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Aye, for me! Six month personal drought ends.

Characteristic typos too! Must fix those in the morning!

Fair enough, didn't know that about Gest. Fisher was a product of her own...vices, yes. I just meant the exact place she was in when it happened meant she was pretty much doomed, whereas if she'd been in London or home she'd likely have seen a cardiac specialist much quicker. Goody is the prime example of "go get your tests".

Given Fisher's death was probably due to where she had her heart attack (ie on an airplane), its weird to think that 8 out of 10 Cats Appearance might have cost her and her mum their lives... (Also, wasn't David Gest a 60 year with poor health having a stroke? Those things happen too...)

He looked ready to snuff it about 50 years ago when still a TV presenter! One of those permanently gaunt looking people. Famously said in 2015 that Labour would hold Grimsby even if they put up a "raving sex mad paedophile" as a candidate. That dated well.

If he pulls back 15 points from August, the rest deserve to lose in my book. Err, I mean, yes, true, but still the lesser evil imo.

Was going to say the first time a DQ'd pick might effect the top of the DDP, but actually scratch that - Spade's sub (musician Milford Graves) gave him considerably more points than Vivienne ever would have!

One of your "classic "Ideas and Possibilities for 20th August" suggestions then!

Thanks everyone. I think thats the DDP pretty much as up to date as possible. If that doesn't jinx a deluge with my luck of late nothing will.

Mysteriously the LOTL is never complete because folk never seem to tell us about their obscure picks when they don't get obits!

Hello, as it's not showing up on the search, can folk let me know who didn't get a Qualifying Obit and so has to be added to the List of the Lost. Thanks.

As that Dr Who list I did 16 months ago has had over 30 deaths since, it is now woefully out of date. Also, a number of other names have been confirmed as alive, which is nice. So, here's an update stretching to 1953 (ie actors/actresses/writers/directors 68 or older in 2021). Some folk are still difficult to track down, but I think we've got nearly every QO cert Dr Who alumni down now, including some who had kept their DOBs secret. Take a bow Jane Sherwin. If the year of birth is a rough estimate (see Peter Fraser, not a stage name but a bloody common one, the c for circa remains!) Nigel Johns – Young Silurian – is still alive but I can’t track his DOB. Ditto Cynthia Grenville who was “not an old lady” when she appeared in Brain of Morbius and was doing conventions recently. Lloyd McGuire is a stage name by looks of it. Edward Arthur lives in Spain. Geoffrey Bateman was born sometime during the 1940s but so were 20 other Geoffrey Batemans. Crawford Logan still does radio. Rachel Davies (State of Decay) is alive but clearly not the one born 1926 on BMD from Manchester - I think she was born circa 1940 and have plumped for that below for now! Jacqueline King is in her 60s. 1. 1920 – Arnold Yarrow 2. 1924 – William Russell, Donald Pelmear, Laurie Webb 3. 1925 – David Graham, Morris Perry, Ysanne Churchman, Hugh Lund (played a Zarbi), Peter Thompson (played a Primord) – can’t find 100% proof these last two are still going but better sourced people say they are as of 2020! 4. 1926 –Barbara Clegg 5. 1927 –June Brown, Frank Mills, Graham Rigby, Derek Smith, Wendy Danvers (c.) 6. 1928 –Peter Cellier, Michael Craig, Georgine Anderson, Bernard Cribbins, George Little 7. 1929 – Colin Jeavons, Steve Machin, John Woodvine, Clifford Rose, John Nettleton, Thelma Barlow, John Greenwood, Patricia Prior 8. 1930 – Henry Lincoln, Shirley Cooklin, Roy Evans. David Garfield, Henry Woolf, Lillias Walker, Gary Watson, Brian Peck, Maureen Heneghan, Henley Thomas 9. 1931 –Cy Town, Kenneth Cope, June Bland, Claire Bloom, Kenneth Seeger, Gordon Faith, Raymond Llewellyn (may actually be born in 1928) 10. 1932 – Sonny Caldinez, Carmen Munroe, John Gorrie, Jolyon Booth, Edward de Souza, Vera Fusek, Gabriel Woolf, Antony Carrick, Vilma Hollingberry, Wendy Gifford, Kenton Moore, Dinny Powell, Roy Spencer (c.), Andrew Lodge (c.), Jane Sherwin 11. 1933 – Bernard Lodge, Michael Allaby, Geoffrey Frederick, Patrick Godfrey, Donald Douglas, Michael McStay, Derek Martin, Rhoda Lewis, Sheila Hancock, Ian Frost, Mona Hammond, Joan Linder, Helen Dorward 12. 1934 –Mary Peach, Jeremy Young, Billy Cornelius, Ann Davies, Robert Aldous, Jean Marsh, Kenneth Ives, Gilbert Wynne, Vernon Dobtcheff, Christopher Benjamin, Tom Baker, Roy Macready, Sylvia Syms, Mitzi McKenzie, John Davies, Leila Hoffman, Martin Muncaster, Jean Challis, Nicholas McArdle (c.), Annette Crosbie, Burnell Tucker 13. 1935 – Tristan de Vere Cole, George Roubicek, Derren Nesbitt, Julian Glover, Michael Imison, Glenn Beck, Derrick Goodwin, Wanda Ventham, Susan Engel, Michael Jayston, Janet Henfrey, Anne Reid, David Daker, Allister Bain, Gregg Palmer (c.), Anna Barry, Valentine Palmer, Richard Martin 14. 1936 –Timothy Combe, Douglas Sheldon, David Savile, Richard Franklin, Tessa Shaw, Tim Barlow, Brian Blessed, Tony Scoggo, Richard Wilson, Jon Lauriemore, Terence Lodge, Peter Fraser (c.), Malcolm Rogers, Rhys McConnochie, Peter Laird, Dick Mills, Jennifer Hill 15. 1937 – Derrick Gilbert, Michael Kilgarriff, Tony Caunter, Eileen Helsby, Michael Ferguson, Hugh Futcher, Donald Gee, Tom Georgeson, Brian Grellis, Geoffrey Hinsliff, Sheila Reid, Gawn Grainger, William Gaunt, Ian Hogg, Vic Tablian, Martin Cort, Viktors Ritelis, David Arlen, Davyd Harries, Terrence Hardiman, Brian Cullingford, Darrol Blake, Steven Berkoff, Anthony Verner, Brian Wright (c.) , Brian Ellis 16. 1938 – Tina Packer, Milton Johns, Brian Hodgson, Warris Hussein, Spencer Chapman, Frances White, John Tillinger, David Weston, Tim Goodman, Christopher Dunham, Richard Kane, Christopher Robbie, Leslie Schofield, Laurence Harrington, Tim Preece, Julian Fox, Roy Boyd, David McKail, Eleanor Bron, John Savident, Tony Selby, Val McCrimmon, John Tordoff, Derek Jacobi, Penelope Lee, Col Farrell, Marcus Hammond, Martyn Huntley (c.), Roslyn de Winter, Douglas Ditta, Pamela Greer (c.), George Gallacio 17. 1939 –Geoffrey Kirkland, Ian Thompson, Peter Purves, Marina Martin, Lynda Baron, Eric Mival, Rudolph Walker, John Moreno, Paul Grist, Bob Baker, Garrick Hagon, Jonathan Newth, John Cleese, Ian McCulloch, Jonathan Burn, Edmund Pegge, James Fox, Ian McKellen, Meg Wynn-Owen, Ronald Rich (c.), Richardson Morgan (c.) 18. 1940 –Bernard Holley, Pauline Collins, Carole Ann Ford, Clive Doig, Neville Smith, Annette Robertson, David Calderisi, Stanley McGeagh, Alec Linstead, Tony Adams, Ben Howard, John Black, Barry Stanton, James Beckett, Judy Cornwell, Angela Douglas, William Wilde, Jim McManus, Gilly Fraser (c.), Ringo Starr, Brigit Forsyth, Michael Gambon, Nick Evans (c.) , Lyn Ashley, Alexandra Tynan/Sandra Reid (c.), ,June Murphy, Norman Tipton (c.) 19. 1941 – John Levene, Hannah Gordon, Martin Jarvis, Christopher Tranchell, Kay Patrick, Anneke Wills, Mike Lucas, John Atterbury, Geoffrey Beevers, Michael Walker, Andrew Robertson, David Gooderson, Christopher Hamilton Bidmead, Nerys Hughes, Ahmed khalil, Brian Miller, Polly James, David Ashton, Alan David, Roy Marsden, Angela Pleasance, Maurice O’Connell, Rachel Davies (c.), Roger Limb, David Warner, David Ashford, Claire Jenkins (c.), David Valla, Carl Rigg 20. 1942 – Illona Rodgers, Michael E Briant, Robert Sidaway, Prentis Hancock, Ian Talbot, Fernanda Marlowe, Stuart Fell, James Marcus, Patricia Maynard, Stephen Yardley, John Challis, Brian Croucher, Denis Lill, Paul Shelley, John D Collins, Chloe Ashcroft, Pam St Clement, Peter Symonds, Caroline Hunt, Margot Hayhoe (c.), John Bloomfield, Ernie Vincze, Bernard Lloyd-Jones, John Owens, David Bradley, David Quilter, Paul McCartney, Michael Elwyn, Jo Rowbottom, Wanda Moore, Harriet Philpin (c.), Gillian Brown (c.), Andrew Morgan, Paul Bentley 21. 1943 – Donald Sumpter, Kevork Malikyan, Virginia Wetherell, Maureen O’Brien, Valentino Musetti, Delia Lindon, Giles Block, George Layton, Ian Hines, David Simeon, David Griffin, Chris Boucher, Gregory de Polnay, John Leeson, Peter Straker, Colin Baker, Georgina Hale, Edward Peel, Sylvester McCoy, Roger Nott, Roger Murray-Leach, Julia Foster, Elliott Cairnes, Sue Pulford, Ellis Jones, Christopher Bailey (c.) 22. 1944 – Adam Verney, Frazer Hines, Fiona Walker, Paula Topham, Sally Faulkner, Graham Weston, Pik-Sen Lim, Philip Hinchcliffe, Catherine Schell, Barry Andrews, Nigel Lambert, Eric Saward, Timothy Block, Keith Drinkel, Martin Potter, Isla Blair, Matthew Robinson, Barbara Kinghorn, Faith Brown, Colin Spaull, John Ogwen, Richard Hartley, Patricia Quinn, Julian Holloway, Anne Robinson, Judith Paris, Paul Joyce, Ian Barritt, David Rowlands, John Flanagan, Bernard G High, 23. 1945 – Clive Merrison, Sandra Bryant. John Kane, Conrad Asquith, John Abbott, Andrew McCulloch, Graeme Harper, Michael Melia, Nicolas Chagrin, Alibe Parsons, Morgan Deare, Bill Lyons, Michael Brandon, Bill Paterson, Michael Bertenshaw, Tariq Anwar, Sarah Hellings, Dave Anderson, Michael Owen Morris (c.), Peter Robert Scott, Forbes Collins (c.), Leena Dhingra (c.), 24. 1946 –Richard Ireson, Miles Northover, Katy Manning, Graham Simpson, Tom Chadbon, Sheila Ruskin, Annie Lambert, Roger Davenport, Roy Holder, Martin Cochrane , Dicken Ashworth, Simon Williams, Penelope Wilton, Colin Prockter, Struan Rodger, Maureen Lipman, Robin Soans, James Acheson, Colette Gleeson, Timothy Dalton, Martin Fisk, David Suchet, Brian Cox, Graham Simpson, Felicity Kendal, Togo Igawa, James Snell, John Gleeson (c.), Susan Jerrard Baker (c.) 25. 1947 – Wendy Padbury, Petra Markham, Felicity Gibson, Guy Siner, Brendan Price, Adrienne Burgess, Michael Keating, Paul Seed, Tony Osoba, Michael Osborne, Christopher Neame, Paddy Kingsland, Michael Cochrane, James Warwick, Ann Holloway, Alec Sabin, Peter Burroughs, Terry Molloy, Rula Lenska, John Alkin, Stephen Churchett, Leslie Meadows, William Thomas, Jack Galloway, John Tallents, Ralph Arliss, Colin Stinton, Ann Widdecombe, George Costigan, Ozzie Yue, Lois Baxter, William Dudman, Colin Fay (c.), Anthony Rowlands, Richard Clark, Ken Bones 26. 1948 –Matthew Corbett, Stewart Bevan, Peter Howell, Gareth Armstrong, David Warwick, David Sibley, Paul Jerricho, Michael J Jackson, Anita Graham, Stephen Wyatt, Joseph Marcell, Ron Cook, Peter Walshe, Mat Irvine, Tony Virgo, Rusty Goffe, Miles Fothergill (c.), Ian McElhinney 27. 1949 – Susan Penhaligon, Andrew Johns, Rob Edwards, Neil Dalglish, Keith Skinner, Martyn Whitby, Jeananne Crowley, Zoe Wannamaker, Simon Callow, Geoffrey Sax, David Allister (c.), Judy Norman, Ian Gelder, Bill Nighy, Mike Elles, Deep Roy, Carmen Gomez, Keith Parry 28. 1950 – David Troughton, Cheryl Hall, Nick Hobbs, Pamela Salem, Nigel Plaskitt, Michael Cashman, Liza Goddard, Nitza Saul, Eric Deacon, David Chandler, Christopher Ryan, Rachel Bell, Sharon Duce, Annette Badland, Robert Pugh, Paul Lavers, Catherine Howe, Ian McNeice, Ricky Newby (c.), Jenny McCracken (c.), Jane How, Renu Setna, Elizabeth Parker, Lindsay Duncan, Harriet Walter 29. 1951 – Louise Jameson, Lalla Ward, David Yip, Tim Munro, Peter Davison, Simon Rouse, David Banks, Jeff Rawle, Philip McGough, David Rodigan, Chris Clough, Angela Bruce, Michael Fitzgerald, Don Warrington, Juliet Cadzow, Graham Turner, David Schofield 30. 1952 – Nina Thomas, Roderick Smith, Imogen Bickford-Smith, Ian Saynor, Clare Clifford, Alexei Sayle, Patrick Ryecart, Tomek Bork, Nicholas Gecks, Sharon Osborne, Albert Welling, Celia Imrie, Art Malik 31. 1953 – Rosalind Lloyd, Jennifer Lonsdale, Janet Fielding, Gareth Milne, Steve Morley, Trevor Cooper, Nabil Shaban, Malcolm Kohll, Christopher Guard, Deborah Manship, Marc Platt, Norman Pace, Gareth Hale, Gordon Tipple, Dona Croll, Ian Hanmore, Phil Davis, Stuart Milligan, Richard Hope, Lorelei King, Christopher Fairbank, Maureen Beattie At some point that isn't 1am on a work day I'll go back to this and bring up current health/etc too.

I thought you were there. You are now.

Hah, I appear to have used up most of my DDP scoring ability on Rush Limbaugh's death. Totally worth it.

The all time points bit amuses me, as I am now in the top 20 (hooray for me!) but also something like 14th highest tally not to win the DDP. It is heavily skewered towards the last decade. Although it also shows how good folk like Octopus of Odstock and Rotten Ali and Banshees were at the game, to have not played for a while but still be well in the top 25 all time. (Although Ali's back this year after a long absence, which raised a huge cheer at DDP Towers!) I'm on 83 hits. Given the current 6 month drought 100 may take a wee while!

Only on 5 teams this year so will need more "dying Harrods tycoon" type stories with more info to threaten Drop 40.

DL worthy name imo.

Someone who will get the full host of QOs yet has never been mentioned on this forum. Apparently he's just written his autobiography. Alvin Rakoff, director of Requiem for a Heavyweight (the TV film which launched Sean Connery), A Voyage Round my Father and A Dance to the Music of Time, as well as countless TV adaptations of Shakespeare and plays, and RSC/West End theatre plays in general. He is also Jacqueline Hill from Doctor Who's widower. He gave an interview to the BBC 2 days ago (!) where he sounds bloody good for his age, but one to watch surely given he is 94 now.

I'm not a fan of it either - Blair jumped the shark somewhat in the 90s with it, to the point Pulp was satirising it in 1997! As for Carter, I find him fascinating. He's the only man who ever rose from social housing and a bank loan collapsing business to become President of the US. (Yeah he had a famous dad who left him with fuck all money, which put him slightly further up the ladder than Joe Bloggs but still.) Then, when he became President, he tried to be the type of President people always claim they want. A straight talker who wont bullshit them about the economy. Someone who wont send the troops into battle needlessly. A negotiator. etc etc etc. And they recoiled. They hated his straight talking and diplomacy the second it hurt them in their pocket. Rushed right back to the Republicans. It's a very telling story (which is still relevant imo). In office his biggest achievement was the Camp David Accords, which is a plus imo as it has had two warring enemies at peace with each other for over 40 years now. However, it does sum up Carter's time in office that even this achievement could have been far wider reaching if someone with intelligence had twigged to bring more parties on board. (Sadat convinced Carter that Jordan would agree to terms without being included, Jordan very much didn't, and the Egypt/Jordan (and allies)/Israel issue has been problematic since!) It wound up being a net plus for the region but it could have transformed the entire Middle East. I find flawed but fundamentally decent people (note, not political party relevant) who go into systems and get chewed up fascinating, myself. They all want to be Mr Smith. Mr Smith lost. (As for his reputation, it's not that difficult to understand? Old man who talks about peace for 40 years is going to gain fans!) Far more ground to debate and discuss than I've ever found with the likes of David Cameron or Keir Starmer tbh.

Well you've mentioned he played the rapist in Straw Dogs. The Taggart he's in is the one where the policeman's wife is murdered when he's on duty and that one never sticks in the mind very long. However, he's far more infamous in Hamish MacBeth. He's the escaped convict who kills Wee Jock! That's genuinely one of the best bits of TV from the 90s, as Hamish goes out to avenge the ghost haunted killers of his beloved pet. Hutchison is very good as an old timer with increasingly several screws loose in his noggin. He was a very good actor who wasn't afraid to play utter cunts on TV and film for our enjoyment. (Pictured on the right, next to the late Billy McColl, Scottish actor who died far too young in 2014...)

Should have been C No Murder then. That's the best rap joke you're going to get out of me.

You've heard the old joke which is probably not very-PC now? The old guy was dying and his last wish was to see a pair of tits, so because he was dying, the nurses agreed and got him a visit from Ant and Dec.

Hmm, I know they say you lose practice while hosting but this just happened. Step 1 - Oh that's a name I've not heard in a while, and they're ill. I better write that down for next years DDP. Step 2 - Double check the info. Step 3 - Find out they wont be a good name for the DDP, as they actually died in 1999....

Murray Melvin turned 89 yesterday, and looks good for his age. (Not a fan of the look of that pesto he's eating though!) (Alfie, Barry Lyndon, shitloads, passing "who is that?" youngsters...)

Tempted me to look up other names over 80 from kids TV in my youth. (Using the kids TV caption more than the Playschool one, tbh.) Peter Renaday - voice of Master Splinter in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, born 1935. Patricia Edgar - producer of Round the Twist, born 1937. The author Paul Jennings is alive aged 78. Christopher Awdry - carried on the Thomas the Tank series when his father retired. born 1940. Alan Hawkshaw - composer of the Grange Hill theme (also the Countdown theme). born 1937. Anne Wood - Teletubbies creator, also behind Rosie and fucking Jim. born 1937. Carlo Bonomi - The, err, voice of Pingu! Born 1937 Vivian Pickles - Secret Agent Cynthia Birdwood in the Uncle Jack series, a role that doesn't even make her Wiki! born 1931 Laurent de Brunhoff - Babar writer/exec, born 1925. Allan Ahlberg - Co-writer of Woof! with his late wife, born 1938 Colin Wyatt - Poddington Peas creator born 1939. Peter Sasdy - Director of the Adrian Mole TV series but somewhat better known for The Stone Tape! born 1935. John Alderton - You know who he is, but alongside his CV he was also voice of Fireman Sam. born 1940 Claudio Biern Boyd - The chap behind Dogtanian and Willy Fogg, born 1940 Brian Patton - the surviving Patton Brother, real life brothers of the Chuckle Brothers and also kids entertainers, born 1933 Roger Greenaway - Songwriters Hall of Fame writer, probably for The Family Ness theme tune. born 1938 Anna Home - creator of Dramarama, also produced The Changes, commissioned Grange Hill and cancelled Play School, born 1938 Well there's a decade anyhow, and not exhaustive or particularly new names but reminders of some still breathing.