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Deborah Watling who played assistant Victoria in Doctor Who has died aged 69. http://www.clactonandfrintongazette.co.uk/news/15426589.Actress_Deborah_Watling__who_played_Doctor_Who_s_second_assistant__has_died__aged_69/ RIP. Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Watling IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0914449/

Now there's a source, yes! http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/tributes-to-giant-of-scots-law-lord-mccluskey-1-4509947

Golfer Peter Thomson (b. 1929). Just heard on Open coverage he's not too well, apparently.

On that note, can anyone read the whole of Red's Obit in the Telegraph and see if it mentions Sonny's death? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2017/07/20/red-west-school-friend-elvis-presley-obituary/

Round Up #18 (Only Time We Love Johnny Foreigner Is When They Die Special) Sergeanne Golon: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7873-foreign-personalities-from-stage-screen-politics-and-life/?do=findComment&comment=316193 (Carried Over) Telegraph Obit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2017/07/23/anne-golon-author-angelique-novels-obituary/ Jagraj Singh: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/3090-deadio-times/?do=findComment&comment=316617 Telegraph Death Notice: http://announcements.telegraph.co.uk/deaths/216103/singh Sonny West: From The List of the Lost Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4715764/Actor-Red-West-longtime-Elvis-confidant-dies.html John Kundla: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/265-magic-johnson-and-other-basketball-players/?do=findComment&comment=317055 (Mail Obit In Link) John Wraw: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/5605-from-cleric-to-relic/?do=findComment&comment=317167 Telegraph Obit: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2017/08/01/right-reverend-john-wraw-obituary/ Gretel Bergmann: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7247-male-or-shemale/?do=findComment&comment=317177 The Times Obit: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/obituary-margaret-bergmann-lambert-b00sghqdr Barbara Marx: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/9034-the-dead-of-2017/?do=findComment&comment=317182 Express Obit: http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/832990/Barbara-Sinatra-Frank-Sinatra-wife-dead-age-90 Fritz Hellwig: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/8294-the-100-club/?do=findComment&comment=317320 Awaiting Obit. June Foray: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7202-voice-actors/?do=findComment&comment=317396 Express Obit: http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/833620/June-Foray-dead-age-99-voice-actress-dies-Rocky-and-Bullwinkle-Looney-Tunes-animation Jeanne Moreau: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/7873-foreign-personalities-from-stage-screen-politics-and-life/?do=findComment&comment=317878 BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40774985 Ross Blair: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/6254-the-fringes-of-famefamily-of-the-famous/?do=findComment&comment=318001 (Sun Obit In Link) Jerome Golmard: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/1596-tennis-players/?do=findComment&comment=318007 Daily Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4750296/Former-French-tennis-player-Jerome-Golmard-dies-43.html Ara Parseghian: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/6479-hospitalised/?do=findComment&comment=318147 Daily Mail Obit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4753566/Ara-Parseghian-won-2-titles-Notre-Dame-died-94.html Giovanni Benedetti: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/5605-from-cleric-to-relic/?do=findComment&comment=318249 Awaiting Obit. Hywel Bennett: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/2384-mollie-sugden-et-al/?do=findComment&comment=318251 BBC Obit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40814843 Robert Hardy: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/8599-robert-hardy/?do=findComment&comment=318278 (BBC Obit In Link) Luigi Baldan: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/9009-derby-dead-pool-2017/?do=findComment&comment=318286 Awaiting Obit. Edward Allcard: https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/1777-hilary-lister-other-sailing-nutjobs/?do=findComment&comment=318463 (Times Death Notice In Link)

Reportedly dead. https://www.facebook.com/Everythings13.BasicsofSikhi/posts/1493047317399997

Hmm. John McCluskey, Baron McCluskey is the designation of the man who retired from the House of Lords on 1 March. Misspelling, perhaps?

Report of the death of Lord McCluskey aged 88. https://twitter.com/NiallMccluskey/status/888045803926900736 Former Solicitor-General for Scotland and Judge of the Supreme Courts. Awaiting usual confirmations.

Ara Parseghian, infection: http://www.wndu.com/content/sports/Legendary-Notre-Dame-football-coach-Parseghian-recovering-from-infection-435215653.html Definitely not born in 1973!

Bobby Taylor, bandmate of Tommy Chong in Bobby Taylor and The Vancouvers and first producer for The Jackson 5, reportedly diagnosed with throat cancer. https://www.soultracks.com/story-bobby-taylor-ailing

Wilfried Scheuz, who sang for Austria in the 1988 competition finishing last with "nul points", has died aged 67. http://www.eurovision-austria.com/der-oesterreichische-esc-teilnehmer-1988-wilfried-ist-tot/ (No link in English as yet). Lisa Mona Lisa:

Ok, I'll do it. Martin Landau, winner of Best Supporting Actor for Ed Wood, dies. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jul/17/martin-landau-star-of-ed-wood-and-crimes-and-misdemeanors-dies-at-89 Also nominated for Tucker: The Man And His Dream and Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Almost everywhere except the Academy Award Winners thread so far...

List of murderers updated for Landau's death.

You misunderstand me.

Still not ginger. Still white. Shame, disappointing way forward after such a good series.

Angelique author Anne Golon has died aged 95. https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemonde.fr%2Fdisparitions%2Farticle%2F2017%2F07%2F16%2Fla-romanciere-anne-golon-auteure-de-la-serie-angelique-est-morte_5161140_3382.html&edit-text DDP Pick. Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Golon

Alfie Bass left film, TV and radio forever 30 years ago today, aged 71.

Gawd, I've just seen they are making another one! https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3938982/mamma-mia-2-cast-trailer-about-meryl-streep/

Grace Mugabe injured in accident. https://www.zimeye.net/grace-mugabe-injured-in-convoy-accident-biker-dies-on-spot/ Did she have the biker shot?

Plus, the relative merits or otherwise of UK one-hit wonders is neither here nor there. Who is to say Joe Dolce obits but members of Fiction Factory don't? The latter won't, by the way, and they are British.

My point is not to denigrate your well made points. My point is that the British media seems to have a high bar when reporting UK deaths but a pretty low one when it comes to American personalities, especially particular forms of music. Hey, I guess it is easy from a distance to appreciate the talents of someone, especially in the US where the papers praise and laud their own to the high heavens. Much more difficult to appreciate the talents of someone in the UK the press build up and then try to dig the dirt on for the rest of their career.

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Where's the source information I mean? I could post news of Kirk Douglas' death on here and it wouldn't make it true. Must be getting it from a news source, an obituary or something...surely there's something out there...