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    The 2022 Crowdsourced Deathlist

    ANNUS MORTIS 17/50 8th September 2022 Calm on the seas, and silver sleep, And waves that sway themselves in rest, And dead calm in that noble breast Which heaves but with the heaving deep. Alfred, Lord Tennyson's In Memoriam Some thought it would never happen. The chances of an asteroid wiping out all life on Earth seemed more likely. Lord Lucan showing up for a Cup of tea. Boris Johnson personally taking the blame for anything. Surely, like Tithonus on a dead planet, immortality would pull through, at the quiet limits of the world? But, no. Nary Tithonus but, like all Titans of history, eventually all are Ozymandias. Queen Elizabeth the Second, the corgi loving British head of state since 1952, has died, at the age of 96. The Queen was born in 1926, eldest child of the decent but ordinary spare to the throne, Prince Albert. (It's a very common name for royals, in line with Queen Victoria's genuinely popular other half, but none of them have used it as their regnal name, again on her request.) The future Queen would be destined to live the life of Harry, with her uncle the King, until events in 1936. There, the King (George V) died, and his son Edward VIII, became King. Edward's deepest desire, when not bullying his disabled younger brother, was to marry his Hitler sympathising American divorcee wife, Wallis Simpson. The British establishment were shocked by this, with even then Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin - a man scared of his own shadow - pushing the King to pick his sex life or the monarchy. Edward promptly abdicated and was later shoved off to some island when he kept trying to make peace with the Nazis during World War Two. This meant Prince Albert became the new King George VI, and Princess Elizabeth, at the age of 10, was suddenly heir to the throne. This meant her pre-planned life of Harry was the domain of her younger sister Margaret, who promptly travelled the world, shagged gangsters and was undefeated at bar room drinking contests. Instead, Elizabeth (after driving ambulances in WW2), married a childhood friend called Philip (you might remember him) and prepared for the eventual job of being Queen. It was during this time she learnt the attribute which would endear her to the public time and again, of showing up after war bombings and seemingly genuinely sympathetic and her ability to invoke an "we're all in this together" when Buckingham Palace was hit. This line was summed up by the Queen Mother, when asked to evacuate her children: "I won't eave London without the children, the children won't leave without their dad, the King will never leave..." She became Queen in 1952, when her father, whose health had never been the greatest, died of cancer. Elizabeth (and her formidable mother) blamed the abdication for shortening her dad's life, and she was absolute in her belief she would reign until the Grim Reaper called full time. Over the next 70 years, she saw 15 Prime Ministers come and go, as well as 13 US Presidents,8 Russian Premiers, 7 Popes and 5 Sex Pistols. In the 1990s, all of her children got divorced, and Windsor Castle went up in flames in what she later referred to as her Annus Horriblis. Later in 1997, when a famous lady died by speeding in a car and not wearing a seatbelt, the press tried to turn the story of "doting grandmother looks after grieving grandsons" into one of "heartless Queen mocks nation's princess", but in her usual apt way, the Queen turned that all on its head, by appearing in public, looking sad and expressing her sympathy. (Look at the aftermath of Grenfell, in hardly the most royalist friendly territory in London, where the Queen showing up to express sympathy was compared with Theresa May's handling of the disaster.) She got on with most of her Prime Ministers, especially the great war leader Winston Churchill and the great reformer Harold Wilson, the latter of whom she held special affection for. Her quarrels with Margaret Thatcher were also legendary, through secondary sources, with Andrew Neil claiming Thatcher said the problem with Her Majesty was she was a "bloody social democrat"! But, the thing about the Queen is, she was very discrete. Prime Ministers will go on record saying how invaluable she was, but are unable to give examples. Maybe she pushed Wilson to decriminilizing homosexuality with Wilson, maybe she was braying for the Iraq War with Blair, we're unlikely to ever know. Unless you are inherently unfit for Office and leak to the press that the Queen was a Remainer in 2014. Why is it that when we think of incompetence, David Cameron always comes up? The main legacy of her tenure is the swift decolonisation of the British Empire, which had started under her father but gained significant pace in the 1950s and 1960s. Numerous gay celebrities cited being defended by the Queen when government ministers tried to censor them in the 1950s (but on the flipside, we know there were employment issues for non-whites at the Palace too). We do know, thanks to leaky governments, that she was pro-sanctions on South Africa, that she was opposed to the state visit of the Ceaucescus (bet she loved hosting Donald Trump then), and that she thought Princess Diana was a bit of a tit. Oh, and she bloody loved dogs. Given her role in history, and the vast number of people she'd met and discussed events with, the Queen would have written the most fascinating memoirs. But then she wouldn't have been the Queen. Of those who aren't ardent royalists, most have taken a respectful stance, bar your odd drunken Celtic fans or boisterous American Meghan drama lovers. We'll be taking the same stance here. By the standards of monarchs, Elizabeth II was one of the better ones. By the standards of nearly all of her predecessors in the role as British, England and Scotland monarchs, she was a class apart. But more than that, she was a living signpost of British society, an ever present to most of the population. Her popularity ratings made even people like Blair and Thatcher seem like Jeremy Corbyn by comparison. Millions are gutted today, understandably so, and for some of us, there is a melancholy in the symbolism that all hopes for Titanic immortality are as much as myth as Tithonus was, and our elder family members are getting up in age, also. We'll remember her final act as Queen, grimly holding onto life so she could outlast Boris Johnson's Premiership.
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    Michael Heseltine

    He's clearer older than he was (in looks and movement) but still mentally sharp and looking good compared to most men on the verge of 90. I think he'll be a DL regular, but once Hurd, Lawson and yer cuddly uncle (TM) go first.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Hah, blame the Nazi King for that. Imagined scene of the 1930s Prince "not a King or heir" George - Elizabeth, as someone nowhere near the line of succession, you'll be living a life of Harry. 8 year old future Queen - Huh? Prince George (VI) - Don't worry, that joke is going to be hilarious in 80 years time.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    First Nicholas Witchell, now Gyles Brandreth. Bet the Queen's glad she's not watching this! John Major looked well, mind you.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Oh I thought it was just an interesting fact. She started at the bottom of the BBC news department and worked her way up, so no rushing into a top job through dad work connections.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Clive Myrie must be on this forum, he immediately cut to John Smith's daughter Sarah in Edinburgh to talk about Scotland and Sturgeon's reaction!
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    End of an era. RIP, Queen Liz.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    With absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back it up, I just assumed Philip chose it to take the piss!
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Going back to the King Bhumibol thread... Oh hey, it's the Ghost of @YoungWillz Past! But anyhow, the circus around that lasted 3 days.
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    Time Added

    Grim news for the great player Marcus Stewart (a stalwart of the lower leagues, and Sunderland, earlier this century), as I'm afraid he's been diagnosed with ALS aged 49.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Aww, this would have been Cat in his element.
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    Derby Dead Pool 2022

    You mean we're not going to get a LOCALS MOURN LAIRD, AND ALSO QUEEN headline?
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Unpopular opinion but I think Charles will be a dull but popular King overall. When his time comes...
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    The thread pages are rising impressively given how treacley the forum is.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Yes but tbf, understandably so!
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    More important than Prince Andrew? Feck, that's all of DL accounted for!
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Harry rushing up to join the family at Balmoral. Yes, this is it. Bloody hell.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Forums like treacle now. Reptile wont get his 300 pages.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Christ, imagine the obits read "after a long battle with cancer". Punchline of the century for Crem in that case. (Already focus grouped this joke on @Death Impends and nicked her punchline tbh)
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    Give it a few hours! Dickie Arbiter dragged out of the mothballs for BBC audio interview.
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    Liz Truss

    Energy bill cap at £2500 (so circa £600 above what folk have already been struggling with), no clear word on how it will be paid for, though not by taxation so presumably by cuts or heavy borrowing. I have my doubts this is the vote winner Crem promised us.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    I am pretty sure she won't. The abdication of the Nazi in 1936 she blames for the swift death of her dad. She'll lose the throne through death alone. As will then Charles.
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    That's the first time a bloody joke has been ninja'd!
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    Queen Elizabeth II

    I'm nearly 60 years younger than her maj and the idea of having to be nice to Boris Johnson and Liz Truss in the same afternoon sounds knackering to me!
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