themaninblack

Children in need of a good f-oh never mind...

So, could the various dead pool supremos clarify the issue? If he's breathing on 1 January and is subsequently sentenced to death and then (unlikely but possible) is executed within 2013...points or no points? The Deathrace would award for that. But, Hell, we'd award for fruit that's brushing the ground!

BBC4's 1977 TOTP reruns aren't working out too well - more drops than a Parkinson's Cricket XI . Brookes and Kershaw were 80s, thankfully Just as they were about to show the Bowie one...

Having seen at least at least two of these at close quarters in the past 12 months I would advise that Howe and Philips though both frail are likely to make it to 2014 though you never can tell. Jimmy Hill is reportedly in a care home now so I think he's a good pick sadly. Is Ian Holm even ill as he's not that old? Parkinson's apparently...

Well, thumbing through my ledger of possible picks, here's a selection of suitably deathlistesque candidates: Geoffrey Howe Cliff Michelmore Jimmy Hill Ian Holm Stephen Lewis (we've missed out on a couple of comedy/character actors) Richard Adams (Watership Down) Sid Caesar Leslie Phillips

I see the recently-departed (and already mentioned, yes I fucking know, before some twat points it out) John Clive was added to that site just four days before Dicky O. I remember him best as the camp tourist who had his would-be boyfriend nicked by Sally Geeson in Carry On Abroad... which probably says more about my film tastes than I ought to admit, considering he was also in The Italian Job, A Clockwork Orange and Yellow Submarine. You forgot this one Harry........ Twas good being young in the 70s. If I didn't know better I'd say that was Sylvester McCoy on the left of that group of robots...

Almost as good shape as he was in his final days at Everton...

Well one character actor that'll no longer get the call is Roger Hammond who has died aged 76. A classic "you know him when you see him" actor. I remember him best from the 'Red-headed League' episode of 'The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' in 1984. Not been a great year for character actors, what with John Clive, Geoffrey Hughes and James Grout biting the dust...

Apparently the accuser has recanted... It's all the rage these days, ducky!

Earl Ferrers has died That's a unique hit for Dead Commons...

Looks like Sir Cyril was partial to a bit of fiddling...

Talk about a missed opportunity Do you want to live in a world where Ringo Starr is the only surviving Beatle? He's the lesser of four evils. George Harrison? Evil?

Man About The House is currently being repeated on ITV3...

For some reason it's in the extra-curricular section...

The DG's gone... Seemed a bit of a berk anyway.

What I don't understand is why the BBC would suggest that a cabinet minister during the Thatcher years was a paedo with such confidence when they have an ex-Tory cabinet minister as the bloody chairman! Surely that would have been a consideration before filing the report?

Half-right, at least The way I remember it is: Firstly, Clive was always GR's man, from the original night at the Mandela till the day he died. He certainly suggested him, made sure he was written down and put on the list. (Actually, just about everyone written down on the original manuscript made the '87 list, except for a racehorse which had died earlier that day/week - why we were even suggesting dead horses does show how much booze had been consumed, I suppose). Anyway, we may have thought he was older than he really was, but I'm sure we soon found out the truth so it doesn't explain why he kept making the list. Which was because, despite our protests, GR had this certain thing about Dunny and, being a stubborn kind of fellow, always insisted he get added. In the end the rest of us grew to accept, even relish, his inevitable place on the list. And when the DL turned into a website under GR's benevolent dictatorship, Dunn's position became virtually unassailable. So you can see the History Of Clive was an organic process over time amongst friends, and no matter how many good 'replacements' there might be, its pre-internet nature means there can never be another in the same mould. I think some memorial would be nice though, and there are plenty of good ones on this thread, but just remember - GR doesn't really do democracy, and that's the way I like it. Uh-huh. Finally, though I doubt they'll stick around, it was nice to see Clive's passing bring a few old faces back (and maybe a few new ones). Yes, I can see that Dunn must have felt "right", the sort of chap you would have on a deathlist regardless of his age. It's ironic that Dunn's passing has occurred in this week of all weeks as both the USA and China choose their leaders. The two different approaches mirror that of the DeathList and the Derby Dead Pool. Deathlist is China: it's top 50 by committee with a benevolent head of state. DDP's shameless rip-off that is the Drop Forty (25% hit rate folks) is US democracy at work. I'm actually in the process of blowing the cobwebs of the DDP files and seeing who was the most popular picks in ages past. The records of team choices only really go back to 1998. I'm up to 2004 and the most popular picks were as follows: 1998: Pope John Paul II/ Queen Mother 1999: Pope John Paul II/ Queen Mother 2000: Ronald Reagan/ Queen Mother 2001: Queen Mother 2002: Ronald Reagan 2003: Ronald Reagan 2004: Ronald Reagan Ronnie was the king, but of course he couldn't last forever... This current debate about the "New" Dunn is rather like the machinations and debates about a new king/queen. Is it the successors of the original list (the origin story) or will be the most suitable "type" of pick which is where the debate it at currently. Of course it all boils down to what Grim will want and all this is enjoyable hot air as is the discussion about the other candidates on the list. I know as DDP host that if Thatcher drops dead on December 31st, apart from it being a pain the bollock adding all the substitutes, I will also know there will be another candidate who will hit the top spot by popular acclaim...

Half-right, at least The way I remember it is: Firstly, Clive was always GR's man, from the original night at the Mandela till the day he died. He certainly suggested him, made sure he was written down and put on the list. (Actually, just about everyone written down on the original manuscript made the '87 list, except for a racehorse which had died earlier that day/week - why we were even suggesting dead horses does show how much booze had been consumed, I suppose). Anyway, we may have thought he was older than he really was, but I'm sure we soon found out the truth so it doesn't explain why he kept making the list. Which was because, despite our protests, GR had this certain thing about Dunny and, being a stubborn kind of fellow, always insisted he get added. In the end the rest of us grew to accept, even relish, his inevitable place on the list. And when the DL turned into a website under GR's benevolent dictatorship, Dunn's position became virtually unassailable. So you can see the History Of Clive was an organic process over time amongst friends, and no matter how many good 'replacements' there might be, its pre-internet nature means there can never be another in the same mould. I think some memorial would be nice though, and there are plenty of good ones on this thread, but just remember - GR doesn't really do democracy, and that's the way I like it. Uh-huh. Finally, though I doubt they'll stick around, it was nice to see Clive's passing bring a few old faces back (and maybe a few new ones). Yes, I can see that Dunn must have felt "right", the sort of chap you would have on a deathlist regardless of his age. It's ironic that Dunn's passing has occurred in this week of all weeks as both the USA and China choose their leaders. The two different approaches mirror that of the DeathList and the Derby Dead Pool. Deathlist is China: it's top 50 by committee with a benevolent head of state. DDP's shameless rip-off that is the Drop Forty (25% hit rate folks) is US democracy at work. I'm actually in the process of blowing the cobwebs of the DDP files and seeing who was the most popular picks in ages past. The records of team choices only really go back to 1998. I'm up to 2004 and the most popular picks were as follows: 1998: Pope John Paul II/ Queen Mother 1999: Pope John Paul II/ Queen Mother 2000: Ronald Reagan/ Queen Mother 2001: Queen Mother 2002: Ronald Reagan 2003: Ronald Reagan 2004: Ronald Reagan Ronnie was the king, but of course he couldn't last forever...

2013 will be their last fling as a DDP theme team, then. Assuming the remaining lads go first, I may bag twenty of the lasses and go for all out bad-taste by naming my 20 "The Pussy Perishes Last" whaddya reckon? That's OK, but a warning that some of these old-timers don't seem to get the requisite British obit (see Violet Wood)... Aye, fair point re Wood but I'm thinking the point of a team full of such lowly scorers wouldn't be to win, it would be to set a DDP record with 20 deaths inside the one calendar year. The impossible dream...

The reason why Clive Dunn was chosen as numero uno in the first place was because the committee, young, feckless and half-drunk at the student bar (I know because I've been in that situation myself!) assumed Dunn was ancient because he played an older character (he was of course just 66 at the time). A similar assumption can't be made these days because of the access to information is more accessible. We know pretty much the age of anyone famous at the click of a button. Dunn was an understandable misapprehension. That's hard to recreate in this business in these more knowing times...

It could all be a misunderstanding of course, but there were rumours about McAlpine's proclivities for years and so now it's all going to be swept under the carpet? Hmmm...

I wonder if he wrote him a letter. Dear Lordship, You didn't butt fuck me, I got it wrong. Oops! Sorry Stevo I think you can get a card specifically for that at Clinton's. They'll probably contrive a kiddies mistaken identity butt fuck day just sell a load of such cards...

Hey, the pun has changed again. (Which is good news as I had pretty much verbatim came up with the same one! )

2013 will be their last fling as a DDP theme team, then. Assuming the remaining lads go first, I may bag twenty of the lasses and go for all out bad-taste by naming my 20 "The Pussy Perishes Last" whaddya reckon? That's OK, but a warning that some of these old-timers don't seem to get the requisite British obit (see Violet Wood)...

Oscar's a gimmie, considering his current condition...