Wormfarmer

Hello, and welcome to the thread for the 6th running of the ABC Deadpool! 26 entries received, all in the table a couple of posts below this. Scoring will be more abbreviated this year. Instead of a mass of text, I will just list the hits, followed by each player who gains points from that hit, followed by a master standings table. You should be able to check your hits and my math fairly straightforwardly that way. And with that let's begin the scoring . . . . . We had two picks die the day before the game started: Pat Carroll and Nichelle Nichols. I allowed replacements within the first week and most players took advantage immediately to fill the empty spaces. However msc will ride with an empty spot at N and Guy From Future will go with no hope at C. Sorry you end up with (minor) penalties for having great picks that just couldn't wait for the game to start . . . SCORING SUMMARY: Olivia Newton-John - GUB (7) N, WS, solo Bill Pitman - Death Impends (5) P, solo Robyn Griggs (Wiley) - Banana (5) G, WS, duo/HDS (5) W duo Lenny Johnrose - perhaps (6) L, WS, solo Tom Weiskopf - Baby Blue (5) W, solo Carl Kabat - gcreptile (5) K, solo Tim Page - gcreptile/Baby Blue (3) P, duo Josephine Tewson - Grimgrass (5) T, solo Bill Turnbull - gcreptile (7) T, solo + WS Mikhail Gorbachev - Grimgrass/Book/Joey Russ/GUB/theoldlady/wannamaker/Funeralopolis (2) G Marsha Hunt - Wormfarmer (5) H solo Queen Elizabeth II - Yvonne (5) Q solo Irene Papas - Perhaps and Wannamaker, duos at I, (3) Loretta Lynn - Stuart Beck solo! (6) Judy Tenuta - HDS solo + WS, T (7) Peter Tobin - Wannamaker solo, T (5) Angela Lansbury - Capn Cho/theoldlady/Yvonne/Book, L (2) Antonio Inoki - msc/baby blue, duos at I, (4) Charley Trippi - wormfarmer solo, T (5) Leslie Philips - Hell/Grimgrass at L (1), GUB/msc at P (2) Harry K Yee - wormfarmer solo at Y (5 if obit?) Doddie Weir - wannamaker/wormfarmer duo at W (5), WS bonus! David Butler - bibliogryphon solo, B (5) Ned Rorem - bibliogryphon solo, N (5) Mickey Kuhn - MariNisia solo, K (5) Vicky Phelan - msc/gcrep/Hell at V (3), Perhaps/banana/capn cho/Book at P (4) WS bonus! Hans Magnus Enzenberger - gcreptile solo, E (6) Jiang Zemin - Funeralopolis J (1), banana/Hell/wannamaker/tolady Z (4) Assem Allam - Perhaps allit solo, (8) Julia Reichart - HDS/Banana/Joey Russ/gcrep R, (2) Georgia Holt - MariNisia solo, H (5) Louise Tobin - Yvonne solo, T (5) . . . Now she gets full credit! Pierre Soulages - Death Impends solo, S (5) Philip Pearlstein - WEP solo allit, (6) Xi Xi - DI/msc/GUB/Hell/Joey Russ/Yvonne/Grimgrass/book/Baby Blue/Toast/Joe Money/HDS, allits X, (8) Don West - DI/gcrep/msc/Book/Perhaps/banana/capn cho/Joey Russ at W (4), HDS/Joe Money at D (3) WS bonus! Barbara Walters - GUB/Yvonne duo at W, (2) Helen Grayco - Death Impends solo at G, (5 if obit?) Pele (Edson Nascimento) - treating as a first name P for HDS/Joey Russ/Funeralopolis (1), and as a first name E for wannamaker (2) Lise Norgaard - wormfarmer solo at N, (5) Mark Souder - banana solo at S + WS, (7) Gianluca Vialli - gcreptile at G (3), book/perhaps/marinisia/wannamaker/joey russ/banana/wormfarmer/capn cho/theoldlady at V (4), WS bonus Clare Marx - cap'n cho solo at M +WS, (7) Mike Davis - cap'n cho/joey russ/banana/msc at D, (2) Carole Cook - book/WEP/wormfarmer/Perhaps allit, (3) Gina Lollabrigida - Baby Blue solo at L, (5) Lucille Randon - msc at L (1), Baby Blue/wormfarmer at R (2) Betty Boothroyd - solo allit for theoldlady (6) Stella Stevens - duo allit for Toast/Perhaps (4) Traute Lafrenz - duo at L for wormfarmer/death impends (3) Virginia Zeani - solo at Z for MariNisia (7) Ryuichi Sakamoto - duo at S and WS bonus for wannamaker/HDS (5) Hugh Hudson - solo allit for WEP (6) Bill Butler - duo allit for Death Impends/wormfarmer (4) Bobby Caldwell - solo at C plus WS bonus for Joey Russ (7) Al Jaffee - solo at J for wormfarmer (5) Ben Ferencz - solo at F for wormfarmer (5) Mary Quant - at Q for biblio/funeralopolis/yorkbank/msc/toast/theoldlady/joey russ/banana (4) Richard Riordan - solo allit for Perhaps (6) Harry Belafonte - missed low hanging fruit! Kudos to gcreptile for the Bill Turnbull solo . . . I expected many more to pick that one. And of course for the huge week in which he gains 3 hits and skips straight to the top of the leaderboard! Two new teams on the board, and another surprise to me - The Queen was also a solo, for Yvonne. Sometimes the obvious picks are too obvious and worth trying for the solo points! Another example of the above strategy . . . Loretta Lynn goes as an old, infirm, alliterative solo! I cannot for the life of me recall why I gave up on Loretta after having her on my list for years. Ouch. Nicely done Stuart. For the leaderboard, wannamaker makes the huge jump into 3rd, HDS is all of a sudden in second (all he needed was to have his 2022-23 posted rather than his 2021 list), and Stuart Beck jumps from obscurity to middle of the list in one hit. gcreptile continues to lead for now . . . . . Correction made (per theoldladys sharp eyes) to scores for Angela Lansbury from 1 pt to 2 pts for each player ........ Big moves made for baby blue (tie for 2nd) and wormfarmer (tie for 4th). Good plays/Bad plays: I have to hand it to WEP for submitting a list of 100% alliteratives. A very profitable strategy as long as they die during the next 12 months. STANDINGS: Wormfarmer - 46 (+5?) Perhaps - 42 Banana - 36 Joey Russ - 34 gcreptile - 33 HDS - 31 wannamaker - 30 Death Impends - 29 (+5?) msc - 28 Book - 27 Baby Blue - 27 Captain Chorizo - 23 Yvonne - 22 theoldlady - 22 Great Uncle Bulgaria - 21 MariNisia - 21 Grimgrass - 16 Hell - 16 Toast - 16 WEP - 15 bibliogryphon - 14 Joe Moneypenny - 11 Funeralopolis - 8 Stuart Beck - 6 Yorkshire Banker - 4 Perhaps gets a nice solo for 6 points and narrows the gap on leader Wormfarmer . . . . . . That dam I was expecting has started to go, with 6 more hits to add in a very short period of time. Three of them were on wormfarmers' list (Hey, that's ME!) so he/me makes a huge 14 point jump and ends Perhaps' brief stay as the leader. Also doing well this update is Joey Russ, who got 2 hits including a big solo with crooner Bobby Caldwell, which pulls him up to 4th place. He got that pick in well before Caldwell was on my radar, so as I always suspected, he's well connected. Yorkshire Banker gets the Quant hit at Q and leaves Guy From Future as the last entry not yet on the scoreboard. Note to self: there needs to be some kind of bonus for that! If a number occurs in parenthesis after your score, that reflects a hit without a QO yet.

Doddie Weir died in November, which would give me 140 points and a total of 1260. I would move up 2 places on the board, but still a miserable performance by all weights and measures. I love this format, but still suck at it. New strategy in mind for next year. Mark my words: I will improve!!!

Is there any limit to the number of hits you can get in a span of 5 days? Then I'll add Al Jaffee to my growing list.

I will piggyback along with BP's hit named above and add a shout for Ben Ferencs' death (April 7) to be added to both our scores. Hey, nice choices, BP! -WF

Anyone else share the hit for Augie Nieto with me?

This seems like it might be a particularly slow month with a lot of zero to zero ties. I guess that means a lot of matches decided by random coin flips, which is not particularly sporting. I suppose all involved need to submit teams prior to knowing the outcome of the flips in case he/she is a winner? That might be some wasted time and research for those not moving on. Based on my last rule suggestion (for a different pool) I have made a police riot shield to prepare myself for all the negative backlash that I will get for proposing an improvement on this (in my opinion). A few 0 to 0 tiebreaker ideas: Fewest times joker was picked by other teams in that round total score to date in the game (all previous rounds) most solos on team Age of joker (lower age wins) lowest age of top (three, or other number) names on your list Each of these could also be applied to ties in which the hits were the same on each team. I'm ready for you to fire your fruits and veggies . . . .

Joe Satriani's Unstoppable Momentum. Top Hits of the 1950's - compiled by Casey Kasem. Mama Cass Elliot and Dave Mason's album circa 1973, along with some other Cass Elliot classics. Plus making my own cd that will be the Best 25 Hard Rock Songs of all time. Almost done with that one and just above I find one of the songs posted - Carry On Wayward Son by Kansas. Nicely done TQR!

Sorry, I was unclear. What I meant was, for ease of scoring, shouldn't the lists be posted so that when a name dies, you get the point score right next to the name, instead of having to convert the #11 name to the point value that #11 gives you when you count down from 25? It seems an unnecessary complication. But carry on. Just an observation.

pts 25 Randy Jackson 24 Donald Trump 23 Vladimir Putin 22 Phil Collins 21 Ozzy Osbourne 20 Yoko Ono 19 Buzz Aldrin 18 Clint Eastwood 17 Willie Nelson 16 Stanley Baxter 15 Rolf Harris 14 Bobby Charlton 13 Burt Bacharach 13 pts (see, easy) 12 Harry Belafonte 11 David Attenborough 10 Billy Connolly 9 Bill Cosby 8 Roberta Flack 7 Francoise Hardy 6 Nigel Starmer-Smith 5 Tony Bennett 4 Prunella Scales 3 Joanne Woodward 2 Bob Barker 1 Dick Van Dyke alt michael J Fox alt Shane MacGowan My list reflects the number of points I will score if that person dies. So I most think that Randy Jackson will survive the year, right? Isn't everyone else numbering their lists incorrectly?

One ticket please.

Thank you! I fixed the errors and added Mark Souder which results in a big jump to T2nd for Banana. However, I have not scored for Mike Davis (yet). There are literally 50 people named Mike Davis on wiki and none of them are listed as columnists, which is my only clue based on a couple of entries. There was a UCLA based author named Mike Davis that died, but are you guys digging that deep? I hesitate to give credit with that much ambiguity. It was pretty likely that somebody named Mike Davis was going to die this year! Comments?

Updated a couple of days ago. First page of thread. Enjoy.

Wormfarmer's 2023 AJ Foyt andy taylor augie nieto barbara babcock barbara barrie barbara walters bill cosby bobby caldwell brian knobbs brian wilson chuck wepner dan rather emperor akihito francoise hardy frank field (Baron of Birkinhead) gary pinkel george alagiah gianluca vialli JOKER jack hanna james earl jones james whale jason becker jim duggan jim otto joanne woodward joe a. ratzinger kat bjelland kate keltie khaleda zia larry pressler linda nolan liza minelli norm coleman otis taylor pat robertson paul hogan peter max ric flair rob burrow rosalyn drexler rosie grier shane macgowan shannen doherty sid krofft sinbad steve mcmichael ted kaczinski terri garr than shwe wilfred benitez subs red farmer chuck wepner boris spassky samson burke

The aforementioned was my joker . . . . could we have a leader change?? I'd enjoy being out front even for a little while . . . . .

Sorry, but I can only give you half credit for close . . . . .

OOps. I originally had 113 yrs and 43 days. Guess I thought, "Hey, that's ridiculous" and then downgraded into oblivion . . . . . .

Not clear if you mean to predict the age at which each name will die and then you will have a formula to calculate scores from that, or if you mean the maximum age that any of these 50 will reach. If it's the latter, then I will enter with the following guesses: 1) 111 years, 43 days 2) Jan 28, 2027

Can't that be done on the original posted team? I was referring to folks who were reposting presumably thinking I had missed their entry . . . .

I think you have this pool confused with another. Last season I did a summary page of scoring obits, but not really any kind of bios to choose from. Sorry but this format is pretty similar to past years ABC pools.....

No need to repost any teams! I am working on the second half of the table which will include you all.

Game is now active and closed to new entries. Deaths start to earn points as of now (aug 4). Total entries = 19. Thanks for playing: MariNisia, HDS, Banana, Toast, Torva Messor, Guy From Future, Book, Yorkshire Banker, Nick, Death by Arsenic, theoldlady, DeathImpends, msc, gcreptile, Yvonne, Captain Chorizo, Bibliogryphon, Great Uncle Bulgaria, and Wormfarmer. If I missed anyone, my apologies, but i did not get your list in time. The master table is now finalized and posted. I have not carefully vetted all the lists, all my time was spent creating the table and figuring how to get it posted here in some reasonable form. We did have one already deceased name come to light so far, a great name at the E spot, Einar Enevoldson, but my ruling is to not allow subs for a DOA. Sorry, Book. I tried to update the master table with highlights, but the site won't save it, possibly because I imported it from excel or maybe due to its large size. It may be that the table is going to stay AS IS, if I can't get it to save changes. EDIT - I have a nice updated table, which is color coded for solos, duos, and hits. All the cool edits I did to it in excel unfortunately don't want to transfer over to this format. Fun stats on the entries: The letter F had the most unique names with 19. That's everyone in the game picking a different name! Most solos on a list goes to Yorkshire Banker and Death By Arsenic with 19 each. That's only 7 names away from a solo sweep. Next year I may institute a new bonus for list with the most solos on it. Most duos on a list goes to Bibliogryphon with 7. Name picked the most = David Gulpilil at 11 times (once at the D spot). A close second was Bob Dole at 10 times all at the D spot. My biggest surprises: Ozzy Osbourne, Olivia Newton-John and Abdelaziz Bouteflika were all nabbed as solos! Ozzy may have been dying for 20 years now but what a great alliterative at the O spot. Also, ancient Jimmy Carter went as a duo. HITS: First big hit of the game is hall of fame college football coach, Bobby Bowden (3), an alliterative score for 8 teams. Guess I missed the solo bonus there, eh? I will add teams to the table upon their first score, so it will be a literal "is now on the board" when you get your first hit. So there is (briefly) an 8 way tie for the lead . . . . Just a few minutes after the above update I add hit #2 for the game - a solo shot for MariNisia with actress Jane Withers (5) at the W spot. Good for 3 solo points and solo grip on the lead. (Thanks for keeping an eye on me MariNisia and theoldlady) The hits just keep on coming! Bob Jenkins (5) jenks it for 2 pts plus the duo bonus AND 1942 bonus for HDS and Guy From Future, moving them both into a tie with MariNisia for the lead. HUGE hit for theoldlady - Gerd Muller (7) gets her the 1942 bonus and the solo bonus! She's instantly in 4th place. That's 9 folks already on the board . . . . Michael Cullen (5), er, pardon me, Sir, has taken a turn for the very worst. This resulting in a duo bonus for theoldlady and Cap'n Cho, in addition to the 1942 bonus, which I will try to heretofore refer to as the "whippersnapper bonus". Now we have 10 folks on the board AND a new leader!! MariNisia takes back the lead with another solo shot at the S spot, with Kalyan Singh (5). And in this same post, anti-vaccer Phil Valentine (7) succumbs to the virus and regrets thumbing his nose at common sense and earns solo and whippersnapper bonuses for gcreptile. You guys are good! BAM! Great score for 7 teams at the H spot with the passing of Sarah Harding (4/3). Add the Whippersnapper bonus for a total of 4 points each. We welcome newcomer Book to the leaderboard. Also entering with a 3 point hit (at the S spot) is Great Uncle Bulgaria. The leader changes again - - - theoldlady is back on top!! No rest for the dead. Donald Zec (4) donates himself for the benefit of three contestants - msc, Yvonne and Wormfarmer. Yvonne is the 12th player to post a score. No bonuses but the Z spot is one of the premium hits. Wormfarmer is also still looking for a QO for world record holding track star Ida Keeling, who passed on Aug 28th. C'mon media, get with it! That's worth a cool 5 points! "Cool" Carl Bean strikes 6 points into the heart of gcreptile at the C spot. That includes both the solo and whippersnapper bonuses and vaults him into a tie for first. Nice at bat, gc. Terry "Who-in-the-Hell?" Lubbock has passed and the BBC has provided the means to a score for 6 lovely prize winners. Five had him at the L spot (4 pts) and one at the T spot (3 pts), which includes the whippersnapper bonus. We now have 14 of 19 teams on the scoreboard. AND a new leader! WOAH! One of the great streaks in the game was just had by Great Uncle Bulgaria. Since the last update, I have 3 (count 'em, 3), solos to post for GUB. He scores for Amy Winifred Hawkins 5 at the H spot (no whippersnapper bonus there), Abdelaziz Bouteflika 5 at the A spot, and Jimmy Greaves 5 at the G spot!! That's a super quick 15 pts since Sept 8th, and he did it all on his own. No sharing his points! He jumps from 14th to 2nd in one post. Legendary. Robert Fyfe (5) including solo bonus, for bibliogryphon. That makes 15 teams on the leaderboard. Who will be last? Not Toast. He gets a big solo alliterative at the G spot with the whippersnapper bonus to boot. Crazy good pick there with Greg Gilbert (8), who took a very long time to go but paid off for the patient Toast. Three teams left to get on board. Make it two. DeathbyArsenic gets two quick hits and is the latest new entry. Bernard Tapie (7) gives him a solo and barely qualifies for a whippersnapper bonus at the T spot, then a short time later, Nadia Chaudhri (4) at the N spot moves him up the leaderboard (another whippersnapper bonus) as a duo hit shared with leader gcreptile. Nice going! Only Nick and Torva Messor left in the contest to avoid being the booby. Damn! theoldlady is showing us how it's done. She picks up a solo/whippersnapper bonus to go with a nice 3 pts for Granville Adams using the A spot. That's a big leap of 8 points to join gcreptile at the top of the leaderboard! Well done! At the T spot, Ancient Animator Ruthie Tompson (3) of Disney Hall of Fame has passed at 111 years old and left behind points for two of us - Yvonne and Wormfarmer. We get the duo bonus but miss the whippersnapper by a mile and a half. Time for a big update: I have 6 hits to add, and maybe a 7th if someone can confirm a QO for Miguel de Oliveira. I know a spanish obit was referenced, but if that doesn't fly for the Derby, then it certainly wasn't one of the sources I added for this game. So for now on to the confirmed point getters . . . . Albert Raboteau gets a WS bonus for 3 teams - msc put him at the A spot for 4 points, while gcreptile and Banana had him at the R spot also for 4 points. Ally Mclaws pushes the boundaries of celebrity but gets WS points for gcreptile and HDS at the A spot (4) and again 4 points for those who had her at the M spot - Cap'n Cho/Banana/msc. Well done! James Michael Tyler dies among Friends and gets WS points for a whopping 7 teams, all 4 pts each at the T spot - Cap'n Cho/Book/msc/gcreptile/theoldlady/HDS/MariNisia. Jovita Moore carks for a solo/WS at the M spot (total of 7) for MariNisia - that's how it's done! The only old fart of this update, alliterative Frank Farrar dies and gives Wormfarmer a solo and 6 points. Finally, Alan Igglesden is kind enough to add WS points to the totals of Cap'n Cho (4 pts at the A spot), and msc/gcreptile/theoldlady/Death Impends/MariNisia/Banana (5 pts each at the I spot). That is quite a month for msc and gcreptile who each score 17 points, while MariNisia adds 16, Banana adds 13 and Cap'n Cho gets a dozen. No new teams get on the board. It feels like this is quite a furious pace so far and the totals are really adding up for some teams. Nice work, but as the hits accumulate, there are fewer ways left to score, so there is hope for the teams at the back of the pack . . . . Thanks to MariNisia for both following the obits and double checking my scoring accuracy. She should be running this thing! A couple more names to score and another in limbo. First, Pat Martino (6) at the P spot give solo and WP points to Yorkshire Banker. Then, FW deKlerk gives duo bonuses to gcreptile at the F spot (2) and DeathbyArsenic at the D spot (3). gcreptile widens his lead on the field a little bit but still LOTS of time left in this game. Wormfarmer suffers another limbo hit with Cuban actress/singer Amalia Aguilar. I never know how famous people are in their own cultures, but it seems like everyone else always gets obits with obscure names I've never heard of, so I continue to bang my head against the wall with my own obscurities. Hopefully, the press will pick her up, along with previous dud Ida Keeling. . . . The scoring never stops in this game. Clarissa Eden (3) gives 5 contestants points at the lucrative E spot. And Jyrki Kasvi (5) gives whippersnapper and duo bonus points to book and theoldlady at the K spot. One of the teams getting a hit is new to the leaderboard, Torva Messor, which means that our booby for this year is Nick. Congrats to you, Nick. Next year I will consider awarding some kind of bonus for this undesirable feat. HUGE Update! Probably going to be the biggest of the year, and it's not because I have neglected to post as it's only been about 2 weeks since the last one. But we lost our two most numerous picks back to back, plus a few solos thrown in as well. So 15 of the 19 players are scoring this time, so if you're not one of those, you are losing ground this week. In addition, our previously mentioned BOOBY, Nick, has a good week and will no longer be in last place. So let's get to it . . . . First, Stephen Sondheim (6) dies and gives nice alliterative/solo points to bibliogryphon. Then, golfer Lee Elder (6) carks and donates solo/vowel points to HDS. To finish off the solo hits, Fortune Fitzroy (6) posts a nice alliterative score for Toast. Now for the big dogs - monster pick David Gulpilil gives whippersnapper points at the D spot (3pts) to Yorkshire Banker, and at the G spot to 10 other teams (4pts). The second monster pick to die was Bob Dole, who 10 teams had all at the D spot, for 2 pts each. What a Christmas rush! Top scorer of the week is HDS, who adds 12 points on 3 hits and yet only moves up the leaderboard 2 places. Man this is a tough crowd! A few more scores to round out the year: Judge Mary E Fairhurst (7) is a sweet score for HDS who picks up solo and whippersnapper points at the F spot. Richard Rogers (6) gives Toast solo alliterative points. Nice. Harry Reid (3) carks to give the duo bonus at the R spot to HDS and theoldlady. And finally, the lady I thought would live forever, Betty White (5) gives Book solo points at the W spot. Of those that scored, Toast and HDS are the only ones that actually move up in position, 4 and 2 places, respectively. We are now at approximately the half way point and the scores are huge. Can 2022 be as generous? Things appear to have calmed a little, and I only have two hits to report, one of them being from back in 2021. Lucia Hiriart (5) provides solo points at the H spot to Guy From Future, and Sidney Poitier (5) does the same at the P spot for Yvonne. It's enough to move both players up the leaderboard a little. First update in 3 weeks and only a few new scores to post, indicating things have calmed down a bit on the obits page. For now. First up, media mogul Jana Bennett (4/3) gets the WS bonus for 2 folks at the B spot and 2 folks at the J spot. Composer and old fart Francis Jackson (5) gets solo points for Wormfarmer at the J spot. And finally, Eastender Leonard Fenton (5) provides a solo boost to Yvonne at the F spot. New totals move Wormfarmer and Yvonne 3 places each up the leaderboard, while gcreptile and theoldlady simply widen their leads. Oddly, with 19 players in the game, there are no ties on the board at this point. For whatever that's worth. I'm back among the temporarily living and overdue for an update. First, a correction to my last scoring post, (pointed out once again by MariNisia) in that Jana Bennett should not have received a duo bonus for the four folks that picked her. Duh. Sorry to actually drop all of you down one point on the leaderboard. The error has been corrected above as well. Most of you will make it up in no time, I'm sure. Next, let's look at a missed hit from January. Gary Burgess (6) gives huge WS and solo points at the G spot to Yorkshire Banker. York, you are either not paying attention or very patient with the scoring. I'll take either. Then we have Carleton Carpenter (6) doing wonders for Toast's game as a solo alliterative. Monica Vitti (2) passes to give 3 players something to cherish at the V spot. But not to be outdone there, Beryl Vertue (3) is a duo hit for Biblio and DeathbyArsenic also at the V. The Candy Bomber (a rare feel good story if you like war history), Gail Halvorson (5) passes to give Wormfarmer solo points at the H spot. Nick rakes riches with a young solo shot at the M spot, with Jane Marczewski (aka Nightbirde) (7) passing of cancer. That really is a sad story. I had seen her on America's Got Talent, but did not imagine her cancer would get her so quickly. And finally for today, Biblio scores again, along with Cap'n Cho, with a duo at the O spot with Frank O'Farrell's (4) demise. So biblio makes the biggest jump up three places, and Toast, YorkBank and Cap'n Cho each get a rung or two as well. No changes at the top for now. At least until MariNisia checks my work! Things have been morbidly slow in pooling so far in 2022, and this pool is no exception. Even though I have not updated in two months, I only have 4 hits to post (that I am aware of). The first is a nice duo at the W spot for gcreptile and Guy From Future with Sister Catherine Wybourne (4), also earning the WS bonus. Then Vic Elford collects points at both the V (1) and E (3) spots for a quartet of teams. Miguel Van Damme may be the youngest hit so far, and scores a duo bonus as well for Death by Arsenic at the M (4) and Guy From Future at the V (5). Finally, Tom Smith ends an excruciatingly long wait for those who have been playing him in various pools for years and gets WS and duo points for Great Uncle Bulgaria at the T (4) and Nick at the S spot (5). Kudos to Guy From Future here, who actually scored on 3 of the 4 hits I just posted for a total of 12 points and a big 6 place leap up the leaderboard. That would be more impressive if he hadn't been second from the bottom. But better late than never - - well done, sir! A quick turnaround for another update for some missed hits that were pointed out by MariNisia: First up is young buck Tom Parker, getting WS bonuses for 3 players at the P spot (4) and also for Death Impends at the T spot (3). Next is a solo strike for Death Impends with ancient music producer Art Rupe (4) at the R spot. And lastly, let's add actor Michel Bouquet (4) also a solo at the B spot for Death by Arsenic. Although Death Impends makes the largest bound up the leaderboard, the more significant move was made by msc, who solidifies 3rd place and narrows the gap on the top two leaders with only a couple of months to go. But watch out for Torva in the home stretch . . . . Less than 3 weeks to play so time for another update. Toast gets a solo AND an alliterative with Billy Bingham, good for 6 points. Yorkie Banker also solos with long time DL favorite JL Trintignant at the T spot for 5 points. And Torva solos with director Peter Brook at the P spot for 4 points. Next we have a nice duo hit for Wormfarmer and Bibliogryphon with ancient Mexican ex-president Luis Echeverria at the slightly more valuable E spot for 4 points each. And finally, half the field hits with Susie Steiner, who I didn't select due to her questionable status for an obit. But she got one, right? If not, I will gladly retract the points, but if so, she earns alliterative and a WS bonus for a total of 5 points. Points have been credited and table updated below, with a whopping 12 players improving their scores. Toast and Yorkie Banker make the biggest moves, but the top 6 remain unchanged . . . . . . Finally, I am adding a list of the lost, as I discovered that gcreptile would have hit last year with boxer Miguel de Olivera but no obit has been found. So I will add him to the pair of nobodys that I selected, and keep a list below the scoring table. Please let me know in the thread if there are others. Another late hit to post which only results in padding the lead for our top dog, gcreptile. It will likely be enough to clinch the title for him in 21-22. Uwe Seeler passes and gives 3 point boosts (including the Duo bonus) to gcr at the U spot, and also Yorkshire Banker at the S spot. Noted is that gcreptile also came very close to earning the vowel movement bonus, having hits at the A, I, O (but without an obit) and now the U spot. A hit at E or Y was all he needed. One final hit to add comes on the last day of the game, and it is a pretty good one. I have had Nichelle Nichols on my radar at the N spot for several years, but I always hoped she would keep going as Star Trek original cast members are getting fewer and fewer. The alliterative is worth 3 points to 4 players: bibliogryphon, Guy From Future, Torva Messor and HDS. Bibliogryphon is the only one to put the points to good use and move up the leaderboard a bit. But the top of the list remains unchanged. So, barring a scoring omission of epic proportions, our champion for the year is gcreptile with a whopping 64 points!! Very well done! theoldlady does very nice work for a solid second place at 59 points, so congratulations there as well. gcreptile also had the most raw hits with 15, and theoldlady and msc tied for second most with 13. Please check your teams and let me know if there are any final hits to post by the 6th of Aug. After that the game will be closed and scores will be final. Thanks for playing!! New thread for the 2022-23 game is up and entries are closed! SCORING TABLE: 1 gcreptile - 64 2 theoldlady - 59 3 msc - 51 4 HDS - 45 5 MariNisia - 41 6 Captain Chorizo - 40 7 Banana - 37 7 Book - 37 7 Toast - 37 10 DeathImpends - 34 11 Wormfarmer - 32 12 Yorkshire Banker - 30 13 Guy From Future - 28 14 DeathbyArsenic - 25 14 bibliogryphon - 25 16 Yvonne - 22 16 Great Uncle Bulgaria - 22 16 Nick - 22 19 Torva Messor - 15 List of the non qualifying stiffs: Ida Keeling - wormfarmer Miguel de Olivera - gcreptile Amalia Aguilar - wormfarmer

gcreptile bibliogryphon Book Baby Blue Funeralopolis Yorkshire Banker WEP Joe Moneypenny Guy From Future Toast Perhaps Death Impends msc A - George Alagiah A. Iris Apfel A – George Alagiah A – Martti Ahtisaari A = George Alagiah A John Aniston A Alfonso Arau A. Brigitte Auber A = Norma Aleandro A - Anouk Aimée A - Assem Allam George ALAGIAH A – George Alagiah B - Charlie Bird B. David Butler B – Bob Barker B – Carlos Bilardo B = Bob Barker B Margaret Stuart Barry B Bonnie Bartlett B. Bob Barker B = Scotty Bowman B - Bob Barker B - Bob Barker BILL BUTLER (cinematographer) B – Bob Barker C - John Cannan C. Barbara Clegg C – Carole Cook C – Claudia Cardinale C = Jimmy Carter C Nadia Cattouse C Carole Cook C.Sidney Cooke C = Pat Carroll (DOA) C - John Cannan C - Carole Cook CLEM CATTINI C – Jimmy Carter D - Derek Draper D. Timothy Dudley-Smith D – Derek Draper D – Jacques Delors D = Jacques Dutronc D Audrey Dalton D Derek Draper D. Don West D =Dick Duff D - Derek Draper D - Derek Draper DONNIE DUNAGAN D – Mike Davis E - Hans Magnus Enzensberger E. Carl Erskine E – Eugenia Cooney E – Erika Blanc E = Joe Exotic E Susan Engel E Elliott Erwitt E. Anthony Epstein E = Eleanor Collins E - Edith Eger E - Eric Lamaze Francois ENGLERT E – Eric Lamaze F - Frank Field F. Athol Fugard F – Frank Field F – Fred Lorenzen F = Frank Field F Nora Forster F Franklyn Field F.Alberto Fujimori F = Ninette Finch F - Frank Field F - Frank Field FRANK FIELD F – Frank Field G - Gianluca Vialli G. Gaston Glock G – Mikhail Gorbachev G – Giorgio Moroder G = Michail Gorbacev G Dick Groat G Gustavo Gutiérrez G. Grace Chang G = Gaston Glock G - Gaston Glock G - Gaston Glock Helen GRAYCO G – Gaston Glock H - Henry Dickerson H. Sheldon Harnick H – Françoise Hardy H –Margaret Hamilton H = Francoise Hardy H Mie Hama H Hugh Hudson H. Mie Hama H = Harriet Andersson H - Herbie Hancock H - Malcolm Hebden Bill HAYES (actor) H- Harry Greenway I - Haris Ibrahim I. James Ivory I – Ion Iliescu I – Antonio Inoki I = Ion Iliescu I James Ivory I Ion Iliescu I. Robert Ito I =Dafydd Iwan I - Ion Iliescu I - Irene Papas ION ILIESCU I – Antonio Inoki J - Glynis Johns J. Norman Jewison J – John Cannan J – John Nord J = Jiang Zemin J Gwyneth Jones J Jennifer Johnston J Jack Thompson (aus actor) J = Joe Biden J - Jasper Johns J - John Cannan JASPER JOHNS J – John Cannan K - Carl Kabat K. Agnes Keleti K – Joe Kinnear K – Kris Kristofferson K = Milan Kundera K Rusty Kuntz K Kyōko Kagawa K. Kamini Kaushal K = Sid Krofft K - Katharine Kent K - Don King Ethel KENNEDY K – Ted Kaczynski L - Eric Lamaze L. Ray Lawler L – Angela Lansbury L – Gina Lollabrigada L = Tom Lehrer L Phyllida Law L Lisa Lu L.Lance Henriksen L = Claude LeLoach L – Lisa Lu L - Lenny Johnrose Traute LAFRENZ L – Lucille Randon M - Steve Mongo McMichael M. Josip Manolic M – Steve McMichael M – Johnny Mathis M = Steve McMichael M Dick McTaggart M Mildred Miller M.Miiko Taka M = Alice Munro M - Jean Marsh M - Pervez Musharraf MAHATHIR MOHAMAD M – Steve McMichael N -Nigel Starmer-Smith N. Larry Niven N – Nigel Starmer-Smith N – Joe Negri N = Giorgio Napolitano N Linda Nolan N Nancy Norman N. Yoshiro Nakamatsu N = Tatsuya Nakadai N - Nick Nolte N - Nigel Starmer-Smith Joe NEGRI N – Nichelle Nichols (DOA) O - Brendan Ormsby O. Edna O’ Brien O – Ozzy Osbourne O – Bulle Ogier O = Yoko Ono O Meg Wynn Owen O Olav Orheim O. Jiro Ono O = Tin Oo O - Yoko Ono O - O.J. Brigance David ORECK O – Oliver Sherwood P - Tim Page P. Leontyne Price P – Vicky Phelan P – Tim Page P = Pelè (1st) P Dick Pound P Philip Pearlstein P. Patrick Tse P = Piper Laurie P - Priscilla Pointer P - Vicky Phelan Bill PITMAN P – Leslie Philips Q - Al Quie Q. Mary Quant Q – Al Quie Q – Quincy Jones Q = Mary Quant Q Mary Quant Q Qian Qihu Q. Eve Queler Q = Robin Quivers Q - Mary Quant Q - Quentin Blake QUENTIN Blake Q – Mary Quant R - Julia Reichert R. Ned Rorem R – Rob Burrow R – Lucille Randon R = Linda Ronstadt R Vanessa Redgrave R Rachel Robinson R. Rebecca Pan R =Ernest Ranglin R - Rachel Robinson R - Richard Riordan RACHEL ROBINSON R – Rob Burrow S - Mutulu Shakur S. Max Stafford-Clark S – Sinisa Mihajlovic S – Herman Santiago S = Mutulu Shakur S Long Dong Silver S Stephen Smale S.Lucille Soong S = Steve McMichael S - Stella Stevens S - Stella Stevens Pierre SOULAGES S – Nigel Starmer-Smith T - Bill Turnbull T. Nikolai Tolstoy T – Michael Tilson Thomas T – Michael Tilson Thomas T = Norman Tebbit T Bella Thorne T Tommy Thompson T.Shintaro Tsuji T = Jon Taffer T - Ted Turner T - Graham Thorpe Shintaro TSUJI T – Michael Tilson Thomas U - Gudrun Ure U. Gudrun Ure U – Gudrun Ure U – Gudrun Ure U = Gudrun Ure U Ian Ure U Ulrich Urban U. Torbin Ulrich U = Gudrun Ure U - Gudrun Ure U - Bob Uecker Gudrun URE U – Gudrun Ure V - Vicky Phelan V. Erich Von Daniken V – Gianni Vialli V – Bobby Vinton V = Virgil (Runnels, Jr.) (WWE) V Mamie Van Doren V Viktor Vekselberg V. Fay Vincent V = Paul Vachon V - Viviane Ventura V - Gianluca Vialli Leroy VAN DYKE V – Vicky Phelan W - Don West W. Joy Whitby W – Don West W – Tom Weiskopf W = James Whale W Willie Wallace W William H. Webster W. Richard Williams(tennis) W = Richard Wilson W - Joanne Woodward W - Don West Don WEST W – Don West X - Bao Xishun X. Xi Jinping X – Xi Xi X – Xi Xi X = Xi Murong X Xavier Nady X Xi Xiaoming X. Xi Xi X = Lil Xan X - Xi Xi X - Xaviera Hollander XI XI X – Xi Xi Y - Justin Yerbury Y. Arnold Yarrow Y – Arnold Yarrow Y – Yoko Ono Y = Arnold Yarrow Y Naina Yelstina Y Yoji Yamada Y. Chen-Ning Yang Y = Arnold Yarrow Y - Arnold Yarrow Y - Ron Yeats Arnold YARROW Y – Justin Yerbury Z - Robert Zimmer Z. Zandra Rhodes Z – Zvi Zamir Z – Krzysztof Zanussi Z = Milos Zeman Z Zhang Zhan Z Zvi Zamir Z. Slava Zaitsev Z = Zhang Zhan Z - Mario Zagallo Z - Mário Zagallo Milos ZEMAN Z – Mario Zagallo Grimgrass Hell Yvonne Stuart Beck Joey Russ wannamaker theoldlady Great Uncle Bulgaria Banana Captain Chorizo HDS MariNisia Wormfarmer A – Martti Ahtisaari George Alagiah Joss Ackland A - Alan Alda John Ashton A- Buzz Aldrin A - Ronnie Atkins David Attenborough Alagiah, George a al attles A- George Alagiah A - Alan Bergman george alagiah B – Bob Barker Rob Burrow Jack Burke B - Christopher Benjamin Tony Brown (NBA Ref) B- Ruth Buzzi B - Betty Boothroyd Bob Barker Burrow, Rob b lando buzzanca B- Bob Barker B - Harold Becker bill butler C – Keith Clifford Jimmy Carter Iris Cummings C - Chevy Chase Bobby Caldwell C- Phil Collins C - Jimmy Carter Clem Cattini (drummer) Chris Stone (Aus Football) c dabney coleman C- John Cannan C - Dabney Coleman carole cook D – Jacques Delors Derek Draper Carmen Marsh Doll D - Dick Cheney Mike Davis D- Derek Draper D - Derek Draper Dion DiMucci Davis, Mike (columnist) d mike davis (columnist) D- Don West D - Eileen Derbyshire evelyn dick E – Taina Elg Joe Exotic Anthony Epstein E - Edward (Duke of Kent) (1st) Eric Lamaze E- Edson A. do Nascimento (Pelé) E - Ethel Kennedy Ed Ames ESG (Rapper) (1st) e winnie ewing E- Ethyl Kennedy E - Eric del Castillo carl erskine F – Frank Field Frank Field Sylvia Fein F - Frank Field Frank Field F- Frank Field F - Frank Field Frank Field Frank Field f marianne faithful F- Frank Field F - Dianne Feinstein ben ferencz G – Mikhail Gorbachev Gaston Glock Lee Grant G - Gary Glitter Mikhail Gorbachev G- Mikhail Gorbachev G - Mikhail Gorbachev Mikhail Gorbachev Griggs, Robyn g luis garavito G- Gaston Glock G - Merlin Griffiths francoise gilot H – Steve Halliwell Francoise Hardy Stuart Hall H - Harvey Weinstein Fracoise Hardy H- Françoise Hardy H - Rolf Harris Douglas Hurd Hanna, Jack h francoise hardy H- Henry Kissinger H - Georgia Holt marsha hunt I – Ion Iliescu Ion Iliescu James Ivory I - Eric Idle Ion Iliescu I- Irene Papas I - Ion Iliescu Ion Iliescu Ina Jaffe i ion illescu I- Ion Iliescu I - Julio Iglesias ed iskenderian J – Jean Marsh John Cannan Glynis Johns J - Joseph James DeAngelo John Cannan J- Jimmy Carter J - Katherine Jackson Jack Jones (singer) John Cannan (murderer) j katherine jackson J- Jeanette Lee J - Wanda Jackson al jaffee K – Kris Kristofferson Henry Kissinger Henry Kissinger K - Ted Kaczynski Ted Kaczynski K- Ted Kaczynski K - Ted Kaczynski Kiri te Kanawa (opera singer) Kaczynski, Ted k timothy keller K- Ted Kaczynski K - Mickey Kuhn robert kuok L – Leslie Phillips Leslie Phillips Angela Lansbury L - Loretta Lynn Steve Lieberman L- Liza Minnelli L - Angela Lansbury Tom Lehrer Lee, Esther (tennis therapist) l angela lansbury L- Larry Pressler L - Steve Ludzik traute lafrenz M – Marianne Faithfull Steve McMichael Imelda Marcos M - Ghislaine Maxwell Steve McMichael M- Steve "Mongo" McMichael M - Imelda Marcos Pete Murray (DJ) McMichael, Steve m clare marx M- Steve McMichael M - Elaine May morton mintz N – Giorgio Napolitano Nigel Starmer Smith Bob Newhart N - Bob Newhart Nigel Starmer Smith N- Linda Nolan N - Willie Nelson Olivia Newton-John Nordland, Rod n nigel starmer smith N- Denis Sassou Nguesso N - Mike Nussbaum lise norgaard O – Ozzy Osbourne Ozzy Osbourne Yoko Ono O - Yuri Oganessian Yoko Ono O- Ozzy Osbourne O - Ryan O'Neal Ove Fundin (speedway champ) Orena, Victor o ryan o'neal O- Ozzy Osbourne O - Richard O'Sullivan jim otto P – Pervez Musharraf Pervez Musharraf Wanda Poltawska P - Phil Collins Pele (1st) P- Pervez Musharraf P - Larry Pressler Leslie Phillips Phelan, Vicky p vicky phelan P- Pele P - Priscilla Pointer priscilla pointer Q – Quincy Jones Quentin Blake Queen Elizabeth Q - Quentin Blake Mary Quant Q- Quincy Jones Q - Mary Quant Eve Queler (US conductor) Quant, Mary q abraham quintinilla Q- Albert Quie Q - Al Quie marita camacho quiros R – Ray Reardon Ray Anthony Patricia Routledge R - Richard Franklin Julia Reichert R- Rob Burrow R - Gavin Robertson Ruggero Raimondi (opera singer) Reichert, Julia r rob burrow R- Julia Reichert R - William Russell lucile randon S – Nigel Starmer-Smith Steve McMichael Dennis Skinner S - Salman (of Saudi Arabia) (1st) Mutulu Shakur S- Ryuichi Sakamoto S - Nigel Starmer-Smith Renata Scotto (opera singer) Souder, Mark s steve mcmichael S- Ryuichi Sakamoto S - Thomas P. Stafford june spencer T – Josephine Tewson Ted Kaczynski Louise Tobin T - Ted Turner Michael Tilson Thomas T- Peter Tobin T - Ted Turner Tony Thorpe (ex Rubettes) Tilson Thomas, Michael t otis taylor (nfl) T- Judy Tenuta T - Lawrence Turman charley trippi U – Gudrun Ure Gudrun Ure Gudrun Ure U - Ulf Merbold Gudrun Ure U- Gudrun Ure U - Gudrun Ure Uri Geller Uecker, Bob u bob uecker U- Torben Ulrich U - Gudrun Ure ian underwood V – Frankie Valli Vicky Phelan Dick Van Dyke V - Vladimir Putin Gianluca Vialli V- Gianluca Vialli V - Gianluca Vialli Valerie Masterson (opera singer) Vialli, Gianluca v gianluca vialli V- Virgil (wrestler) V - Gianluca Vialli gianlucca vialli W – James Watson Joanne Woodward Barbara Walters W - John Williams Don West W- Doddie Weir W - James Whale Barbara Walters West, Don w don west W- Robin Griggs Wiley W - Woody Woodbury doddie weir X – Xi Xi Xi Xi Xi Xi X - Xi Jinping Xi Xi X- Xi Jinping X - Xi Jinping Xi Xi Xishun Bao x xavier mcdaniel X- Xi Xi X - Xi Jinping xaviera hollander Y – Yoko Ono Arnold Yarrow Arnold Yarrow Y - Ysanne Churchman Justin Yerbury Y- Yoko Ono Y - Neil Young Yoko Ono Yarrow, Arnold y yoon jeong-hee Y- Arnold Yarrow Y - Arnold Yarrow harry k yee Z – Khaleda Zia Jiang Zemin Eva Zeller Z - Anthony Zerbe Mario Zagallo Z- Jiang Zemin Z - Jiang Zemin Milos Zeman Zemin, Jiang z mario zagallo Z- Mario Zagallo Z - Virginia Zeani khaleda zia

RULES: The competition will start 1 AUGUST 2022 (all lists must be in by 11:59pm (GMT) July 31) and scoring will end July 31, 2023. Submit a list of 26 people. The first name OR last name of the first person must begin with an A. Second person with a B. You get the idea. This game doesn't require you to choose a joker. Please use this format A - Alvin Chipmunk or S - Homer Simpson Qualifying names will be those getting an obit in sources used by the great Windy City Deadpool, which uses the obit sources of the Derby Dead Pool, plus The NY Times, LA Times, CBS News, Fox News, TMZ, and MSN. Also acceptable: CNN, ABC, NBC, the Associate Press (AP) and Time. Due to the large number of names possible, and because the more tenacious of you can find the folk on the very fringes of celebrity, please police your own obits and notify me by PM or a post on this thread. Of course if it's the likes of the Queen or the Pope scoring, just give me time to post it, no need to bring it to my attention.  SCORING: A hit using the first name (all letters except as below) - 1 point A hit using the last name (all letters except as below) - 2 points A hit with the first name . . . (A, E, I, O, U, Y) - 2 points A hit with the last name . . . (A, E, I, O, U, Y) - 3 points A hit with the first OR last name . . . (Q, X, Z) - 4 points A hit with an alliterative name scores the points for both first and last names as specified above (so an alliterative at the A spot would be worth 5 points, the B spot would be worth 3 points, the Q spot would be worth 8 points) NOTE: General titles such as Queen/Pope/Prince, etc. may still be allowed, but will score only 1 point rather than the 4 points you would score with a legitimate name at the Q spot, for example. BONUSES: Whippersnapper Bonus (WS): dies at age 75 or younger = 2 points (if there is substantial ambiguity or birth year is unknown, no bonus will be awarded) Solos = 3 points Duos = 1 point Vowel Movement Bonus (VMB): hit all five vowels (A, E, I, O, U) = 5 points hit any four vowels + the letter Y = 3 points Scoring Example: if someone gets a solo hit with 71 year old Zadora Zephyr, the score would be 8 + 2 (WS) + 3 (solo) = 13 (the best you could do with one hit). TIES: Will be broken by the date the final score is reached. That is, if three folks end up with 48 points, the person that got to 48 on the earliest date will be the winner.  NAMES: I prefer to see real names used (e.g. Richard Penniman instead of Little Richard). But any name that has been previously accepted in any of the prior ABC Deadpools is valid. I will be lenient on submissions, but beware the missing QO for scoring. I have been bitten many times by names I thought would certainly get a QO, but nooooooo . . . . No animals, due to the ease of earning the WS bonus that way. SUBS: Please check in at the start of the game if anyone on your list dies before the game starts. I will allow a sub for that letter, but it can't be someone who is new to the DP radar since the game started. That means no one who is diagnosed with cancer/has an accident on the 30th, say. Enjoy!

Thanks for the support, I'm glad to hear the pool is enjoyed. I'm in for another year, so be advised to start getting your lists in order. The only change I would like to make is to the Whippersnapper bonus. It will be for any death aged 69 or younger, rather than the year of birth, which had to keep changing each year to keep the spirit of the rule intact. The vowel movement bonus is also seemingly pretty hard to get, so I may increase the points for that one. It doesn't look like anyone will earn it this year, although a few are getting close. I leave on a camping trip on July 31, so although the deadline for submissions will be the end of the month, I may not get lists/details posted until the following weekend. Look for all the details on the new thread I will start hopefully by next weekend . . . . .

I have updated the table with hits I'm aware of through today. Is there interest in doing this another year? I have been in a funk about the apparent loss of Doug Stanhope's Celebrity DP site. I put a lot of work in there but it seems to be kaput. Anyone heard if it will return?? Coincidentally, with it went my master list of research and recordkeeping for my last 12 years or so of deadpooling. So I am trying to pick myself up out of the doldrums of deathpooling and reconstruct my tables. I will host this one again if there are still a dozen or more of you who find it a worthy challenge, just post a "like" if you are in. Or for those of you who oppose that method of expressing support, an added statement of participation works too, although I have never understood what the opposition to likes is about . . . . .