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My mum always found Savile nauseating and wouldn't let us watch him. She had no idea what he was up to, she just thought he was an "slimy Tory" (her words)! And I can't claim second sight or anything because we all happily watched Rolf Harris for years!

I refer you to all those DDP wins of mine.

1. Muazzez Cig 2. Anne Baker 3. June Spencer 4. Josip Manolic 5. Sir Patrick Duffy 6. Arnold Yarrow 7. Philippe de Gaulle 8. Dieter Gruen 9. Glynis Johns 10. Francis Graham-Smith 11. Vic Seixas 12. David H Murdock 13. Lily Ebert 14. Olav Thon 15. Princess Mikasa sub - Janis Paige

It is wiser to stay quiet and seem foolish than speak and remove all doubt. The wise Homer (Simpson) taught me that one young!

Jacques Delors is the first pre-game faller, he was in 18th place when he died. 3 days to go.

If it's still unclear nearer the time, let us know and I'll have a look.

Where the fuck has 2022 gone to? Apparently it's the 1st November already, so time to set in motion another Crowdsourced Deathlist. The 2022 version looks set to finish ahead of the official Deathlist (though they lacked the help of Gary Burgess). 2022 has seen a massive clear out of many long term Crowdsourced favourites, from Mr Tibbs to the Queen (and never mind Olivia Newton-John, some of you liked Her Maj too), so let's see how a new crop of fresh names does. Will the 2023 edition be able to top our current list? We will see, but for the time being let's go over the rules, shall we? THE RULES Rules 1. Please send a list of celebrities you wish to vote for to msc, during the time period of 1st November to the 31st December 2022. The list must have a minimum of 12 names on it, and a maximum of 50. Yes, this means we are open now, as I'll just forget to officially open it otherwise. For more evidence, note I actually opened this on the same day as the Deathrace thread after aiming to for half a decade and forgetting, so that's my ration of time keeping used for another decade... Please send them by either PM or via Shadow List thread, not by email, semaphore, Morse code, Deathlist live chat, animated corpses, text messages, or any other means of communication you can think of. And you may only submit via 1 of those two methods above, NOT BOTH METHODS! 2. Your 1st choice will gain 50 points, 2nd 49, etc etc to 50th which will gain 1 point. This is true even if you only send in 12 names, or 13 names, or 49 names. 3. When the deadline passes, all of the points that an individual celebrity gain will be added together, and the top fifty celebrities with the most points overall will go on the Utterly Unofficial Forum List. 4. Feel free to add substitutes at the bottom of the list, which will only be counted if one of your fifty die before January 1st 2023. If for example your number one pick is such a smart one they die before January 1st, then I will give 50 points to your 2nd pick, and so on until 1 point is given to the first substitute. 4b) Anyone who wishes to avoid a Betty White Meltdown and just says "oh put my subs in at the number of the person who died" gets 5 post likes from diego. 5. Do try to make the picks as "Deathlisty" as possible. More Jean Claude, less Miguel Van Damme, if you know what I mean. Someone likely to score an obit with one of the major English language news outlets. 6. The deadline for sending in entries is 31st December 2022 at 9 pm GMT. That's 4pm New York Time (31st December) and 8am (1st Jan) Melbourne time to help out non-Brits. This earlier deadline is so there's enough time to complete the list before the new year as well as enjoying some extra time off as well. I am keeping Joey's earlier cut off time for simplicity. 7. This is essentially a forum game without a winner. It does however put the longheld notion by some that the combined minds of the forum know better than the Committee to the test. 8. Who picked whom will remain anonymous. Unless the person announces it of course. 9. The paranoid probably shouldn't send in their DDP unique hopefuls. Whilst I do not intend to steal them away, it would make no sense: if the person then showed up on the list, their chances of being unique would be very slim indeed! 9b. If you do wish to send your DDP unique hopefuls, I won't complain! 10. To keep to the Deathlist spirit, only the top 25 ranked celebrities from the current list of Crowdsourced Deathlist 2022 survivors will be used: Pele, Jimmy Carter, Frank Field, Leslie Phillips, Pope Benedict XVI, George Alagiah, Bob Barker, Glynis Johns, Henry Kissinger, James Whale, Linda Nolan, Harry Belafonte, Joanne Woodward, Shannen Doherty, Tony Bennett, Milos Zeman, Rosalynn Carter, Yoko Ono, James Watson, Barbara Walters, Norman Tebbit, Francoise Hardy, Bobby Charlton, Dick van Dyke, Norman Lear, Jiang Zemin, Douglas Hurd, Jake the Snake, Jacques Delors, Jean Marsh and David Graham. As usual, this is something for me to worry about, not you. 10a) Our actual collated list will stick to the "25 from the previous year" rule. 10b) As a result, if our top fifty, after all votes have been counted, has more than twenty-five of the 2022 survivors (named for ease in Rule 10), then the lowest ranked excess survivors will be axed from the list in favour of The Fifty-First ranked celebrity and so on... 10c) Since we don't know if that'll be an issue until I actually do the counting, voters don't need to worry about limiting their personal lists to 25 survivors. It'd be nice if they did, but that's life. 11) Please pick living people. Folk do die before 1st January, but there were a few cases of people dead for a number of years chosen last time. Please do not pick animals, or ISIS prisoners, or kids, or any of the usual no go areas. 12) The Deathray Rule. If Deathers is reading this, he is more than welcome to find some way to get his usual 50 points for that bloody weatherman in! Anyhow, enjoy. Or not. Pope's never die, only the actors who play them... (It's a Simpsons gag.)

HE???? Poor Toast, and I was going to compliment her on her extensive CV this year too...

Good luck with the move, old chap! Do let us all know you're safe and well on the other side of it all.

Probably not the only person who saw high profile corrupt Indonesian politician Lukas Enembe claiming he was gravely ill a month ago and thought "yeah, like I'm falling for that one on the DDP". Well, apparently he was actually gravely ill and has died aged 56.

I've entered my annual team but to my great shock, for the first time ever in a decade, NO REJECTIONS. I've clearly gone full casual player!

The mother of Marie Trintignant stands out there as WTF.

Somewhat disgraced is cracking me up. Comes across as...He was a great wit (but alas also a paedo). Imagine Rolf trying that excuse.

Good to hear from you!

2023 team Arnold Yarrow (JOKER) Barbara Clegg David Attenborough David Graham Dick van Dyke Donald Pelmear Estelle Parsons Eva Marie Saint Glynis Johns Gudrun Ure Jacques Delors Jimmy Carter June Lockhart Laurie Johnson Lee Grant Mel Brooks Norman Jewison Oscar Quitak Roger Corman Sandy Gall Stanley Baxter William Daniels William Russell Valdas Adamkus Ysanne Churchman As is tradition, I put in the top 25 oldest big names on my long list, so I've replaced the four dead names from 2023 (RIP) with fresh blood. Those four new names (above in alphabetical order anyhow, but for ease of info) Estelle Parsons Sandy Gall William Daniels Laurie Johnson - the film and TV composer, did The Avengers theme Subs if needed before Jan 1st Shintaro Tsuji – the Hello Kitty guy Bill Rodgers (SDP Gang of Four) Desmond Morris Jim Lovell Tom Lehrer

Nor me. Iirc we used to have batch issues though.

Completely forgot about Bruce Willis!

Quick guess KEPT 1. James Whale 2. Jimmy Carter 3. Jonnie Irwin 4. Frank Field 5. Linda Nolan 6. Rob Burrow 7. Shannen Doherty 8. Dick Van Dyke 9. Andy Taylor (fewer teams but still enough) 10. Prunella Scales 11. Nigel Starmer Smith 12. Billy Connolly 13. Vladimir Putin 14. Roberta Flack 15. Steve McMichael 16. Yoko Ono 17. Tim Bilton 18. Mel Brooks 19. David Attenborough 20. Janey Godley 21. Simon Cowell (SOS) 22. Buzz Aldrin 23. Willie Nelson 24. Eva Marie Saint 25. Joanne Woodward 26. Glynis Johns 27. Stanley Baxter (28 picks in 2023) DROPPED – Kate Keltie (she's on about 30 DLer teams which is why she's Drop 40 in 2023, get rid of those...) , Rhod Gilbert (quite public news about his remission), Randy Jackson (only just snuck on as a one year punt pick imo) 1. Clint Eastwood (has been on the verge since before I was a co-host, almost certain) 2. Esther Rantzen (very famous and very sick) 3. Patricia Routledge (on the verge for a while, now older) 4. Theo Burrell (least convinced here but young and publicly ill = possible casual pick too) 5. Derek Draper (recent news brings him back into fashion) 6. Dave Myers (just had a Christmas special where his cancer is spoken about, almost a cert with more casual regulars) 7. Toby Keith (made it half way just on having cancer alone last December) 8. Rupert Murdoch (on the verge, very famous and now retired) 9. Bill Cosby (on the verge for ages) 10. Francoise Hardy (another nearly name for a while but also seems to have forum momentum too) 11. Pope Francis (would be from nowhere but A list and repeated hospital stays, more likely than some of the others imo) 12. Phil Collins (another close name in recent years that more casual players might pick) 13. Donald Trump (yeah, you know he's coming back in an election year, he's never far off the Drop 40)

Pratchett's dementia turned out to be much slower than he had feared and iirc he wound up dying of pneumonia or a similar complication before it got really bad. Esther's gonna Esther, you know.

If I become sickly I want you to announce my illness for the good luck, drol.

Plus with three years of organ failure, breathing issues, difficulty swallowing, signs of vascular dementia and now heart issues, its sort of like death would be kinder.

14 days left to get a list in.

Lead singer of a band popular with young people, m'lord. Also toured Europe and had chart success elsewhere on the continent which is unusual for a 20th century UK Eurovision pick.

I dispute that "still".

Everyone on this forum got weeks of warning about COVID because Drol was telling us all about how it was effecting his part of Italy weeks before it properly hit the UK or US. In properly horrific detail. If deathlist forumers knew something bad was coming there is no excuse for the government not to have. Boris Johnson thinks people like me blame him and his cabinet personally for personal COVID losses. And he's right. Because we do.