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Just means we'll lose the next one 8-0 to balance it out on current form...

Hein, There is a lot of merit to the 'be the change you want to see' approach but you may find having food in your fridge and a roof over your head equally satisfying. Morals are for those who can afford them. AbbyGN.

That post from LFN sums up what i like about this site, on most others the respondent would simply have posted 'EGN is a cunt'...

The issue is one of free speech versus libel/defamation. To say that someone who has been accused of a crime is an 'alleged something' is factually accurate and the right to discuss such matters is protected by article 10 the Human Rights Act, which covers freedom of expression. What CAN BE a crime and/or a civil matter is libel/defamation. If i was to say '[insert wholesome celebrity name here] is an nonce, allegedly' when said celebrity had never been accused publicly of such a crime by a credible source, I would potentially be libelling them. The use of the caveat 'allegedly' in that context would not excuse my accusation, because nobody had actually alleged it. Of late, there is something of a fashion for celebrities to use S.5 of the Public Order Act to claim that such libel is causing them harassment, alarm or distress. Libel is a civil matter, pursued by the individual usually for compensation to balance the defamation caused to a person's reputation, while S.5 is a criminal matter pursued by the police with a view to a criminal conviction. Lily Allen was among the first, i believe, when she complained to the police about a young Scottish soldier making a comment about her adopting a black baby on twitter. However, S.5 can equally be applied to any post on an internet site made by a person subject to the law of England and Wales which could cause a person harrassment, alarm or distress. Were you to respond to this with 'EGN is a cunt', i would have as much right in law to complain to the police about that as Mr Clifford has to complain about my post. Moreso in fact, given that I have never been accused of being a cunt in the national press. With regard Mr Clifford getting a fair trial, I'm afraid celebrities have been trying that yarn for years. The general ruling is that a jury should be representative of society (IE: Not made up specifically of people who have or havent heard of the sterling work Mr Clifford does on behalf of celebrities everywhere) but where the allegation has been made widely, I am fairly certain a selection process can be put in place to use jurors unaware of the press coverage of the offence. You'd be amazed at how little attention some people pay the sordid celebrity world. My mum, for one couldn't tell you who Max clifford is/was or what he had been accused of.

Two people were very lucky not to have been thrown inside yesterday for "outing" a Bulger killer. Id suggest, in the current climate, using the word "alleged" to cover your arse will not work, fuck, YOU have suggested that Clifford is a nonce and, irrespective of whether you are merely passing on heresay or not, it will make no fucking difference whatsoever. You are a bloody fool if you think you are untouchable. Ive not heard any such allegation and suggesting otherwise could be prejudicial to any trial. They could really throw the book at you for that. Well done. Just to clarify the following: 1) Max Clifford has been charged following an allegation that he had non-consensual sex with an underage girl. 2) An established colloquial term for a person who has non-consensual sex with an underage girl is a 'Nonce'. Therefore, it is perfectly correct and reasonable to state that Max Clifford is an alleged nonce. There's no heresay involved at all, as its a matter of public record that he has been charged with an offence. I'm not calling him anything he isn't. The Jamie Bulger killer 'outers' were nearly jailed not for anything they said about the two men convicted of murder, but for breaching a condition set by the court that the two cannot be identified. Thats contempt of court, not a libel issue. However, out of respect for your standing on the site I will happily edit the comment should you so wish.

I was suggesting more her children's arses, to be honest. I don't think her slack, well reemed bunghole would have held much attraction for a nonce like Clifford*. *is alleged to be

Fucking hell, now we know how Kerry Katona was paying Clifford for his services for all those years when she was meant to be skint. Mum of the year? My arse...

Among the crowing of the lefties, may i say how sad I am at the passing of the best Prime Minister this country has ever had. And i sincerely hope they dont cremate her, as the lady's not for burning.

Anyway, a woman goes to the doctor complaining of a sore stomach. After a short examination, the doctor pops back to his desk, consults a textbook and says @well, madam, I hope you like changing nappies'. The woman, delighted, screams 'Oh my god, Doctor, do you mean it? I'm pregnant?' The dpctor, straightfaced, repies 'No, you have bowel cancer'. Boom boom.

Yes, apparently Fort are better when we have our keeper sent off and a key player injured!

Apparently our goal was a peach. Still, the good ones don't count double. Here is a link to the Highland League table. Yes. We're bottom.

About a month ago i was at a Chris Brookmyre signing and jokingly asked him whether he was considering releasing his upcoming Sci Fi works (of which Bedlam is the first) as Christopher M Brookmyre. Rather worryingly, he could now actually find himself as Scotland's most high profile Sci Fi writer, which given the standard of Bedlam (far from his best work, in fact its not even his best Sci Fi work) would be something of a travesty. Still, if anyone is a collector, Bank's early editions are still reasonably priced if you want to start buying them up. A signed copy of the book that is to be his last, 'The Quarry', should go for a fair bit once its released as he wont be doing a signing tour in support of it.

http://www.thepresidency.gov.za/pebble.asp?relid=15146 The 'big announcement' was that he's feeling a bit better. Maybe. Kind of.

5 goals past us in each of the last 3 matches? At least we're consistent.

Dave. I sincerely hope you were telling the truth about your abilities. It gives me hope to know someone with that level of suction exists. I think if there really was a God, that ability would be the next evolutionary leap.

And you were kidding about the BJs, right?

Hipster, lefty, student twats. Some delightful young man on a Scottish Independence FB page just decided to tell me that Scotland could cut its military spending if it got independence because: "The military hasn't done anything usefull in a long time, and has taken part in major attrocities." I replied thusly: "I had prepared a reasoned rebuttal of your points, but when i spotted this i deleted it. You, sir, are alive and free to have your silly little referendum specifically because the British Military has been very f**king useful indeed in the last 100 years. How f**king dare some scummy little unwashed student t**t who's barely left his mothers c**t long enough to appreciate his own existence presume to judge their work. You get to wear your poncey f**king hat and pose with your stupid glasses and pipe (his profile pic is 'zany') because men and women younger and better than you gave their lives to defend your right to do it. Let me know when you have achieved something so 'useful' with your life but until that time i shant be giving you the time of day. You are a child, a molly coddled little child, who will (i hope) one day look upon the naivete you have displayed in this 'debate' and cringe. You disgust me." Felt better. It wont change his attitude, but bottling up that kind of hate cant be good for you...

In a similar vein, The High Numbers underwent a rebranding after they struggled to find fame and got sick of promoters asking 'The Who?' on hearing the unfamiliar name... (Wikipedia has a different story, but i'm sure i read this version in a Townshend interview or in the sleeve notes to '30 years maximum RnB', so i'm sticking with it...)

Will ronnie be there ? Maybe he can help carry the coffin . You're joking right? He's been dodging coffins for nearly 20 years, he's not about to start carrying them now...

Hmmm, the left wing do two things well; music and soap. If i'm having a bath i'm listening to Morrisey or Pearl Jam and using some right-on Lush bubble bath. For running a country however...

There are some crimes (noncing, for example) where an individual will either a ) always be a threat or b ) if genuinely reformed, should be unable to live with themselves. For these crimes we should save ourselves some money and them some anguish and euthanise them. Of course, such euthanasia would have to be DL exempt...

I have a single hit. And it was a REALLY obvious one. I'd love to say its fun just to be a part of it but goddamnit, my DL game is weak.

Oh Hugo, you little tease, about time. And what a stonking 1st quarter for the DL! Triples all round!

Wick 1 - 0 Fort. Not bad, seeing as they were expecting a cricket score from the league leaders. Followers of the club can get updates on their official Facebook page here.

@Phantom: Not at all, i'm sure that some people (and i suspect TMIB is among them) thoroughly enjoyed the Beatles music, 'got' the message and took time to appreciate the subtle nuances of Mr Lennon and Mr McCartney's songwriting. I personally don't 'get it'. The problem is that people fete the Beatles as 'the most influential band of eVar', whereas I'd argue their popularity is based on marketing and mass-hysteria rather than musical merit. I personally think Nick Cave is the most talented singer and songwriter i have ever heard and were i to be stuck with one album for ever and ever, his greatest hits would be it. I am able, however, to see past my own fanaticism and understand that he will never be the most popular, the most influential or the best selling purely because he is fucking weird and his music has limited appeal outside those of us cursed with dark thoughts and a lack of faith in humanity. Based on their early musical output, The Beatles should have been the same, an aquired taste appreciated by the few , but the fact that they were four young scousers willing to whore themselves for fame and their 'marketability' meant people who didn't even like, nor could possibly understand, the music were buying it by the bucketload in order to 'fit in' with what society was telling them was cool. They weren't the best musicians in their own clothes and if you want great songwriting from that period you could have chucked a dart in a Camden pub and hit better lyricists than Lennon and McCartney but somehow they were outselling far more traditionally appealing bands and became a meat grinder of crap pop 'product' for consumption by the masses. I think Crowleyism best sums up my musical appreciation theory 'Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law'. If you like it, buy it regardless of popularity but if you don't, you're a twat if you do. The Beatles were cursed by too many twats.