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Looking like a possible EC landslide right now. Charon is somewhere going "called it".

Florida looks too close to call, but apparently it might not be too close to call because if its too close now then Clinton is likely to do well in the Democrat heavy areas yet to be counted. Apparently. Possibly.

East Coast is five hours behind us, so 7pm.

So many people have said that, I'm now convinced we'll have documentaries in 30 years time: "Clinton/Trump (delete as applicable) was a controversial character, but their eight year term changed America forever..."

It seems like she is already dead... Can I change her to Bea Wain or is it just bad luck to my team? Wheres the evidence she is dead.I cant find any? There was some posts looking into her in the Deadpool detective thread.

Former Glamorgan coach John Derrick has unspecified form of brain tumour, the club are fundraising for him.

Producers are easier. All classic era producers dead except Derrick Sherwin (b. 1936) and Philip Hinchcliffe (b. 1944).

I don't buy DWM, but from Classic Who: Warris Hussein, Richard Martin, Frank Cox, John Gorrie, the formidable Paddy Russell, Bill Sellars, Michael Imison, Michael Ferguson, John Davies, Tristan DeVere Cole, Timothy Combe, Michael E Briant, Derrick Goodwin, Ken Grieve, Paul Joyce, Matthew Robinson, Graeme Harper, Chris Clough, and Alan Wareing are still with us. Couldn't tell you their DOBs off the top of my head, though. There's a few one shot Davison era directors who might be still around, whose names escape me, but a bunch of them are dead now. Russell is circa 90, Sellers is mid-90s, rest in their 70s or 80s. Ken Grieve got drunk one night with Douglas Adams in a bar at the BBC, and woke up in West Germany.

A local case. The area around the graveyard is ridiculously unsafe to just let an eight year old out to play unsupervised - old gravestones, a hill with little barriers, a building site, the train line, a busy road and a motorway within 2 minutes walk.

Not been a great year for Radio 1 alumni, really.

Janet Reno was a household name in the 90s (seriously, she never seemed to be off the news), she was always going to get an obit from them.

The Man in Black, nine years ago... That's good news, I've always liked Jimmy Armfield... Jimmy Armfield 'recovering' from new bout of unspecified cancer.

He has a path to victory. Keep all of the states which have been Republican this century, then hold North Carolina and Indiana. Win in Iowa (as expected), win Ohio (also likely), manage to win Florida, then flip Colorado and New Hampshire, or one of the Democratic firewall. It has its issues, but its there. There's five key states to my mind: Florida, Ohio, N Carolina, Arizona and Nevada. Trump has to win all five. Clinton can lose all five and still win the Presidency (by keeping the same Democrat states that have voted for them since Bill, and adding New Hampshire, Colorado and New Mexico), but if she wins any of those five, it's almost certainly curtains, and if she wins Florida, it's done and dusted.

Or it could be preparing for another December 2013. Spade was 7 points behind OoO by this point in 2013, as Bruno Metsu dying had done him the world of good. Still, if you think that Joost, Farnham and Nobby Stiles will die in December, I'll have to begrudgingly accept your prediction.

Well, you know, if most of the top twenty had premature ejaculation, you can't be surprised if there's little action in the last few months.

He got better. It happens.

Mentioned a couple of times by your good self here: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/6052-british-science-fiction-series/?p=241081 I completely forgot about that post. Quite a few have since died in the last year.

John Carson has apparently died, one of those supporting actors who seemed to pop up in everything over the years from The Avengers to Hammer House of Horror to bloody Doctors. Confirmed by tweeters in the know. And yes, he was in Doctor Who - Snakedance, for those who care.

I usually do, but the option was missing. Just had a "more info" button which linked to Firefox Q&A. Dunno if it was linked to the Avast I found on my laptop all of a sudden, but I uninstalled that and the forums returned soon after.

Ah good, Firefox and Chrome aren't blocking Deathlist anymore - that was a scary...twelve hours or so.

And those who know history are condemned to watch idiots repeat it.

In 1962 (technically 1961, but within that time period), Tories felt they had longer to fix the economy as, among many issues, Gaitskell was turning into a bit of a liability for his party, in terms of electability. It wasn't expected that: the Labour leader would suddenly fall ill from lupus in 1963 that his anointed successor would predecease him. that the Deputy leader would fail to be elected in this manner due to his vices and bullying nature - this was forseeable - but that Callaghan would also run, thus splitting the right of the party, and allowing a "left centrist" to sneak through. that someone no one trusted in the party would actually become Labour leader. that, to the shock of all, he was actually really good at it, and quick at learning it too. that, at the same time, Harold MacMilan would need to resign, due to his misdiagnosis of terminal cancer - he lived until 1986. that MacMillan would deliberately hobble the "best man" for the job in revenge for leaking the Night of the Long Knives. that the press favourite would hobble his own chances with hubris. that the Tory party would then elect a likeable but entirely unelectable old man in Mac's place. that the Defence Secretary was shagging a call girl, and this would errupt into a long lasting scandal that the economy would dip in 1962-3, leaving the party unwilling to go before the end of the 5th year. that the US President would get shot. And so on. A long way of making my point - events have a habit of making silly buggers out of long plans in politics. Each time in post war history a party has had an option to go to the polls early, and turned it down, they have lost office. Even when, in the case of some, they thought they had a demoralised and unelectable opposition at that time period. We can't assume the economy will be the same, or better, by then, and we can't assume Jeremy Corbyn will be leader of the opposition. His health might fail, he might get fed up with the rebels, he might find a more electable protege - or many other reasons. And his replacement might be as surprisingly good at the whole job and galvanising people, as unsuspected as Wilson was in the early 60s. But in general, those who go "oh it happened before, but I can't see a whole bunch of unfortunate events happen to ME" tend to be those who suddenly find a whole bunch of unfortunate events happening to them.

Former Mott the Hoople star Mick Ralphs in hospital after stroke.

As things stand, she wins in 2020. However, events... Brown thought he'd have a better chance of winning in 2010. As, perhaps equally as pertinently, did Harold MacMillan in 1962 when up against Gaitskell.

Valerie Hunter invented the disposable nappy and, as such, is practically a god among those who look after young kids.