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Alas, not, as you know any list of mine is ludicrously long and stupid. Right, here we go, every single Labour MP who has died since John Smith's death in 1994. As that gives a quarter century and is a famous premature death to kick things off from. I started by adding causes of death but after I realised how many fucking names this way I gave up on that bit... 1. Hartley Shawcross, 101 2. Bert Hazell, 101 3. Ted Short, 99 4. John Freeman, 99 5. Denis Healey, 98 6. Jack Dunnett, 97 7. Carol Johnson, 97 8. Douglas Houghton, 97 9. George Wallace, 97 10. William Wilson, 97 11. Michael Foot, 96 12. Jack Diamond, 96 13. Robert Sheldon, 96 14. Hugh Jenkins, 95 15. John Platt-Mills, 95 16. Ronald King Murray, 94 17. David Lambie, 94 18. WIlliam Howie, 94 19. Ernest Millington, 93 20. Ernest Kingdom, 93 21. Bill Field, 93 22. James Callaghan, 92 (Prime Minister) 23. Mildred Gordon ,92 24. Michael McGuire, 92 25. Alec Woodall, 92 26. Alan Thompson, 92 27. John Lee, 92 28. Barbara Castle, 91 29. Albert Roberts, 91 30. Roy Mason, 91 31. Leo Abse, 91 32. Alex Eadie, 91 33. Joel Barnett, 91 34. Walter Harrison, 91 35. Frank Hooley, 91 36. Lena Jager, 91 37. Austen Albu, 91 38. Jim Callaghan, 91 (not the Prime Minister) 39. Norman Atkinson, 90 40. RIchard Buchanan, 90 41. Julius SIlverman, 90 42. Eirene White, 90 43. Bernard Conlan, 90 44. Roland Moyle, 89 45. Francis Noel-Baker, 89 46. Margaret McKay, 89 47. Arthur Davidson, 89 48. Stan Thorne, 89 49. Jack Ashley, 89 (pneumonia) 50. Gwilyn Roberts, 89 51. Donald Chapman, 89 52. Edwin Wainwright, 89 53. Frank Allaun, 89 54. Tony Benn, 88 (multiple strokes) 55. Tom Cox, 88 56. Douglas Jay, 88 57. Ernest Perry, 88 58. Eric Moonman, 88 59. John Ellis, 88 60. Michael English, 88 61. Roderick MacFarquhar, 88 62. Hugh Brown, 88 63. George Thomas, 88 64. Ednyfed Hudson Davies, 88 65. Sheila Wright, 88 (Long illness) 66. Martin Flannery, 88 67. Arthur Bottomley, 88 68. David Watkins, 87 (stroke) 69. Don Dixon, 87 70. Thomas Christopher Boyd, 87 71. Stanley Crowther, 87 72. Henry Usborne, 87 73. Gordon Bagier, 87 74. Greville Janner, 87 (dementia) 75. James Hamilton, 87 76. Harold Boardman, 87 77. George Thomson, 87 78. Syd Tierney, 86 79. Hugh McCartney, 86 80. James Wellbeloved, 86 81. Sir Gerald Kaufman, 86 ( long illness) 82. John Gilbert, 86 83. James Johnson, 86 84. Doris FIsher, 86 85. Geoffrey Lofthouse, 86 86. James White, 86 87. Nigel Spearing, 86 88. Allen McKay, 86 89. Brian Walden, 86 90. Arthur Latham, 86 91. Jock Stollard, 86 92. Joe Ashton, 86 (dementia complications) 93. Piara Khabra, 85 (liver failure) 94. Merlyn Rees, 85 95. Michael Welsh, 85 96. Denis Coe, 85 97. Hugh Gray, 85 98. John Evans, 85 99. Michael Barnes, 85 100. Peter Archer, 85 101. Tom Ellis, 85 102. Bruce Millan, 85 103. Andrew McMahon, 85 104. Charles Morris, 85 105. Walter Johnson, 85 106. David Kerr, 85 107. Bob Wareing, 84 (chest infection) 108. Peter Doig, 84 109. Tam Dalyell, 84 (short illness) 110. John Mackie, 84 111. Ron Ledger, 84 112. Cledwyn Hughes, 84 113. Kenneth Robinson, 84 114. Alan Williams, 84 (stroke complications) 115. Alf Morris, 84 (short illness) 116. Jack Dormand, 84 117. John Hughes, 84 118. Caerwyn Roderick, 84 119. Paul Flynn, 83 (long illness) 120. Edward Lyons, 83 121. John Forrester, 83 122. Frank Marsden, 83 123. Thomas Torney, 83 124. Ashley Brammall, 83 125. Christophr Price, 83 126. Anthony Gardner, 83 127. William Whitlock, 83 128. Renee Short, 83 129. Lewis Carter-Jones, 83 130. Richard Marsh, 83 131. Kevin McNamara, 82 (pancreatic cancer) 132. Stan Orme, 82 133. Jack Thompson, 82 134. Robert Cant, 82 135. Willie Hamilton, 82 136. John Fraser, 82 137. James Dickens, 82 138. Dick Douglas, 82 139. William Molloy, 82 140. William McKelvey, 82 (long illness) 141. Derek Foster 81 (cancer) 142. Terence Boston, 81 143. David Pitt, 81 144. Dr Norman Godman, 81 (sudden illness) 145. Albert Booth, 81 146. Bill Michie, 81 (chest infection) 147. Ian Campbell, 81 148. Maurice Miller, 81 149. Ernest Armstrong, 81 150. John Moore, 81 151. Denzil Davies, 80 152. Syd Bidwell, 80 153. Bob Litherland, 80 (long cancer battle) 154. Nigel Beard, 80 (long illness) 155. Helen McElhone, 80 156. Reg Freeson, 80 157. Frank Dobson, 79 (cancer) 158. Neil Carmichael 79 159. Niall MacDermot, 79 160. Alfred Bates, 79 161. Eddie Loyden, 79 (Alzheimers complications) 162. Harold Wilson, 79 (dementia) 163. Paul Rose, 79 164. Ben Whitaker, 79 165. Bill Olner, 78 (COVID) 166. Roy Hughes, 78 167. Derek Page, 78 168. John Ryman, 78 169. Eddie O'Hara, 78 (COPD) 170. Robin Corbett, 78 (lung cancer) 171. Cecil Franks, 78 172. Roger Thomas, 78 173. James Lamond, 78 174. Brian Sedgemore, 78 (fall in hospital) 175. Bruce George, 77 (Alzheimers complications) 176. Peter Shore, 77 (short illness) 177. Kenneth Lomas, 77 178. Ken Purchase, 77 (never announced) 179. Brian Parkyn, 77 180. Ted Leadbitter, 77 (car accident) 181. Andrew Faulds, 77 (short illness) 182. Rhodri Morgan, 77 (heart problems) 183. Gwnyeth Dunwoody, 77 (complications from emergency heart surgery) 184. Michael Ward, 77 185. James Tinn, 77 186. Frank Cook, 76 (lung cancer) 187. Stan Cohen, 76 188. Joseph Dean, 76 189. Fred Mulley, 76 190. John Garrett, 76 191. Norman Haseldine, 76 192. John Dunwoody, 76 193. Harold Walker, 76 (short illness) 194. Maurice Foley, 76 195. Harry Ewing, 76 196. Eric Varley, 75 197. Dennis Hobden, 75 198. Michael Meacher, 75 (sudden illness) 199. Jimmy Wray, 75 (bowel cancer) 200. John Ovenden, 75 201. John Gunnell, 74 (short illness) 202. Gordon Oakes, 74 (cancer) 203. Stuart Randall, 74 204. Stuart Bell, 74 (long battle with cancer, a newspaper did a bit on him being lazy and had to back track when they learned he was in hospice care) 205. Alan Keen, 74 (cancer) 206. Colin Phipps, 74 207. Jim Dobbin, 73 (drank too much absinthe) 208. Christine Butler, 73 (dementia) 209. Sir Ray Powell, 73 (asthma attack) 210. Bruce Douglas-Mann, 73 211. Don Concannon, 73 212. John Cummings, 73 (lung cancer) 213. William Hilton, 73 214. Alistair MacDonald, 73 215. Michael Martin, 72 (long illness) 216. David Ennals, 72 217. David Young, 72 218. Peter Hardy, 72 (short illness) 219. Terry Fields, 71 220. John Ryan, 71 221. Dennis Turner, 71 (Lung problems) 222. Jeremy Bray, 71 (heart problems) 223. Tommy Graham, 71 (fat bastard) 224. Michael Cocks, 71 225. Andrew Miller, 70 (cancer) 226. Tessa Jowell, 70 (brain cancer) 227. Gerry Steinberg, 70 (cancer) 228. Norman Hogg, 70 (long illness) 229. Rudi Vis, 69 (cancer) 230. Jimmy Hood, 69 (being a fat bastard) 231. Roland Boyles, 69 (early on set dementia) 232. Ron Brown, 69 233. William Edwards, 69 234. Sam Galbraith, 68 (turned down a lung transplant so someone younger could get it) 235. Frank Doran, 68 (cancer) 236. Audrey Wise, 68 (brain cancer) 237. John McWilliam, 68 (short illness) 238. Philip Whitehead, 68 239. Robert Parry, 67 (stroke and heart problems) 240. Ellis Hillman, 67 (heart attack) 241. Jimmy Dunnachie, 66 (cancer) 242. Joan Lestor, 66 (motor neurone disease) 243. Ivor Clemitson, 66 244. Alan Garner, 66 245. Edward Griffiths, 66 246. Malcolm Wicks, 65 (cancer) 247. John Tilley, 64 248. William Price, 64 249. David Taylor, 63 (heart attack) 250. Tony Banks, 63 (massive stroke) 251. Jim Marshall, 63 (heart attack likely caused by stress over his Iraq War opposition stance) 252. Donald Dewar, 63 (brain haemoraghe) 253. John Watkinson, 63 254. Sam McCluskie, 63 255. Candy Atherton, 62 (sudden death but looked frail in her last appearances) 256. Harry Harpham, 61 (cancer) 257. Rachel Squire, 61 (brain cancer and multiple strokes) 258. Paul Goggins, 60 (massive stroke) 259. Derek Enright, 60 (heart) 260. John MacDougall, 60 (mesothelioma) 261. Robin Cook, 59 (heart attack, fell down mountain) 262. Brian White, 59 (esophageal cancer) 263. Martin Redmond, 59 (undisclosed) 264. Marsha Singh, 57 (some sort of brain illness) 265. Roger Stott, 56 (liver cancer) 266. Bernie Grant, 56 (heart attack) 267. Terry Patchett, 56 (cancer) 268. Jamie Cann, 55 (liver failure) 269. Mo Mowlam, 55 (brain cancer) 270. Ashok Kumar, 53 (sudden heart failure) 271. Derek Fatchett, 53 (heart attack) 272. Kevin Hughes, 53 (motor neurone disease) 273. Fiona Jones, 49 (alcoholism after wrongful jail sentence) 274. Paul Daisley, 45 (colon cancer) 275. David Cairns, 44 (pancreatitis) 276. Jo Cox, 41 (Murdered by a Nazi) 277. Gordon McMaster, 37 (suicide, was being blackmailed over his homosexuality) Fucking hell. Anyhow, I think this proves you both right in a way - yes, the average is 82 and theres lots of long lived Labour MPs, but there's also a staggering number of "dead before 75" names on there. Also, I'm pretty sure the Tories tend to die in their 80s and 90s more often but given Thatcher spawned several million of those I'm not checking!

Yeah, there's a spate of Labour MPs dying in their 50s-70s, mostly from working class vices (nae exercise, too much booze and fags, crap diet). EDIT| - Working on a list for you, @YoungWillz

I had a weird dream the other night where we all found out DDT had died. It turned out he was a 70 year old farmer called Francis and had drowned in a recent flash flood in Devon trying to save his combine harvester. Anyhow he's still posting, but on the off chance he's a 70 year old farmer one day in a flash flood, just let the combine harvester go and save yourself... (I don't know why an animal farmer would have a combine harvester but I'm not in charge of the dreams...)

tbh I think a general Birthday thread would be of use too. Part of my reasoning being that a lot of the instagram birthday posts don't really load well on my phone, and some of us don't have other options to read the forum off of. The other part being I'm a moody bugger.

Genuinely cant ever recall someone trying to go on TV and prove they followed guidelines they helped set by listing 5 different ways they broke it, and then the government going "Well now he's cleared that up..."

Yeah, the first series was great, and the sequels not so good. There was one of the recent episodes that had about 1 minute of Jodie Comer in total while we focused on Eve's life. Dull.

Yeah, Razor Ruddock continuing to booze on a pacemaker might make him a good shout to overtake Gazza even. Although Kenny Sansom's not out of the woods yet. House of Games is good fun, yes. Sadly Killing Eve Season 3 is not very good. Bumping off old characters and suddenly introducing never mentioned before important characters smacks of the team running out of ideas. They should just have Eve and Villanelle hook up already.

Sheer Heart Attack for Brian May. They seem to have caught it in time if hes on Instagram about it.

Dennis Skinner is however not in the best of health. He was in hospital for most of the election campaign, and has been ill for years (I dont know the specifics, but he has been clearly frail in the last 18 months or so). He only stood because his local party thought only he could save the seat, but he wasn't well enough to put anything like a normal effort into campaigning. He did do a thing for Richard Burgon (a family friend) in February but looked hellish. I'm unconvinced he'll see his 90th birthday in February 2022.

Either he or his wife had it, not sure which. Drove the wife and kid from London to Durham to stay with his parents, coincidentally round the time of his mums birthday. Defence is he needed help with child care but ignores the fact the kid had an aunt living in London for that. Meanwhile there are thousands of people in the UK who couldn't even say goodbye to parents or kids who died thanks to the rules this guy helped set up. He's a cunt and Boris and Raab and the rest of them are cunts for defending him.

They list Wendy Danvers as born 1927 which seems...roughly accurate but I've not seen a source...

SF special of Celebrity Pointless tonight has a few old DL forum favourites. Team 1 was some youngsters from Harry Potter. Not that interesting. Team 2 was Sandra Dickinson (Trillian from Hitchhikers Guide, ex Mrs Peter Davison) and actor John Duttine who should need no introduction (Day of the Triffids, etc). Somehow Duttine is now in his 70s! Team 3 was Clive Mantle who only is 63 and Kiran Shah the midget actor from LOTR/Hobbit etc. The latter was in a seat and looking old. Team 4 was Sophie Aldred () and Carole Ann Ford, Classic Dr Who's last and first companions respectively. Ford is now 80, needed the dreaded chair, and appears to have lost a lot of weight since I last saw in interviews a few years ago.

NOT DEAD, DON'T WORRY As none of us watch The One Show on taste reasons, I missed that our Bernard made an increasingly rare TV appearance a few months back to give his reading of a true crime tale. Given his health has allegedly been on the wane, his increasing age and the fact that hes starting to show his age (did the portrait in the attic get damaged?), sharing it here as who knows how much new Bernard Cribbins stuff we've got left...

Story of a missed opportunity here. Finally got round to watching the Billy Bragg doc on Rock Island Line from 2017. Hylda Sims, skiffle musician from the 50s, shows up looking old and rough. "I should go put her on my shortlist" I think, looking up her age on Google to find... she died in January!

I didn't realise he was the guy in that Dr Who until Biblio's post.

Last summer

A rare solo for me with Gigi Simoni's death.

Yup, that's correct. At some point the full list should be updated, none of the stats are compiled automatically by the system.

Vinegar Tits, Ethnic Cleansing and Wormer etc have all achieved their 100th DDP hits btw. Belated congratulations. Deathlist.net is on 99 so their next DDP hit is 100. And Maryport is on 98. Going Underground on 97. Put here so I remember. In theory. Also pointing it out as still quite a rare feat.

Bit from her last TV series that showed how far gone her mind was imo: Random Church Woman: And this is the memorial to Princess Diana. Scales: Oh. Did she die? She blatantly didn't know the difference between her own kids and a total stranger anymore either. Tbh my experience of folk at the latter stages of dementia tends to be more of the Tony Booth school ie increasingly unable to even do basic stuff like feed themselves and piling up all kinds of ailments which eventually kill them. Horrendous stuff.

Biblio once described losing in the Cup solely by a FFBI pick (before those got axed) as feeling like the opposition dived for a penalty. I quite liked that one.

I was once threatened with modship by a mod who will remain nameless (cough Sir Creep's other half cough) but luckily one of the admins put the kibosh on that one. Mysteriously my gambit at the time ("I dont fancy doing any of the work, I just want to see the secret forum and gossip") didn't work. Can't think why.

Hah, the unlikely scenario amuses, but it's been a genuinely horrible day here so thanks for the kind words.

We missed this but Alf Ramsey's widow Lady Victoria Ramsey (for search purposes) died in March 2018. Mentioned in this BBC article.

To the surprise of no one, they've found Shad Gaspard's body. https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/20/shad-gaspard-body-found-venice-beach-drowning-wwe-wrestler-dead-39/