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I brought her into the DL conscious, but she's a unique pick for the Dames theme team this year, which isn't me. Another DDP hit brought to you by BBC4, where she said in 2019 that her cancer was an on-going issue.

Forum favourite (for some of us), the don of psephology, Sir David Butler, has made it to his 98th birthday!

Hall got out in 2015 - for his birthday in fact. Harris was in jail for about 2 years tops. Gary Glitter is still in jail (he went down for actually raping kids though) though he could be up for parole soon. Freddie Starr told off for being a groper, died. Dave Lee Travis found guilty of one count of groping someone, career ended as a result. Fred Talbot released in 2019. Ray Teret died last year. Bill Roache, Paul Gambaccini, Cliff Richard, Neil Fox, all publicly named as suspects but later cleared. (Roache went to court.)

It's not even on his Wiki, it's a "simple Wiki" page. And iirc Hall has been out of jail since 2015 or 2016?

tbh I'm ready to vote these fuckers out ASAP.

You of all people finding a story about shagging bizarre made me guffaw so loudly I nearly choked on my drink!

Understandable. Whenever I wake up to dozens and dozens of new notifications I think: "Fuck sake, what's TQR said now?"

Iirc Ping doesn't like Xinping much? He could have died five years ago and he'd still attend.

I've got some shocking news from the future for you: They're not going to drop Harry Belafonte.

Think that's 10/50 now, so nowhere near winning yet, but... what a fucking call that was in 2019. I'd forgotten it!

I remember watching Tutti Frutti... on BBC when they repeated it during the lockdown! Gets a bit grim. Remember 2016, BBC put out their Memoriam on the 23rd December, within hours Piers Sellers and Rick Parfitt had died, Liz Smith was in hospital (died the next day) and Carrie Fisher had her heart attack. To be followed by Debbie Reynolds and George Michael within days. The mother of all jinxes.

My shortlist for my interesting oldies theme team is way too long, so here's some interesting old names guaranteed to obit when they go. Colin Wyatt - The creator of the Poddington Peas will be 84 next year. Peter Sasdy - born 1935, director of The Stone Tape and countless other Guardian favourites. Sir William Heseltine - born 1930, former secretary to the Queen. Sir Frank Bowling - born 1934, acclaimed artist who is now in very frail health. Barry McGuire - born 1935, singer/songwriter, wrote Eve of Destruction, apparently in poor health these days. More to follow before Hogmanay. All of them the ideal gift for a DDPer struggling to fill out spaces 18-20 on their teams!

Yes, since 2011! Run by a forum veteran.

Super Gran could be worth a shout. And everyone's favourite living suffragette, Glynis Johns, of course.

I am reliable told multiple times over that Keeping up Appearances was huge on PBS in the 90s/00s. I was legit surprised to hear this every time, but Routledge apparently has some recognisability internationally. Anyhow, it's a UK based list. We don't all complain the Italian deathlist is full of random Rome based cardinals and Italian comics! Skipping Routledge who feels due a call up any time, Vera Miles and Joan Plowright are also possible newcomers. Maybe Claire Bloom, Rita Moreno, but it feels a bit early for them. Younger names who might get the "they're still alive somehow" Ginger Baker bump to the main list are Grace Slick and Julie Goodyear. Oh and Jane Fonda seems so much like the type of name who gets on the DL, doesn't make the Drop 40, everyone mocks the choice, and then she suddenly snuffs it in November 2023.

Nah, she never did that. She threw her closest ally under the bus FIVE weeks into the job.

My guess. Kissinger, Pele or Jimmy Carter.

Indeed, though I was thinking of ailing Hitchcock actresses.

Zarah Sultana easily won reselection in her constituency, mind you, which tells you Sam Tarry was especially shite. Virendra Sharma was going to face one in 2019 but the election saved him.

Aye, but I mean at current Date of Birth, if she was 66 today, her DOB would still be in the top ten youngest.

1929, 1930 and 1934 are small now but all feel like they could have produced a dozen hits each by the end of this decade tbh. Helen Rollason still being in the top 10 youngest DL successes over 20 years later is quite sobering.

Not a blonde, but Jean Marsh is in Frenzy, too.

As requested in PM by @gcreptile earlier when we couldn't find it on the forum. DL hits by year of birth 1890 – Rose Kennedy 1893 – Andres Segovia 1894 – Jim Joel 1896 – George Burns, Kitty Godfree 1898 – Ninette de Valois, Hastings Banda (circa) 1899 – Lord Denning 1900 – The Queen Mum 1901 – Princess Alice, Barbara Cartland, Dilys Powell, Marlene Dietrich 1902 – Brooke Astor, Leni Riefenstahl, Strom Thurmond, W Clement Stone, Gene Sarazen 1903 – Bob Hope, Alec Douglas-Home, 1904 – John Gielgud, Deng Xiaoping, Harold Larwood, Salvador Dali 1905 – Charles Lane, Stanley Kunitz, Max Schmeling, Joe Bonanno, Lord Longford, Helen Wills Moody, Greta Garbo 1906 – Albert Hoffman, Billy Wilder, Brother Theodore, Bunny Austin, Lew Grade, Joan Hickson, Catherine Cookson 1907 – Oscar Niemeyer, Sister Lucia, Fay Wray, Katharine Hepburn, Quintin Hogg, EW Swanton, Burgess Meredith 1908 – Claude Levi-Strauss, Simon Wiesenthal, John Mills, Henri Cartier-Bresson, Estee Lauder, Alastair Cooke, Edward Teller, Lionel Hampton, Milton Berle, Don Bradman, Quentin Crisp, Jimmy Stewart, Dan Maskell 1909 – Ernest Gallo, Queen Juliana of the Netherlands, Elia Kazan, Hardy Amies, Douglas Fairbanks Jr 1910 – Luise Rainer, Artie Shaw, Mary Whitehouse, William Hanna, Mother Teresa, Jacques Costeau 1911 – Joseph Barbera, Gretchen Franklin, Lord Scarman, Ronald Reagan, Thora Hird, Roy Rogers, Ginger Rogers, Terry-Thomas 1912 – Karl Malden, Lady Bird Johnson, Milton Freidman, Byron Nelson, Jim Callaghan, Sam Snead, Chuck Jones, Kim il-Sung, Erich Honecker, Brian Johnston 1913 – Erich Priebke, Tony Martin, Michael Foot, Mark Felt, Bill Deedes, Gerald Ford, Rosa Parks, Stanley Kramer, Victor Mature, Burt Lancaster, Richard Nixon 1914 – Chapman Pincher, Anna Wing, Richard Widmark, Deryck Guyler, Joe DiMaggio, William Burroughs, Jackie Mann 1915 – Herman Wouk, David Rockefeller, Eli Wallach, Yitzhak Shamir, Harry Morgan, Norman Wisdom, Augusto Pinochet, John Profumo, Red Adair, Denis Thatcher, Stanley Matthews, Don Budge, Frank Sinatra 1916 – Olivia de Havilland, Kirk Douglas, Joao Havelange, Gough Whitlam, Michael Gough, Walter Cronkite, PW Botha, Ted Heath, Gregory Peck, Francois Mitterand 1917 – Vera Lynn, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Denis Healey, Kirk Kerkorian, Herbert Lom, Vincent O’Brien, Arthur C Clarke, Caspar Weinberger, Dean Martin 1918 – Rev Billy Graham, Helmut Schmidt, Peter O’Sullevan, Nelson Mandela, Patty Andrews, Betty Ford, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Ingmar Bergman, Kurt Waldheim, Spike Milligan 1919 – Lord Carrington, Cliff Michelmore, Al Molinaro, Mikhail Kalashnikov, Dino de Laurentiis, JD Salinger, Ludovic Kennedy, Edmund Hillary, Ian Smith, Andreas Papandreou 1920 – George Schultz, Captain Tom Moore, Javier Perez de Cuellar, Richard Adams, Maureen O’Hara, PD James, Mickey Rooney, Clive Dunn, Ray Bradbury, John Demjanjuk, James Doohan, Pope John Paul II, Walter Mathau, Alf Ramsey, Timothy Leary 1921 – Prince Philip, King Michael of Romania, Jake LaMotta, Peter Sallis, Liz Smith, Nancy Reagan, Abe Vigoda, Jesse Helms, Suharto, Rodney Dangerfield, Peter Ustinov, Harry Secombe, Sugar Ray Robinson 1922 – Betty White, Pierre Cardin, Carl Reiner, Doris Day, Stan Lee, Denis Norden, Boutros Boutros-Ghali, Patrick Macnee, Christopher Lee, Sid Caesar, Blake Edwards, Francis Pym, Charles Schulz, Telly Savalas 1923 – Bob Dole, Murray Walker, Eric Sykes, Charlton Heston, Aaron Spelling, Al Lewis, Michael Havers 1924 – Daniel Arap Moi, Tony Britton, Robert Mugabe, George HW Bush, Charles Aznavour, Lauren Bacall, William Rehnquist 1925 – Angela Lansbury, Bill Gates Sr, Honor Blackman, Barbara Bush, George Cole, BB King, Margaret Thatcher, Charles Haughey, Idi Amin, Ernie Wise, Pol Pot 1926 – Queen Elizabeth II, Valery Giscard D’Estaing, Hugh Hefner, Jerry Lewis, Fidel Castro, Ian Paisley, George Melly 1927 – June Brown, Sidney Poitier, Jerry Stiller, Sam Simon, Bhumibol Adulyadej, Paul Eddington 1928 – Estelle Harris, Walter Mondale, Hosni Mubarak, Fats Domino, Bruce Forsyth, John Forbes Nash, Cyril Smith, Bo Diddley, James Earl Ray 1929 – Stirling Moss, Bob Hawke, Ronnie Biggs, Audrey Hepburn 1930 – Jean-Luc Godard, Harold Pinter, Mobutu Sese Seko 1931 – Mikhail Gorbachev, Tony Booth, Leonard Nimoy, Robert Novak, Les Dawson 1932 – Loretta Lynn, Jacques Chirac, Casey Kasem, Peter O’Toole, Elizabeth Taylor, Ted Kennedy, Johnny Cash, Jeffrey Bernard, Roy Castle 1933 – Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Bobby Robson, Lou Rawls 1934 – John Noakes, Diana Wynne Jones, Sydney Pollack, Bill Bixby 1935 – Michael Winner, Dudley Moore, King Hussein 1936 – John McCain, Glen Campbell, Mary Tyler Moore, Dennis Hopper, Levi Stubbs, Jill Ireland 1937 – Abdelaziz Bouteflika, John Edrich, Gordon Banks 1938 – Ian Brady, Etta James, Glyn Worsnip, Rudolf Nureyev 1939 – Clive James, Ginger Baker, Valerie Harper, Liz Dawn 1940 – Jimmy Greaves, Alex Trebek, John McCririck, Richard Pryor 1941 – Reg Presley, Bill Tarmey, Kim jong-il 1942 – Frank Williams, Nobby Stiles, Terry Jones, Stephen Hawking, Muhammad Ali, Tammy Faye Messner, Ian Dury, Derek Jarman, Ray Moore 1943 – Robert Durst, Henry Cecil, Wendy Richard, Arthur Ashe 1944 – Kenny Everett 1946 – Peter Sutcliffe, Chris Woodhead, Dai Llewellyn 1947 – Tessa Jowell, Gerry Rafferty, Warren Zevon 1948 – Susan Atkins, 1949 – Robin Gibb, John Curry 1950 – Genesis P-orridge, Barry Sheene, Simon Cadell 1951 – Rush Limbaugh, Tim Gullikson 1952 – Al Megrahi, Simon MacCorkindale, Patrick Swayze 1953 – Leon Spinks, Johnny Clegg, John Diamond 1954 – Hugo Chavez 1955 – Sam Simon 1956 – Bill Turnbull, Helen Rollason 1957 – Mark E Smith 1960 – Bernie Nolan, Laurent Fignon 1962 – Martin Crowe 1963 – Errol Christie 1964 – Leah Bracknell, Gord Downie 1971 – Joost van der Westhuizen

I've always taken it as the order they were agreed to at the meeting/drinking session. Hence the obvious returning names tend to be near the top, and the oddball newcomers in the 40-50 range. Either that or it's just a bit of fun for Grim. Who knows? (Well, he does, and so do a few others but they ain't saying! Hah)

Spread beyond its original spread to the lungs?