about one year ago...

Should be Gilly for July Gilly who? Remarkably (or not as the case may be, as I think it's all part of the increasingly dull act), I think Yvonne is referring to Gilly Coman, the obscure actress who only ever had one notable part in a long-gone sitcom. Well that seals it then. Lardy has failed to rip somebodys head off and shown restraint without a hint of sarcasm. ...and not one mention of a bodily function. This forum really is now just a dull pile of old chod.

I'm going to be a (far too young) step-great uncle in September. (Making my sister a step-grandmother aged 27). My step-niece's grandfather is my step-nephew's father. Work that one out if you can. Easy. You are all inbred. Very funny Norfolk Knackers, at least I don't wash myself with a rag on a stick Actually, they're my step-folk - not blood related - nothing to do with me guv, no sirree! Now, where's my banjo......... Now thats a phrase I havent heard before

I'm going to be a (far too young) step-great uncle in September. (Making my sister a step-grandmother aged 27). My step-niece's grandfather is my step-nephew's father. Work that one out if you can. Easy. You are all inbred.

So very true HCW. May I add the fuckers who cough away, obviously trying to bring up a dockers omlette, while you are tucking into your Big Mac or summat. Id cut their effing throats.

He isn't, but I was beginning to think you were Think or hoped? That voodoo doll didnt work, did it. Bastard!!

The teacher sits infront of her class and, one by one, she asks the Children what their parents do for a living. "Johnny, what does your daddy do for a living?" "Well" says Johnny "Daddy goes out every night to sell his arse to strangers and he lets them cum in his mouth for a fiver." The teacher is horrified! Later on, she takes Johnny to one side. "Johnny, does your Daddy REALLY do those things for a living?" " Oh No!" says Johnny, "He actually plays for England, but im fucked if im going to admit that to anyone!"

Is he dead yet?

I totally understand this Don't come to Texas. You'll be miserable. Dont come to Norfolk. You'll fucking top yourself.

Im not one to go licking the fecal matter from the Brazillian arsehole, unlike most commentators and pundits, the wankers! The Argies will win it, fuck, even "Fatty boy" Maradonna is growing on me.

Most of the time it is. But I am concerned about the power of the ladies forum. What if its members unleash hell? We'll probably never notice. regards, Hein Indeed, it's had less than 20 posts all year, hardly a hotbed of intrigue and gossip. ...a bit like the rest of the forum, then.

I believe we can. We know enough about the evolution of our planet to know that it has evolved from a reducing atmosphere to one that is oxygen rich and able to support aerobic life. Perhaps biomimetics is the answer, can we try to repeat history? Increase photosynthesis and not only do we reduce CO2 but we can harvest solar energy and obtain biofuels or try to exploit the secondary effect, the splitting of water (hydrogen storage is one of the major problems of switching to hydrogen fuel cells). Can we recreate nature's blueprint artifically or do we have to dedicate more surface area to plants and algae, reversing man's trend to deforest great swathes of countryside. I find it's pretty arrogant of us to criticise the likes of Brazil and Indonesia for doing something the Europeans did long ago. This is something to address by way of statistics, which neither of us can do with Google alone. I do not know how many scientists are for and how many are against, perhaps you are more aware of this. I would hazard a bet that although there may be plenty of evidence to counter the belief as you state, there could be an equal or perhaps a more substantially larger body of evidence that anthropological effects have altered the balance more than in previous climate change episodes. A hydrogen fuel cell based car produces just water as a byproduct (incidently this is also a greenhouse gas), no CO2, Nox, SOx or particulate matter but as we are all well aware it needs optimising. We need a stop gap as our reserves are finite. Biofuels (from algae as opposed to controversial crops) could well be that stop gap. As the fuels are combusted CO2 is released which can be reassimulated by living biomass to produce more biofuel. All the while buying more time for a better way to harvest solar energy to be developed. Electricity generated by wind, tides, solar panels etc. have minimal effect on the environment, and not everyone likes travelling on public transport. I cannot remember who it was but there is one DL member who made a massive rant about public transport (apart from Windsor). We have become accustomed to our own private door to door service, so if we are happy to pay the price for this I don't see how a government could remove this liberty from us. Ironically China did. I think this is more a case of human condition, as in we believe what we want to and it is difficult to change someone's beliefs without concrete evidence. You'd be hard pressed to convert an athiest to a religion even though God(s) may exist. You want to believe that GW isn't a problem hence most of your posts in this thread bring up the fact some people say it isn't a problem and that you are swayed to their camp. I believe that it is a problem and thus have the instinct to fall on the otherside of the divide. Neither of us have concrete evidence. We publish papers about the knowledge we have acquired and yes people can be proved wrong. It's exactly as Hein said, we have to keep updating the model. Things can be proved wrong not right but in the mean time a debate has to have more than one side for progress. You have to keep asking why. The sea defences would have to be pretty high if the predictions are to believed. As for domestic energy efficiency, there are far more things that have been introduced, better boilers, cavity insulation, hybrid cars, recycling (certain uk councils aren't as hot on that as some European counterparts I believe), campaigns to turn your heating down a few degrees, double glazing etc. I thought I had used the conditional tense as much as possible in my post, ladened with words like I believe and IMHO. It was intended as a viewpoint piece. If it didn't come across that way then I am sorry for that but not for its content. I stand by my feeling however that science often gets derided, I also stand by my feeling that I think this site has lost a bit of "je ne sais quoi" and a bit of humour. That's my problem. It is after all a site to report celebrity deaths, something which isn't really in my list of interests. I guess at the moment it is doing exactly what it says on the tin and not a lot else. Monkey, I was more angry with the way you were dismissive, if not rude, about what I have written. Hey, you are the Scientist, im just an Engineer, you say CO2, I say nanofarads...lets call the whole thing off, or summat. As ive said before, you are one of the most expressive and articulate of posters here and I enjoy reading what you have to say, whether I always agree with its content or not. If you take another look at the Irate visitors thread, you will see that I actually concour with your take on the state of the forum, I too am not very much into death which is why this thread is the breath of fresh air in a forum of staleness. There may never be a consensus as to what is right or wrong but I actually enjoy reading opinions and throwing my thru'penny-ha'penny into it, even if I do talk shite. Just dont be too judgemental, eh? Oh, I was aware of the China edict, I wasnt actually talking of using that particular social model, finding dead babies in the streets isnt really the way to go.... Oh, one more thing, it was me who did the Public transport rant!! No, I dont want to give up my car, the point I was aiming for was whether a Government was REALLY serious about reducing emissions it would consider stringent methods in curtailing our car usage. I think, from now on, I shall shut the fuck up and be more of a reader.......

A lot of sanctimonious, pious posts snipped, yeah we all know what you do for a living, blah, blah, blah... There's a lot more where that came from but I think you've heard enough for now. Scientists, we are damned if we do and damned if we don't. As somebody as intelligent as you obviously are, why cant you read? I have never stated that Global warming was or was not a reality. I have merely stated that there is a whole plethora of scientific opinion out there that believes that we, the human race is either not or only partially responsible for the changes that are taking place. Why does your opinion carry more weight than those that have a different opinion to yourselves? Why are the Scientists who have ventured an opposing view so obviously wrong? Yeah, it is right that we all try and do something, even if it ends up in vain. How about rebuilding our sea defences? Building a network of canals around flood vunerable towns? Despite all the doom and gloom fuck all has been done, nothing practical except for indroducing energy efficient light bulbs that are shit. But enough of my unbelievable shite. Who the fuck do you think you are to assume the site is full of bollocks ? You may not like my opinions but at least have the fucking respect to take them on board and, if you can be arsed to respond, do it with reason and not with distain. DDT may well have a completeley opposite view to mine but at least I respect what he has to say. You? Well I had the highest of respect for you, now, clearly, I find that I lack the acumen, if not education, to put points across that are at complete odds with a brilliant mind like yours. Im clearly not worthy, am I.

Shall I tell you something CA? Your mother would have had the same level of care here as she had there and it wouldnt have cost her a penny! As much as our healthcare system gets knocked, our levels of care are as high as anywhere else, our nursing staff sought after around the world and we have specialist hospitals that, despite having to fight tooth and nail for funding, can offer unrivaled care. Yes we get it wrong here but it happens everywhere else too, im sure the Gibb brothers would happily have wished their brothers emergency treatment had taken place in the UK as opposed to Florida ( was it?) My dad had a quadrouple heart bypass op in 2006 and the care he received was outstanding, all at a London hospital that was probably bulit over a century ago and staffed with dedicated nurses and professional Cariologists. All those people could work anywhere else in the World for a damn sight more money but choose to ply their trade in an inefficient decrepid system that will forever lurch from one year to the next. When all is said and done, our system is probably the best of all compromises, far from perfect but everybody gets treated. I dont think there really is a better working model out there. PS: My sister is a Nurse so I admit to being a bit biased.......just a bit.

That's a fine choice of book, Godot. I read it last summer when I was searching for and failing to find answers about our possible fate. I remember the last chapter - What Must Be Done - very well, but I still came away from reading it feeling that Peter Ward is just wrong and that we don't have it in us at all to resolve the difficulties we have created. He seemed to have compete faith in mankind's ability to ultimately become collectively more constructive than destructive and I fear he was fundamentally mistaken on that particular point. I've decided I'm more of a Gaia man overall. Top rant LFN , hope you're feeling better now. You are wrong about global warming and the scientific community is right. They are not arrogant, they are trying, in vain, to save us. We are in very serious trouble and I am convinced that the planet in, say, fifty years will be a far, far worse place to live in than it is today and even then people (if there are any left) will refuse to take responsibility for the predicament in which we find ourselves. Something terrible is going to happen to us all and it is going to happen sooner rather than later. I'm off out to watch "The Road" one more time... DDT, remember that scene in The Poseidon Adventure? Its the one where the ship has been overturned and Gene Hackman is desperately trying to round up the passengers, imploring them that they should follow him up to the hull of the ship to await rescue. Through all this, he tries to get the Ships Purser to join in and round people up, purely on the basis that said purser is the only "Authority" left alive on the ship. Unfortunately, dear Mr Purser tell Hackman to f**k off and tells the passengers not to listen to him and instead stay where they are till help arrives. Now, us sitting at home watching the film are way ahead of whats going on, we know that Hackman is right but why arent the people listening to him? Well Hackman is merely a maverick Priest and the Ships Purser is the one wearing the uniform, knows the ship inside out and is the only person on there that can command some degree of authority. The fact that he is an arrogant arsehole and totally wrong is neither here nor there! DDT, Im not using that parable to belittle your belief and views on the subject, its pretty much understood that your concerns do have some validity. The problem I have is your blinding faith in science. Off the top of my head, as I type this im thinking Thalidomide, created in a lab by scientists, not researched enough, not tested enough and 50 years later its still blighting lives. Science has done wonders for our world, wonders for our lives but it isnt the be all and end all, its not the last word and they dont know everything. Granted, if there was a consensus across the WHOLE Scientific community that Global warming was man made, slow downable, if not reversable and that we all had to eat lentils and live sea grass houses, then I would take that view to heart. The problem is it IS NOT agreed across the Scientific community. It took a few seconds to find this why hasnt anybody else? Why hasnt anybody asked the pertinent questions as to why Scientists deliberately manipulated climate change data? Questions, questions, DDT. The biggest question is why should I trust the Scientists who say its all true and not the Scientists that have said that it isnt? As far as im aware, the ones that argue against havent manipulated anything but those, that do argue for, have. Common sense and trust would have you running a million miles from the liars, yet people still trust them like those saps trusted the Ships purser. Mind you Gordon Brown, no less, fully endorses this whole charabanc of bollocks.....which says it all really. Each to their own, I suppose but I tell you something, when I drop a V8 gass guzzling engine into my 31 year old car later this year, i wont feel at all guilty as I will be just recyclying, reusing and saving Dawn French the Whale....... I say make hay while the sun shines coz a meteor the size of Arkansas will probably hit us sooner than we'd like and wipe us all out in one go anyway. Sod Globule Wanking, thats what I say.

I woke up this morning and went to the TV Guide channel so I could find out what time it was. Somehow I came across Tiger Woods reading a written apology. It sounded very rehearsed, very artificial. I'm not saying that it wasn't his voice, but it's as if he hired somebody to write it with him. .......and what has his "Sex addiction" got to do with you, or me or anybody else outside of his family and sponsors? He knocks a ball around a course, does it better than 99% of all other Golfers and earns a fortune doing it. The end.

Do you know what really pisses me off? The sheer, unadulterated arrogance of the Scientific community who have sold certain sections of the Political movement the absolute horseshit argument that we can change the Earths climate. Planet Earth, over 4 billion years old ( some have said its much older) has seen Climate change so utterly catastrophic it would make the Haiti Earthquake seem like a bit of a kerfuffle. We are not even close to being the longest surviving species on this Planet and we probably arent even the most intelligent to have existed YET we have all the answers. A multi trillion pound Worldwide industry in "Green" services and technology has sprouted up over the last 10 years and, despite plenty of evidence countering the belief that the Human race is the sole archeitect of its doom, we continue to be royally fucked up the arse with punitive taxation and legislation on the pretext that we can "Save the planet". A classic piece of shite is the idea that we will all be driving hydrogen/Electric cars in years to come. Why? Isnt the green ethos about saving energy per se? Why have roads festooned with cars that require electricity to run, which still has a cost to the environment however its generated, when you could have Electric buses, carrying up to 50 odd passengers per vehicle thus eliminating the need for 20 odd cars to be manufactured and run. Is that not a "greener" solution? Of course, its got fuck all to do with being green but everything to do with the high levels of tax revenue extracted from the sitting ducks who own cars and the fact that without a motor industry all those millions of workers in car plants world wide would have to be retrained in how to make ecologically sustainable waistcoats out of Potato peel..........or summat. If we are doomed, and I think we will be at some point in the future, it will be soley down to overpopulation. One billion Chinese probably breathe out at least 3 billion litres of, diluted, carbon dioxide every couple of seconds. Surely that is fucking up the Planet more than sporradically placed factories, cars, aircraft and the like. I really dont understand why, IF, there is so much emphasis on Global warming being man made, no Government has had the gonads to legislate as to how many children people can have ( it may stop those parasitic baby machines in the process...)so that the stabilizing, if not the slow and gradual reduction of the worlds population will do more to "Save the Planet" than any other hair brained scheme doled out to the populace. Rant over.

Im giving up trying to fathom out a sour faced old bint. PS: Handy, can you PM me some of your swear words.....

Well, there have been violent clashes between the police and Southampton supporters after their defeat to P********h today. Anybody that can find us a piccy of said riot with Monoclinic leading the charge from the front, resplendant in brown Dr Martens, let us know...

The last time we had 12.5 inches in Norfolk is when I accidentally popped out of my shorts.... Boom, Boom. Four times. No Honez, old chap, it was seven On the eighth occassion I was finally arrested for indecent exposure

Winny, it has been of great concern to me that you have been posting ever more infrequently on this thread. Now buck your ideas up man!! PS: I hope things work out for you. Best of luck.

The last time we had 12.5 inches in Norfolk is when I accidentally popped out of my shorts.... Boom, Boom.

I personally think it's the cantankerous attitude of some (see the below exchange to a new poster from an old poster) which has silenced many. If a thread is made, there are those who launch attacks against both it and the poster. The same happens withing many threads when a person makes a post~~and I do not mean the comments which are made when a poster makes an error {as I did when sugggesting Michael Parks and then said Tom Laughlin was dead~~the response I received on that, although it may have been intended elsewise, was not perceived by me that way}. . It has led to a mass exodus of several posters who see no reason to post here. I had 4 full on attacks, and I have to be honest, it leaves me with little desire to stay around here or bother posting, knowing that the la-di-das are going to take another swipe. So as where death and the discussion of ailing and aging persons has not its sting lost, the desire to enter new information here, has, for me at least, has indeed ebbed. Just an idea, like. Do we need a thread called: 'Adoring visitors rant here if you must' Hmmm, mebbe not, eh? Cantankerous attitude or exasperation? Somebody puts their first introductory post, stating that they have an interest in "blah de blah" and they go and stick it on this topic instead of putting on the "New here..." one. What does that say about them? Cant be arsed to read? Too thick to know? Who knows? Realistically, they will contribute very little apart from the inane....and there are enough of the inane here to last a lifetime. Ive never seen myself as a snob and ive never bemoaned the lack of "quality posting" primarily because im as guilty as anybody of posting shite BUT this place, at this present time, is utter pants. There is no banter, nobody can be arsed to trade blows, insults, innuendo, zilch, nichts, zero fuck all. There is a serious lack of edge, people are posting under different aliases and some of the new blood ( not all ) could make Mogadon obsolete, let alone insomnia. Many of the posters, whose absence you lament, have probably buggered off for those very reasons and not because we (me) are not being Dave Nice of Niceville. Any twit can look at the Obituary columns and spoon feed the forum a daily diet of the latest nobody/vaguely well known who has passed away but if the forum relied on that as its sole purpose to exist, it would have died years ago. This place needs a kick up the arse. In summary, with respect BB, because I DO respect you, you are wide of the mark. PS:Do excuse the bad spelling, if there is any, I couldnt be arsed to.......

All well and good but what about the soul?