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Haven't a clue! I start by assuming nothing and being pleasantly surprised! You ever see the Stephen Fry/John Bird show Absolute Power take on the Davies incident?

@Gooseberry Crumble Ah Ron Davies, the famous fox admirer! I was partly through an anecdote about Lynda Chalker when I realised I was thinking of Angela Rumbold, who is older and dead.

Rejections 1. Jason DiTuillio 2. Dan Lacey 3. Dame Clare Marx 4. Natty Wailer And my team for 2022: 1. Acosta, Nelson (Chile manager, 1998 World Cup) 2. Alagiah, George (veteran BBC evening news presenter) 3. Bishop, Russell (Babes in the Wood murder, notorious but lacks Wiki) 4. Bolland, Rob (singer-songwriter, “In The Army Now”) 5. Burrow, Rob (international rugby player) 6. Caldwell, Bobby (American singer) 7. Marianne Faithful 8. DuBois, Barry (Australian TV presenter) 9. Duke of Kent, Prince Edward (High-ranking British royal, President: All England tennis club) 10. Durst, Robert (murderer/real estate heir) 11. Elford, Vic (60s F1 and rally driver) 12. Englert, Jan (Polish film actor) 13. Field, Frank (outspoken Labour MP for Birkenhead 1979-2019) 14. Foskett, Jeffrey (former Beach Boy) 15. Hellstrom, Ronnie (Swedish international goalkeeper, 3 World Cup finals) 16. Inoki, Antonio (WWE Hall of Famer wrestler) 17. Jones, Steve (guitarist, The Sex Pistols) 18. Keller, Tim (evangelist/writer from 2021 team) 19. Shannen Doherty 20. Langhans, Rainer (German filmmaker) 21. Latour, Bruno (French philosopher) 22. Lewis, Stephen (Canadian broadcaster/politician) 23. Jorge Toro 24. McMichael, Steve “Mongo” (Superbowl winner/pro-wrestler) 25. Parker, Tom (singer, The Wanted) 26. Parkes, Tony (Blackburn Rovers footballer, coach) 27. Pele (the most famous footballer to ever live, practically) 28. Perez, George (Marvel comics artist, Wonder Woman/Avengers) 29. Pleitgen, Fritz (Germany TV broadcaster) 30. Pressler, Larry (US Senator for South Dakota 1979-97) 31. Radakovic, Radovan (Serbian title winning footballer, manager) 32. Reichert, Julia (Oscar winning documentary maker) 33. Riba Romeva, Paul (Spanish author/musician) 34. Sartzetakis, Christos (Greek President 1985-90) 35. Vialli, Gianluca (Italian football player/manager) 36. Vitali, Dick (ESPN sportscaster) 37. Weiskopf, Tom (golfer) 38. Whale, James (British radio/TV presenter) 39. Linda Nolan 40. Zia, Khaleda (Prime Minister of Bangladesh 2001-6, opposition leader)

Done that before. One year Mirror journo Sue Carroll died after my team went in, so was replaced by my first random sub - 102 year old Luise Rainer. Who didn't even die that year.

Btw, Deathray, since you are passing - that weatherman got over 100 points this time. Somehow!

I decided to axe any defensive picks yesterday, aided by Brufen. So James Whale, Rob Burrow, Gianluca Vialli and George Alagiah all bit the dust. Otherwise... Michelle Fazzari - Stage IV cancer but I wasn't sure of the obit chances and had already taken a few gambles. Chris Croucher - If a Downton Abbey producer really did have lung cancer, we might have heard more about it than in his getting off jail news? Deborah James - Reptile had me tempted with his "6 months ahead of Phelan" timeline but James updates drive me crazy. One minute, she's near the end, next week, she's back bouncing back to normal again. Justin Yerbury - Think hes a goner this year but again QO worries. Barry DuBois - DItto but just no space. Natty Wailer - Not as famous as I had originally thought. Tony Parkes/Sir Jamie McGrigor - Too good picks suggested by sound forum names that I just lacked room to fit in. Jan Englert/Jason DiTuillio/Radovan Radakovic -Probably wont obit. Nothing really exciting this year from me.

Pan Breed 2022 then Gary Burgess (JOKER) Vicky Phelan Susie Steiner Russell Bishop Jana Bennett George Perez Frank Field Pele Khaleda Zia Vic Elford Tom Weiskopf Julia Reichert Larry Pressler Ronnie Hellstrom Nightbirde (Jane Marczewski) Steve "Mongo" McMichael Dame Clare Marx Antonio Russo (artist) Rob Bolland Tony Brown (NBA referee) My 11th year in the competition. Back in 2012, that was veteran status.

Worry not, you do a good job and it'll look good when its ready.

Congrates. One of the best debuts in living memory.

I stand by my post from the other year above - a big animal conservationist and a good science writer. Hopefully the whole oldest debut thing trend ceases for a bit.

Note 2022 has the most newcomers to the list since 1994.

I think we all know who to blame for this. Yeah, Betty White...

Nice. Already thinking I should have payed John Ashton more attention tbh! That Comedy team seems held together by sticky back plaster. Also hah, entirely different Sex Pistol from the one I was considering!

He's Arthur Fowler, the first real big sympathetic star of Eastenders (Dirty Den was a star too but more of a villain) from the start until they bumped his character off in a ratings grab in 1996 which was massively controversial at the time. Treacher can also be spotted in most of the 70s TV classics and some films but is now wheelchair bound and retired due to ataxia.

I did actually have Denis Law on my shortlist as I only recently twigged its vascular dementia he has, which is a much shorter timeframe. But yes, a year too early, I think.

I've gone for the great Bill Treacher on the basis that a big soap name always seems to die near the start of the year.

That was me. And nice as it would be to have inspired a DL pick, I suspect Nigel was on their radar long before! For the record, here he is chatting about rugby a few years ago: And this was him just before Christmas:

He quite suddenly married his girlfriend in October just there.

Aye we called it Sir Creep Gate. I won't reveal the DDP player involved too distracted by nookie at that time though. Confidentiality.

Might be Dumbledoomed then.

The Full List for 2022 Pele 1271 (NEW) Jimmy Carter 1251 (7th, 4th) Frank Field 1212 (NEW) Leslie Philips 1096 (7th, 6th) Gorbachev 1025 (7th, 8th) Pope Benedict XVI 973 (7th, 5th) George Alagiah 944 (4th, 36th) Bob Barker 915 (4th, 18th) Glynis Johns 896 (6th, 14th) Jean Louis Trintignant 832 (4th, 33rd) Sidney Poitier 816 (6th, 32nd) Jerry Lee Lewis 801 (NEW) Henry Kissinger 756 (3rd, 17th) James Whale 726 (2nd, 11th) Linda Nolan 707 (3rd, 15th) Angela Lansbury 671 (2nd, 43rd) Harry Belafonte 663 (2nd, 35th) Queen Elizabeth II 598 (3rd, 44th) Olivia Newton John 594 (4th, 19th) Joanne Woodward 575 (5th, 25th) Shannen Doherty 555 (2nd, 26th) Tony Bennett 548 (NEW) Bill Turnbull 519 (3rd, 45th) Tom Smith 497 (3rd, 13th) Monica Vitti 487 (4th, 40th) Milos Zeman 463 (NEW) Rosalynn Carter 460 (4th, 29th) Yoko Ono 449 (3rd, 20th) James Watson 438 (NEW) Tom Parker 433 (2nd, 7th) Barbara Walters 433 (2nd, 38th) Norman Tebbit 427 (NEW) Francoise Hardy 411 (NEW) June Brown 400 (NEW) James Lovelock 381 (NEW) Bobby Charlton 371 (NEW) Nichelle Nichols 371 (NEW) George Perez 367 (NEW) Dick van Dyke 358 (NEW) Norman Lear 348 (NEW) Jiang Zemin 327 (NEW) Douglas Hurd 324 (NEW) Tom Weiskopf 317 (NEW) Jake the Snake 307 (NEW) Jacques Delors 295 (NEW) Jean Marsh 292 (NEW) David Graham 291 (NEW) Vic Elford 273 (NEW) Susie Steiner 272 (NEW) Gary Burgess 262 (NEW)

10th Jean Louis Trintignant 4th appearance, 33rd last year 832 points French Actor 9th Glynis Johns 6th appearance, 14th last year 896 points Suffragette 8th Bob Barker 4th appearance, 18th last year 915 points Quiz Guy 7th George Alagiah 4th appearance, 36th last year 944 points BBC Newsreader 6th Pope Benedict XVI 7th appearance, 5th last time 973 points God Botherer 5th GORBACHEV 7th appearance, 8th last year 1025 points Russian leader 4th Leslie Philips 7th appearance, 6th last year 1096 points Ding Dong 3rd Frank Field NEW 1212 points Labour Legend/Contrarian 2nd Jimmy Carter 7th appearance, 4th last year 1251 points Peanuts Farmer 1st Pele NEW 1271 points Mr Football

25th Monica Vitti 4th appearance, 40th place last year 487 points Actress 24th Tom Smith 3rd appearance, 13th last year 497 points Rugby Player 23rd Bill Turnbull 3rd appearance, 45th last year 519 points BBC Presenter 22nd Tony Bennett NEW 548 points Crooner 21st Shannen Doherty 2nd appearance, 26th last year 555 points Beverly Hills 20th Joanne Woodward 5th appearance, 25th place 575 points Actress 19th Olivia Newton John 4th appearance, 19th last year 594 points Tell me more… 18th Queen Elizabeth II 3rd appearance, 44th last year 598 points Her Maj Libby 17th Harry Belafonte 2nd appearance, 35th place 663 points Singer/Activist 16th Angela Lansbury 2nd appearance, 43rd place last year 671 points Your TV Gran 15th Linda Nolan 3rd appearance, 15th last year 707 points Nolan Sister 14th James Whale 2nd appearance, 11th last year 726 points Talksport Host 13th Henry Kissinger 3rd appearance, 17th last year 756 points Prince of Darkness 12th Jerry Lee Lewis NEW 801 points Not Yewtree’d Star 11th Sidney Poitier 6th appearance, 32nd last year 816 points Mr Tibbs

50th Gary Burgess NEW 262 points Your DDP Joker 49th Susie Steiner NEW 272 points Guardian journo/novelist 48th Vic Elford NEW 273 points Motor-racing star 47th David Graham NEW 291 points Grandpa Pig 46th Jean Marsh NEW 292 points Msc Favourite 45th Jacques Delors NEW 295 points Not A Sun Reader 44th Jake “the Snake” Roberts NEW 307 points Yoga Fan 43rd Tom Weiskopf NEW 317 points Golfer 42nd Douglas Hurd NEW 324 points Tory Grandee 41st Jiang Zemin NEW 327 points Drol Favourite 40th Norman Lear NEW 348 points Big in American (allegedly) 39th Dick Van Dyke NEW 358 points Professional Cockney 38th George Perez NEW 367 points Comics Legend 37th Nichelle Nichols NEW 371 points Star Trek star 36th Bobby Charlton NEW 371 points World Cup winner 35th James Lovelock NEW 381 points Gaia Scientist 34th June Brown NEW 400 points Dot Cotton 33rd Francoise Hardy NEW 411 points Big in France 32nd Norman Tebbit NEW 427 points Sean’s Cuddly Uncle ™ 31st Barbara Walters 2nd appearance, 38th last year 433 points Barbara Wawa 30th Tom Parker 2nd appearance, 7th last year 433 points Wanted 29th James Watson NEW 438 points Scientist 28th Yoko Ono 3rd appearance, 20th last year 449 points Beatles Wife 27th Rosalynn Carter 49th appearance, 29th last year 460 points Peanut Farmer’s Wife 26th Milos Zeman NEW 463 points Our Czech Mate

Also, the usual B-team of interesting oldies and now one 90s heart throb too. Yeah, I couldn't resist... Here's Who You Could Have Won V: Benny and the Jet Pope Benedict XVI Diane Youdale (Jet) Raymond Stanley Morris, Earl of Balgonie Vic Seixas Dick Taverne Molly Parkin Harriet Buchan David Winnick Brian Glanville Lawrence Gordon Clark PJ Hammond Candace Hilligoss Kenneth O Morgan Diane Hoh David Irving Dr Richard Taylor John Glen Bill Butler Jerry Hardin Lon Satton