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@Octopus of Odstock Inconclusive but got a good feeling this is our man... James Taylor b. 7 Apr 1925 in Ashton-in-Makerfield, EN (Hugman's) Several Ancestry family trees such as this one have this fellow: James Taylor b. 7 Apr 1925 in Warrington, Lancashire, EN m. Margery Barker in 1946 in Leigh, Lancashire, EN d. 15 Aug 2000 in Port Elizabeth, Eastern Cape, South Africa Photo of him: No mention of being a footballer in the family trees. It has his occupation as apprentice and tool room fitter in 1939. His address at that time was 8 Grosvenor Gardens, Newton-in-Makerfield. Ashton-in-Makerfield and Warrington are 20 minutes away (8-9 miles) from each other. Looking at the birth index, there is nobody called James Taylor born in 1925 in Ashton. But the Warrington birth is listed there. So possibly wrong birthplace info on Hugman's?

Updated entry for the death of Mike Mitchell, who died on Friday, his 77th birthday. Two alive. I think. Nordby seems to have been elusive since he quit the band. @Phantom?

Yes. Newbs get wrapped round the knuckles for lazy ass style posting but I hold everyone to the same minimal standard. You and me have both been here for ~15 years and we know the drill and should set an example. That’s all.

Well at least you’re honest. And you’ve just made my point for me.

FB literally littered with posts about both Mitchell and Lewis before you posted them here. Why not just copy them over as and when you see them on there?

Source? How long you been posting for here now?

Thanks @edm88. I've submitted the deaths of Roux, Tate and Holmes with supporting evidence to IMDb for updates.

R. W. Davies (wiki), British historian on Soviet Russia, dead at 95 according to this tweet:

This is brilliant digging! I've updated the list on the previous page with the info. Thanks!

German-born Australian author Walter Kaufmann dead at 97.

Andrew Peacock, Liberal Leader of the Opposition (1983–1985, 1989–1990) dead at 82.

What’s interesting is it’s mainly old people complaining according to that article. Not happy that EastEnders was cancelled for the day. They’re lucky I’m not BBC Controller. It would be permanently axed and replaced with something that doesn’t burn brain cells.

Can’t find this record at all. Where did you find it out of interest?

I can see the record for this on Ancestry but it says Bonnie Belle Barker (not Barber) and Ollin DeLong. Definitely the same person?

Staying at my partner’s place. Probably not allowed but meh.

I’m away tonight OoO but I’ll take a look at some more names over the weekend. I’ve looked at your subsequent posts and for what it’s worth, I agree Lindsay and Sharpe are now closed cases. Gray I think we’re 75% of the way there – pretty sure someone wouldn’t have claimed he was a footballer on their family tree without first hand knowledge. As for Taylor, I’m not convinced. Could be a total coincidence. How can we go about confirming that one? Do you think there’s any football sources out there where you’d be able to unearth some confirmation on that first name?

Scrap this. Fletcher’s obits state Jack Kauflin predeceased him. Born 1925 according to Ancestry. Must’ve died between 2019 and 2021.

It already happened. Filmed Feb 2020. These are just tickets to watch the premiere of the video of it.

@Octopus of Odstock last one from me tonight. This one is a lead... a bit of a wildcard but definitely merits exploring. On Ancestry Family Trees, there's this: Jack Taylor b. 24 Jun 1924 Bradford, Yorkshire, England d. 6 Feb 1997 Montreal, Quebec, Canada (aged 72) Now, this is the only c. 1924 Taylor birth in Bradford I could find in the trees section that was either an exact or approx match. Problem though – Jack, not John. Now on the face of things, this would look like we've nailed him down, but I checked the birth index and the above individual was actually born in 1924 as "Jack Taylor" (rare for those days as Jack was almost always exclusively a nickname, not a birth name). Still worth considering though – did his name get bastardised down the line in League records, books etc somewhere? I can't find any old newspaper clippings about the 46-47 Bradford City team that mentions a Taylor. Is it possible someone put 2 and 2 together and got 5 i.e. saw "Jack" and just assumed he was actually "John"? Now, here's a photo of him (poor quality, sorry) after he emigrated to Canada. If you could pull out an old Bradford City pic of that specific team (again, easier said than done) then you may be able to rule this lead out or verify it that way. I imagine pictures of these guys are pretty scarce?

@Octopus of Odstock Another one here. Frederick A. Sharpe b. Jan 1924 Norwich, Norfolk, England m. Emily M. Watts in Apr 1944 Hull, Yorkshire, England d. 2020 Hull, Yorkshire, England (aged 95–96) This time, no mention of being a footballer in the family tree, but likely our guy. Worth contacting Wrexham F.C.? Surely they would have heard something? This could be verified by the GRO (as his middle name will appear there) when they finally bother to put all the 2020 records up! When that will be, I don't know. I last asked them 6 months ago and they said they didn't know when they'd be live! OR... there's the Probates. Now there is a record in there for 2020 for a Frederick Arthur Sharpe, but some reason the probate itself was registered in Liverpool. It has a date of death of 9 Apr 2020. I'm not sure if the probate would hold the age or DOB? But if Hugman's wanted to, they could call the GRO and try and place an order of a 2020 death certificate by phone. I think you can do that even though they're not online at the moment?

@Octopus of Odstock, a rather bland family tree here has this: David D. Gray b. 1923 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 1983 Halifax, Yorkshire, England There's a comment bubble at the side which says "josie66mod Football: David Gray famously played for Bradford City FC in the 1950's." No other info provided but most likely accurate. Here's the problem in verifying it – the GRO Index doesn't have the 1983 records (d'oh!). It starts from 1984... and on FreeBMD, this record doesn't come up either, but that's likely because FreeBMD has incomplete records for the years missing on the GRO. In order to get the full date for Hugman's, they'd be best getting in touch with the registry office responsible for Halifax and request a copy of a certificate. That should hold a middle name, possibly a birth date/place, and will give a full date of death.

Some obits finally arriving as confirmation. The Wrap and Deadline. Was the oldest living person to have worked on the production crew of Star Trek. Not sure who that accolade now falls to now. Norman Lloyd is the oldest living Trekkie actor I believe.

Sad that Carl J. Shapiro, who died a few months ago aged 108, didn’t outlive Madoff in the end. Shapiro was one of Madoff’s biggest victims. Madoff stole millions from his family, much of it from their charity.

@Octopus of Odstock Made a start on the footballers (covered names down to 1922). Just one find thus far: David Lindsay Hugman's / Wiki says born 29 Jun 1922 in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland Several family trees on Ancestry, including this one here say born 29 Jun 1919 in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Other info given... Parents: John Lindsay and Martha McLachlan Married: Barbara Hunter Forrester on 1 Feb 1947 in Innerleithen, Peebleshire, Scotland Notes that he worked as a professional footballer in 1947! Later worked as a sales engineer Died: 10 Apr 1987 (aged 67) in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Address at time of death was 99 Burns Park, East Kilbride. Cause of death: myocardial infarction, renal failure, complications of surgery Looking at Scotland's People for verification.... There is a David Lindsay born in Cambuslang in 1919, and another born there in 1922. The one who died in East Kilbride in 1987 was aged 67 at the time, so the Family Tree on Ancestry is certainly consistent if nothing else. To prove beyond doubt that it is correct though, you'd likely have to place an order for one, if not several of the certificates above. The 1947 marriage certificate I imagine would list his profession as a footballer, along with giving you his correct age! --- Nothing on the others really. Some POSSIBLE leads: Jim Smith 1/1/1920 Bolton, EN There is a James Stanley Smith born Bolton, EN on 1/3/1920 who died in Bolton, EN c. Apr 1981. Could be him if 1/1/1920 is a mistake of 1/3/1920. You'd have to dig deeper and may be a complete waste of time as there were lots of people called James Smith born in Bolton around this period. Mike Kelly 30/11/1920 Dublin, IR There is a Michael Kelly born 1920 in Dublin who died in 1950 in Dublin, listed in family trees. No dates given but could be our guy. Wouldn't know where to start with the Irish records. I don't think they're readily available. Eric Hampson 11/11/1921 Hanley, Staffs, EN Not sure of his fate but was able to get full birth details as per the records. Above info definitely correct. His parents were Edwin and Eunice Hampson. Worth noting them in case any leads appear in the future. My hunch is on emigrated then died, or at a push... still alive?