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Right, excuse the geek talk for 2 seconds, everyone else... Yeah, Eric Saward is a shit writer. Warriors of the Deep, where he talks up peace while slaughtering two entire species? Who was the script editor on that bollocks? Oh, yeah, Eric Saward. PERTWEE? With the karate and the thumping folk? A pacifist? It's like calling John Steed a pacifist, because he doesn't carry a gun. I know Guardian types like to think of the character as pacifist, but it's more someone who'd prefer a non-violent solution if possible, but is willing to fuck your shit up otherwise. Right, geek talk over.... Yeah, hard serious SF is fucking tedious. imo, of course. Dune, 2001 and all that. Yawn. Anyhow, Capaldi at 60 is too young for LFN.

Changes depending on the writer. Jodie Whittaker and the other new regulars were good. The dialogue and pacing were shite. As usual, Chris Chibnall tends to be the worst thing about any script by Chris Chibnall, but the actors did their best, and I hear better writers are on board in a few weeks. 8.2 million viewers overnight btw (ie before Iplayer and On Demand gets added on) - excellent for British drama in 2018.

LA MUERTA 12/50 6th October 2018 When the voters of this forum picked opera singer Montserrat Caballe for the 2018 Crowdsourced list, your honourable host wondered what they were thinking. Well, it turns out to be yet another case of What the hell Does he know, as Caballe has died to provide the list with its twelfth success of the year. Montserrat had a career in opera which stretched over 50 years, and saw her in demand in Europe and in Carnegie Hall. This high demand appeared to continue well into her 80s with the tax authorities in Spain. In the UK, she was probably best known for her duet with the brilliant Freddie Mercury. Barcelona reached 2nd in the UK Singles Charts in 1987. Caballe, who was 85, had been in poor health for some time, and so was selected in 33rd position by voters.

A great sacrifice. You watched it so we didn't need to.

If he makes it, imo. Yeah, we should think of the real victim here: Spade Cooley, reading the 2019 DDP entries.

Bloody hell, he does look fucked. Looking at the clip, not only does he look fucked, he can barely speak, and has the tell tale throat cancer voice. A year ago:

If yer fussed... since we're in a civilised country, every Birth record from 17-something or other is all in the same database you can check online for free (though it costs to order the actual certificates obv) if you just wanted to know years of folks birth. Obv if they had a name like, say, Duncan Campbell, not so helpful free...

His oldest child - the aforementioned Conscientious Objector - was born in 1922. If not for those German POWs risking their life, my entire branch of the family tree wouldn't exist. Funny thing, perspective!

None of my family served in WW2. WW1 produced such a wipeout that pretty much all of them were too old or too young. My uncle was a conscientious objector and went to prison instead. (He was a great man, no longer with us.) Another uncle would have been the right age, only he was allowed to join up in 1917 and died in action aged 12 or 13. My great-grandfather was gassed and shot and left for dead during WW1, but rescued by a POW stretcher party. These facts are in the wrong order, but are linked.

I liked the unofficial (allegedly) slogan from the Chirac campaign for Round 2: "Vote for the crook, not the fascist".

*hides* PS I stand by what I told TMIB in 2014 and last year. Future of the games a rolling stock Committee of people who can do various bits and bobs. Asking one person to do all the tasks and their real life job KO's most folk, as great a job as TMIB and Spade have and are doing.

You can't. The years not on the Wayback Machine had to be reconstructed from scratch using the Who's Dead page, TMIB's notes and this forum. Which is why no one is insane enough to have tried that before.

Some of the deaths reported in here are somewhat obscure (nowt wrong with that, I hasten to add) but Emerick's a name even I know well. Quite a CV over last 50 years and generally considered a great. RIP.

Dorothy Hukill, who quit her local Florida senate race yesterday due to cervical cancer, dead today. Even the Deathracers have no stamina...

Bit of a live update from the commentary on Bayern v Ajax in the Champions League, as one of his friends did a celebration for him. Nouri is apparently "getting better, thankfully" despite having "recently been in a coma".

Ok, so someone we'll call J Russ (nah, too obvious, Joey R) has been asking what the longest "runs on top of the DDP" were, because apparently his side did OK in the Derby pool this year. This did make me think about the actual DDP leadership lineage however, as whenever it comes up, someone asks "Oh isn't this, say, Odstock's first time on top in 4 years?" or what not. Now, this is a nearly impossible task, for a number of reasons. Who picked who in 1996 is entirely lost, so we lose any changes at the top at the very start, and indeed, who fucking picked a 7 year old... Other times, the obit came in some time after the person died, which nobbles at least one Odstock lead at one point, but while some are spottable via forum/website, most of those pre...2005 or so are lost in the mists of time. I also searched for some "remembered" runs at the top, only to find they don't appear to have actually existed. I'm also pretty sure there are "1 week wonder" runs missed out here or there, but they can be edited in later... DDT has taken the lead at the top of the Derby Dead Pool 13 different times. From what I can see, only 3 women have ever led the DDP. 23 Deathlist forum members have led the DDP (DDT, Death Impends, Joey Russ, Drol, Capn Chorizo, Bert, Spade Cooley, RadGuy, Maryport, Gcreptile as Shameless, Esturian Float, Octopus of Odstock, Harrymac, Garn, Godot, Toast, Canadian Paul, Rude Kid, Miser, Going Underground, The Man in Black, Football Fan, and Rotten Ali) but only 5 of those have won. (1996) 1. Nick J in 1996 – all records lost (1997) 2. 12th January 1997 – Nick J – Jill Summers 3. 10th February 1997 – Steve L – Brian Connolly 4. 21st March 1997 – Nick J – Rev Awdrey - WINNER (1998) 5. 21st January 1998 – Drunkasaskunk – Jack Lord 6. 6th February 1998 – Drunkasaskunk/Hoppo – Carl Wilson 7. 15th April 1998 – Drunkasaskunk – Pol Pot - WINNER (1999) 8. 7th February 1999 – Dave J/Sumo/Jesus Jones - King Hussein of Jordan 9. 9th February 1999 – Dave J/Drunkasaskunk – Bryan Mosley and Anne West 10. 24th February 1999 – Dave J – Derek Nimmo 11. 2nd March 1999 – Dave J/Drunkasaskunk – Dusty Springfield 12. 5th March 1999 – Drunkasaskunk – Lord Denning WINNER (2000) 13. 19th January 2000 – MT Graves – Bettino Craxi 14. 21st May 2000 – Finnbarr – John Gielgud 15. 1st July 2000 – MT Graves – Walter Matthau WINNER (2001) 16. 11th January 2001 – Miss Chief and Juicy Janny – Michael Williams 17. 16th January 2001 – Ed K – Auberon Waugh 18. 23rd April 2001 – Whittakers Choice – Charles Madden 19. 21st June 2001 – Joe Ram – Carrol O’Connor 20. 3rd August 2001 – Whittakers Choice – Lord Longford WINNER (2002) 21. 3rd January 2002 – One Foot in the Grave – Antonio Todde 22. 31st January 2002 – Drunkasaskunk – Jonathan Wilson 23. 9th February 2002 – Tim R – Princess Margaret 24. 5th May 2002 – Tim R/Ghoulish Guesses – Hugo Banzer 25. 10th June 2002 – Joe Ram – John Gotti WINNER (2003) 26. 3rd January 2003 – Ed K – Nap Botterell 27. 18th February 2003 – Otis you want a treat? – Lee Kriendler WINNER (2004) 28. 14th January 2004 – Otis You Want a Treat? – Tom Hurndall 29. 5th March 2004 – One Foot in the Grave – Joan Moll 30. 28th March 2004 – One Foot in the Grave/Whittakers Choice – Peter Ustinov 31. 30th March 2004 – OfitG/Whittakers/Big Iain/Deathlist.net – Alistair Cooke 32. April 25th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Estee Lauder 33. May 6th 2004 – Otis – Barney Kessel 34. May 14th 2004 – One Foot in the Grave – Charlotte Benkner 35. May 29th 2004 – Otis – Jack Rosenthal 36. August 9th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Fay Wray 37. September 24th 2004 – Otis – Francoise Sagan 38. December 30th 2004 – Deathlist.net – Artie Shaw – WINNER (2005) 39. January 2nd 2005 – Rude Kid – Cyril Fletcher 40. Juanuary 17th 2005 – Fallen Sparrow – Charlie Bell 41. July 20th 2005 – I Smell Dead People – James Doohan 42. November 15th 2005 – Fallen Sparrow – Robert Tisch WINNER (2006) 43. 3rd January 2006 – Go Fish – William Skate 44. 6th January 2006 – 20 teams – Lou Rawls 45. 14th January 2006 – Faster Pussycat – Shelley Winters 46. 17th January 2006 – Doffin Codgers – Clarence Ray Allen 47. 21st January 2006 – faster Pussycat – Ibrahim Rugova 48. 30th January 2006 – Go Fish – Wendy Wasserstein 49. 17th October 2006 – Meet your Maker – Ross Davidson WINNER (2007) 50. 2nd January 2007 - Death from Above/Go Fish - Charles Betty 51. 16th January 2007 – Godot/Mortal Wombat/Only Fools and Corpses/Caulkhead Coffin Kickers – tahe 2 dead Iraqis 52. 13th February 2007 – Death from Above – Ada Mason 53. 26th February 2007 - Dead Men Walkng/Eejit – Josie Grove 54. 24th April 2007 – No Noose is Good Noose – James Flliaggi 55. 7th July 2007 – Meet your maker – George fn Melly 56. 10th September 2007 – Stab in the Dark – Jane Wyman 57. 25th October 2007 – Meet your Maker – Mehmed Uzun WINNER (2008) 58. 2nd January 2008 – One Foot in the Grave – Yo-Sam Choi 59. 27th January 2008 – They Died and Left me in Charge – Suharto 60. 28th January 2008 – they’re Dead, Y’Know – Archbishop Christodoulos 61. 2nd March 2008 – Godots Waiting List/They’re Dead Y’Know/The Living End – Jeff Healey/Norm O’neill 62. 7th March 2008 – Godots Waiting List/They’re Dead Y’Know – Francis Pym 63. 15th March 2008 – The Living End – Mikey Dread 64. 24th March 2008 – Godot’s Waiting List – Richard Widmark 65. 17th April 2008 – The Living End – Danny Federici WINNER (2009) 66. 1st January 2009 – Going Underground – Claiborne Pell 67. 3rd January 2009 – Octopus of Odstock – Pat Hingle 68. 4th January 2009 – Heaven Knows Thy’re Miserable Now – Lei Clijsters 69. 18th August 2009 – Tonight matthew… - Robert Novak WINNER (2010) 70. 4th January 2010 – Rude Kid – Tsutomu Yamaguchi 71. 18th January 2010 – The Living End – Kate McGarrigle 72. 21st January 2010 – Misers – Paul Quarrington 73. 27th January 2010 – rude Kid – Zelda Rubinstein 74. 7th February 2010 – Canadian Paul – Willam Tenn 75. 14th February 2010 – Groblers Stiff Ones – Dick Francis 76. 2nd March 2010 – If I’m Spared… - Winston Churchill 77. 6th April 2010 – Groblrs Stiff Ones – Corin Redgrave 78. 19th August 2010 – Octopus of Odstock – Edwin Morgan 79. 31st August 2010 – Octopus of Odstock/Rot in Hell John – Laurent Fignon 80. 4th October 2010 – Octopus of Odstock – Norman Wisdom WINNER (2011) 81. 2nd January 2011 – Old Ma G’s Gravy Mix – Pete Postlethwaite 82. 4th January 2011 – Inigo I hope we win – Gerry Rafferty 83. 9th January 2011 – Daniel Faradays Notebook – Tom Lubbock 84. 15th January 2011 – The Final Showdown – Nat Lofthousee 85. 3rd February 2011 – The Living End – John Higgins Sr WINNER (2012) 86. 1st January 2012 – Better You Than Me/The Don/Finbarr/Gawn/George Lass/Girlfriend in a Coma/Romancing the Headstone/Importance of Being Umish/Unspiritualist/This Mortal Coil – Gary Ablett 87. 14th January 2012 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pals/The Living End – Lesley Strathie 88. 20th January 2012 – Gawn dead Planted/David Quanticks Showbiz Pals/The Living End– Etta James 89. 22nd January 2012 – ‘arry kiri – Joe Paterno 90. 31st January 2012 – ‘arry kiri/Octopus of Odstock – Bevalicqua 91. 9th February 2012 – Gawn dead Planted – Gifford 92. 16th February 2012 – Stardust – Gary Carter 93. 21st February 2012 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Rosoman 94. 20th March 2012 – ‘arry Kiri/The Living End – Jim Stynes 95. 25th March 2012 – The Living End – Bert Sugar WINNER (2013) 96. 1st January 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Christopher Martin-Jenkins 97. 9th January 2013 – Romancing the Headstone – Owen Brennan 98. 21st January 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Michael Winner 99. 11th March 2013 – The Living End – Lisa Lynch 100. 8th April 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Annette Funicello 101. 4th July 2013 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Bernie Nolan 102. 21st September 2013 – Octopus of Odstock – Jack Pardee qualifying obit found down back of sofa 103. 16th December 2013 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Ray Price WINNER (2014) 104. 1st January 2014 – The Good, the Bad and Cliff Richard – Dorothy Baldwin 105. 2nd January 2014 – Researched to Death/I’m a Celeb/This Mortal Coil/Toast of the Turf – Terry Biddlecombe 106. 3rd January 2014 –Shake, Rattle, Rll over – Phil Evrely 107. 11th January 2014 – Star Dust/Chemo Sabee/They’re Loving Angels Instead – Felix Glenny 108. 16th January 2014 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals- Steve Evans 109. 7th May 2014 – Drunkasaskunk – Katherine Crowe 110. 21st October 2014 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Chen Ziming WINNER (2015) 111. 1st January 2015 – Paint the Town Dead/Tentoesup – Mario Cuomo. 112. 2nd January 2015 – The Living End – Anas al-Liby 113. 4th January 2015 – Thomas Jefferson Survives/David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Stuart Scott 114. 13th January 2015 – Taking the Michael – Mike Marqusee 115. 9th February 2015 – Crazycarl – Ed Sabol 116. 27th February 2015 – Crazycarl and Thomas Jefferson Survives – Bob Benmosche 117. 8th April 2015 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Ion Trewin 118. 2nd September 2015 – The Living End – Denise Marshall obit 119. 25th December 2015 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Sadhana Shivdasani WINNER (2016) 120. 1st January 2016 – Shameless – S@r@h J0ne5 121. 15th January 2016 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Dan Haggry 122. 25th February 2016 – Shameless – Ch@rl0tte3 E@de5 123. 3rd March 2016 – Heading Nowhere – Martin Crowe 124. 14th March 2016 – The Living End - Peter Maxwell Davies 125. 24th March 2016 - Thomas Jefferson Survives – Johan Cruyff 126. 4th April 2016 – The Living End – Ronald Mulkearns 127. 8th July 2016 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pal/The Living End – Abdul Sattar Edhi 128. 16th July 2016 - -The Living End – Bonnie Brown 129. 23rd July 2016 – David QUantick’s Showbiz Pals – Kate Granger 130. 30th August 2016 – Heading Nowhere – Vera Caslavska 131. 2nd September 2016 – David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Rowena Kincaid (2017) 132. 1st January 2017 – Destination Eschaton – Derek Parfitt 133. 8th January 2017 – Carkers Convention – Peter Sarstedt 134. 15th January 2017 – Captain Hemlock’20/Dead Last?/Eternity Tours/Francis of Arse-Easy/Grim McGraw – Jimmy Snuka 135. 19th January 2017 – To Kill a Gabor Sister – Mark Sims 136. 6th February 2017 – Golden Slumbers – Joost van der Westhuizen 137. 17th October 2017 – Golden Slumbers and David Quantick’s Showbiz Pals – Gord Downie 138. 5th December 2017 – Golden Slumbers – King Michael of Romania WINNER (2018) 139. 2nd January 2018 – Robbinsdale High School Memorial Deathsquad – Emily Dole 140. 4th January 2018 – Heading Nowhere and Drollercoaster – Rayya elias 141. 17th January 2018 – Drollercoaster – Jessica Falkholt 142. 22nd April 2018 – Day in the Death - Jacqui Forster 143. 5th August 2018 – Thomas Jefferson Survives – Charlotte Rae 144. 21st November 2018 - Pity da Foolz - Devin Lima WINNER (2019) 145. 1st January 2019 - GUN Away - Tyler Trent 146. 25th January 2019 - Going Underground/Ethnic Cleansing - Fatima Ali 147. 1st February 2019 - Ethnic Cleansing - Andrew McGahan 148. 21st February 2019 - The Living End - Peter Tork 149. 3rd April 2019 - Going Underground - Bill Heine 150. 11th June 2019 - Grim Up North - Gabriele Grunewald 151. 16th July 2019 - Thomas Jefferson Survives/Pan Breed - Johnny Clegg 152. 20th August 2019 - TJS/Pan Breed/Heading Nowhere - Fred Rister 153. 18th September 2019 - Thomas Jefferson Survives - Fernando Ricksen WINNER (2020) 154. (PROvisional) 1st January 2020 - Smart Beta - David Stern Right, now that's done, bits and bobs can be edited later.

Much loved by horror fans for his many collaborations with Mario Bava and co.

For lack of anywhere suitable to put it, a snippet from Big Iain about the DDP in 2000 I found amusing: Oh hell, the whole thing off the Wayback Machine for the 2 folk interested below

Pre-internet, innit. Look at Bette Davis showing up post-death because none of them read the newspaper that day. So instead of research*, basically a lot of "not seen X on TV in some time" and so and so must be quite old now. Hence Clive Dunn. Anyhow remember that in the days before mass internet use, the points for Roy Rogers in the DDP only got added in 1999 when they found out. As in, died in July 1998, mega movie star Rogers. Miss the 10 seconds on the news or the wee paragraph in a newspaper and...well. *Yeah, I know...

In 2014, looking and sounding surprisingly well given everything. Btw, admin folk, going to fix the upload pictures thing? Ta.

Tom is however 85 in January, spent most of the 1970s and 80s drunk as a skunk, and is a lot frailer these days. If he is Deathlisty - I'm too biased - then 2019 might be time to start thinking about him tbh.

Listen to drol. There is 0% chance of Tom Baker actually dying and it not spreading like wildfire instantly. You wont be relying on 2 twitter people with less than 1000 followers combined.

So he went to the @Death Impends school of prediction then!

You can't knock good old second sight. Though, this chap wasn't in the Scavenger Hunt - he didn't actually win the Grammy, iirc.

October's usually when one of the lingering frail/ill folk go, so with that in mind, Stirling Moss.