Lord Fellatio Nelson

Sod it, first or surnames.

I see what you did there Cat, I think.. Are you hEARing me right? YoungWillz and I love a bit of pinna. Personally,Ive always preferred a bit of FANNY Blankers Koen, however, as its not her surname it doesn't count!

I see what you did there Cat, I think..

I just checked that Dutch Politician Vim Kok. Still alive

Honestly, we could hold the tournament at the drop of a hat, we would be the best at controlling hooligans, we have the stadium, the infrastructure and its been 50 effing years since we last held it. Why the f**k not? ( Yeah Chaz, because we are English......c**t! )

How do you get tickets??

For those who missed it first time and since. At no point did I mention the person concerned nor was the comment directed at her, the circumstances surrounding her death. Unlike some direct comments I could quote. You have to try really really hard to make that link, and continued discussion that the joke actually made that link is simply wrong imo. Edit: I agree with Handy's comments about hypersensitivity in the wake of what happened...maybe that's the case here. I know there was no malice to the joke nor the gif and, being hypocritical again, if the death were down to natural causes I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought. Murder is still shocking to me, living on the Isle of Man where that kind of violent crime is still very rare it still has the power to shock. There is also the fact that I was treating it as fly cake, putting my focus on that because I was shocked to admit that amidst the lunacy and vileness Dr Z kind of had a point. Anyway I have a flight to catch tomorrow morning so I'm off. Where ya going Handy?

Ok, so far 2x Toes 1x Knee 1x Hart 1x Hand 1x Cock

Smart fucker, aren't you.

Loaf collapses but Cliff gets off. A bleak day for rock 'n' roll! That's cruel...but fair.

Yes, that was mentioned the other day. I suppose, If I typed in 'Britains most prolific serial rapists' into Google his name wouldn't come up, would it..

Good.

The Beeb are biased..................

Apologies Handrejka, my comment wasn't even slightly aimed at you, I saw your comment and your apology. It was aimed at Zorders' suggestion that Mr Cox was somehow making hay where Mrs Timms had not, as if this meant anything. I liked the fact that Cat had accepted Willz' challenge to find a gif appropriate to his comment and succeeded, nothing more. I liked none of the Cox jokes, and if you read my post in the by-election bingo thread I made a point of saying I was pleased that her death has scored nobody any points in that particular sideshow. Morbidkid, I like things that engage me enough to make me want to like them, I don't just like anything that vaguely 'supports' my argument, which in this instance is simply that a young woman has been brutally murdered and it's pointless to speculate on motives and responses without the facts. The media will speculate because that's what they do. The politicians are united in grief tonight, and it's not very often we can say that. Hopefully some good can somehow come out of this further down the line. And for future reference, I'm male. Thanks. I hadn't seen Dr Z's post and assumed (there I go again) that it was me. I just saw your post in the by-election bingo thread and I agree with every word. I've seen an awful lot of crap on social media, the most worrying being normal everyday people who seem to be frothing at the mouth in delight that the killer is a white man with links to right wing groups just so they can say how bad Britain First is and they forget that a person has died. I've seen crap from the other side too of course. Fair enough re the like. Yeah, there's plenty of unintelligible bile to go round. I'll admit when it first happened, I hoped the attacker wasn't Halibut as it just played into the hands of that brigade, especially so soon after Orlando. The fact he's white doesn't mean he's a neo nazi or anything, chances are he's got mental issues and latched on to those ideas as a 'purpose', as with most of these people regardless of creed, colour or religion. The point is nobody knows anything so speculating at all is just fairly pointless right now. Maybe it was the kind of joke that could have waited a bit longer, maybe until she was actually buried? What he said. I'm fully aware black humour comes with the territory but the poor lass died in a brutal way less than 12 hours ago. I caught this relatively early on and saw the press conference live where the chief constable confirmed that - far from being in critical condition - she was dead, and I'm not ashamed to say tears came to my eyes. Death is a part of life, but some death is more shocking, more sudden and more unpleasant than others. Personally, I'll never tell anyone off for a joke, each to their own, but I guess it's just a case of reading the general mood. You can tell it's struck a chord when even deathlisters are pretty sombre. Then as far as I can see it's where one personally draws the line. Such is humour and such is where some professional comedians overstep the mark for many people, if the yardstick is exactly how many people or over a certain percentage, then said comedian tones it down or plays to a limited market or ceases to make a living from humour at all. I wouldn't have made the joke either, alternatively I'm not about to jump up and down on somebody who has. To clarify, I wasn't offended by it, infact I didn't even know about it until Handy mentioned it. Its not a part of the forum that interests me. What I will say though is that you cant throw the 'Black Humour' label at something that isn't funny or appropriate and hope it placates people. It does amaze me sometimes, this place is probably the most tolerant and free thinking forums out there, virtually anything goes yet people still don't understand that those that don't share the forum ethos could cause some very serious shit that could have far reaching consequences for individuals as well as the forum. You really have to be VERY careful what you say here, the forum isn't hidden, its not bullet proof and what happened in the past here could easily happen again but with even greater venom and danger to people. By all means think its scaremongering, bullshit or tell everybody that you don't give a shit. Whatever. Funny, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. You cannot say something isn't funny, you can only say something isn't funny to you. Whether something is appropriate is also a judgement call, not an absolute, Some may think something is appropriate, others may not. At least within the confines of a discussion as opposed to turning up for work in a onesie (which one may still argue is appropriate, but rather depends on who is paying whom) I am not unaware of Quantickgate and some of the other history here. If you feel the origin of all this might lead somewhere similar, that's your call, or the moderators. I re-iterate though, it wasn't my comment in the first place, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't appear to be lecturing me on the history of this place. I was pretty unaware of the cox/cocks thing too until it all started getting heated, and the only part I even remotely laughed at was cats gif, and that in isolation i.e without consideration to the reason for it's reason for being posted in the first place. You may find this difficult to believe, but I also feel it is too soon to joke about this awful murder I'm not certain that for me I'd ever find a joke about it funny in its own right. However, I am aware this is how I feel, it may not be how others do and it is not my place to judge them. You seem to feel that it IS your place to judge me (and others), on limited information at that, at any rate that appears to be the case if the rest of your post is in response to what I personally have written and not just scattergunned to anyone. As to the last sentence, again, if that was aimed at me, don't put words in my mouth, or thoughts in my brain, I didn't say or think that. . Who is lecturing you? My comments pertaining to the past here and possible futures was a general comment about the way people may view some of the stuff written on here. I clearly said people from the outset, 'you' was generic so dont assume that 'you' referred to you personally, it didn't. I haven't judged you personally and I haven't judged anybody else, my comments revolved around whether the kind of humour on here is, at times, given the ok because its viewed as black humour. I don't judge Charon by his humour and comments, he is a sound fella so the notion that im making judgement calls on you or anybody else because I think your take on humour isn't mine is utter horseshit. Get over yourself.

I fucking HATE Jeremy Vine. Obviously, I shouldn't hate him because this country is full of hatred but I fucking DO!

For a moment I almost thought that Z had posted up his views on BBC Porn, daft really coz he will only tolerate white knobs.

Apologies Handrejka, my comment wasn't even slightly aimed at you, I saw your comment and your apology. It was aimed at Zorders' suggestion that Mr Cox was somehow making hay where Mrs Timms had not, as if this meant anything. I liked the fact that Cat had accepted Willz' challenge to find a gif appropriate to his comment and succeeded, nothing more. I liked none of the Cox jokes, and if you read my post in the by-election bingo thread I made a point of saying I was pleased that her death has scored nobody any points in that particular sideshow. Morbidkid, I like things that engage me enough to make me want to like them, I don't just like anything that vaguely 'supports' my argument, which in this instance is simply that a young woman has been brutally murdered and it's pointless to speculate on motives and responses without the facts. The media will speculate because that's what they do. The politicians are united in grief tonight, and it's not very often we can say that. Hopefully some good can somehow come out of this further down the line. And for future reference, I'm male. Thanks. I hadn't seen Dr Z's post and assumed (there I go again) that it was me. I just saw your post in the by-election bingo thread and I agree with every word. I've seen an awful lot of crap on social media, the most worrying being normal everyday people who seem to be frothing at the mouth in delight that the killer is a white man with links to right wing groups just so they can say how bad Britain First is and they forget that a person has died. I've seen crap from the other side too of course. Fair enough re the like. Yeah, there's plenty of unintelligible bile to go round. I'll admit when it first happened, I hoped the attacker wasn't Halibut as it just played into the hands of that brigade, especially so soon after Orlando. The fact he's white doesn't mean he's a neo nazi or anything, chances are he's got mental issues and latched on to those ideas as a 'purpose', as with most of these people regardless of creed, colour or religion. The point is nobody knows anything so speculating at all is just fairly pointless right now. Maybe it was the kind of joke that could have waited a bit longer, maybe until she was actually buried? What he said. I'm fully aware black humour comes with the territory but the poor lass died in a brutal way less than 12 hours ago. I caught this relatively early on and saw the press conference live where the chief constable confirmed that - far from being in critical condition - she was dead, and I'm not ashamed to say tears came to my eyes. Death is a part of life, but some death is more shocking, more sudden and more unpleasant than others. Personally, I'll never tell anyone off for a joke, each to their own, but I guess it's just a case of reading the general mood. You can tell it's struck a chord when even deathlisters are pretty sombre. Then as far as I can see it's where one personally draws the line. Such is humour and such is where some professional comedians overstep the mark for many people, if the yardstick is exactly how many people or over a certain percentage, then said comedian tones it down or plays to a limited market or ceases to make a living from humour at all. I wouldn't have made the joke either, alternatively I'm not about to jump up and down on somebody who has. To clarify, I wasn't offended by it, infact I didn't even know about it until Handy mentioned it. Its not a part of the forum that interests me. What I will say though is that you cant throw the 'Black Humour' label at something that isn't funny or appropriate and hope it placates people. It does amaze me sometimes, this place is probably the most tolerant and free thinking forums out there, virtually anything goes yet people still don't understand that those that don't share the forum ethos could cause some very serious shit that could have far reaching consequences for individuals as well as the forum. You really have to be VERY careful what you say here, the forum isn't hidden, its not bullet proof and what happened in the past here could easily happen again but with even greater venom and danger to people. By all means think its scaremongering, bullshit or tell everybody that you don't give a shit. Whatever.

Maybe it was the kind of joke that could have waited a bit longer, maybe until she was actually buried?

Handy is one of the very nicest and best posters on here you knob. Not the best move you have ever made.

When a Halibut kills someone its not all Halibuts and islam is not to blame we mustn't control islam when someone goes nuts with a gun its all gun owners and the gun is to blame we must control all guns You're 100% right about validation maria eagle already using this as political ammo on twitter. I have a feeling we will be seeing alot of this in the future , there is no justification in attacking innocent people like in Florida or anywhere else but people really hate MP's and they effect people's lives big time. If a disabled person attacked and killed IDS because his benefits were stopped would any of us really condemn him ? I can see either Halibuts attacking MP's for supporting certain wars or right wingers attacking MP's who they feel have turned their back on the UK like with today's attack. Wasn't another MP not long ago stabbed with a knife by a person in a burka? Don't remember that getting the same coverage as this. That was Labour MP Stephen Timms in Newham. stabbed by one of his own constituents in the batshit London borough of Newham. And that was in 2010 FFS, I can't imagine how scary that place is now. No it didn't get nearly the coverage, obviously because of who did it. Don't remember his wife ever saying "WE HAVE TO STAMP OUT THE HATE THAT CAUSED THIS!!??!?!?"?"?!2" So scary that he's still the local MP and hasn't had any such incidents since.He was wounded, had surgery and survived. It got the appropriate level of coverage and the attacker was jailed. He was not shot in broad daylight and left in a pool of blood and, furthermore, he was not killed in the attack. As for suggesting the reactions of spouses are anything to go by...just don't. The guy lost the love of his life and somehow has to explain to two kids under 5 why mummy isn't coming home tonight, or ever again. Politics are the furthest thing from his mind right now. I made a mistake which I admitted to. I could have deleted it but I think it proves the danger of jumping to conclusions so should stay. A woman has died in appalling way and a family has been shattered, and that is more or less all we know at the moment. Using it as an excuse to stick it to a user you don't know but have probably never liked is pretty low Just because some people are more measured in their language it doesn't make them better than Dr Z. Everyone using this to score points is as bad as each other. As are the "Tee hee her name sounds a bit like cocks" comments in the By-election Bingo thread. please zorders started this all and is the one trampling on her grave I don't know why you are getting upset at Rover when he is defending her honour. Also could you like my previous arguments on this issue please.How about you shut the f**k up you stupid boy.never stopped you when 130 people were killed in Paris.I had to go back and have a look at my posts on that and, ive got to say, Im not sure what the f**k you are on about.Then again, most people don't either. it's blatantly obvious what I am talking about. You behaved the exact same way with arguments and shot when 130 people died in Paris and now you are acting as if it's wrong when people argue about this even when it's one side DEFENDING her. Where would you have stood on this debate if hand hadn't made this posts that's right you were arguing as well in the post literally before hers. Lets get one thing clear you little turd, Ive never stated that its wrong to discuss the whys and wherefores of her murder anymore than it was when the Paris attacks took place. Of course people are going to discuss and speculate, however, the point which I was making, in reference to previous comments on here and elsewhere, was the fact that people have already decided that the man that killed Jo Cox was a Far Right extremist without ANY evidence and based solely on a supposed comment by the killer which was 'Britain First' Z compared the case of the London MP who was almost killed by a Halibut extremist and the whole point of my post was that extremism should not be viewed differently dependent on Religion or skin colour. Probably the point he was making, maybe. What the f**k is so hard for you to fathom? The Paris murders were carried out by IS supporting extremists and it was KNOWN that they were at the effing time of the murders. Do me a big favour, don't effing comment on anything I post in the future, better still, take a break from here for a while and do us all a favour. PS: Somebody DO SOMETHING about this cunting swear filter!!!

When a Halibut kills someone its not all Halibuts and islam is not to blame we mustn't control islam when someone goes nuts with a gun its all gun owners and the gun is to blame we must control all guns You're 100% right about validation maria eagle already using this as political ammo on twitter. I have a feeling we will be seeing alot of this in the future , there is no justification in attacking innocent people like in Florida or anywhere else but people really hate MP's and they effect people's lives big time. If a disabled person attacked and killed IDS because his benefits were stopped would any of us really condemn him ? I can see either Halibuts attacking MP's for supporting certain wars or right wingers attacking MP's who they feel have turned their back on the UK like with today's attack. Wasn't another MP not long ago stabbed with a knife by a person in a burka? Don't remember that getting the same coverage as this. That was Labour MP Stephen Timms in Newham. stabbed by one of his own constituents in the batshit London borough of Newham. And that was in 2010 FFS, I can't imagine how scary that place is now. No it didn't get nearly the coverage, obviously because of who did it. Don't remember his wife ever saying "WE HAVE TO STAMP OUT THE HATE THAT CAUSED THIS!!??!?!?"?"?!2" So scary that he's still the local MP and hasn't had any such incidents since.He was wounded, had surgery and survived. It got the appropriate level of coverage and the attacker was jailed. He was not shot in broad daylight and left in a pool of blood and, furthermore, he was not killed in the attack. As for suggesting the reactions of spouses are anything to go by...just don't. The guy lost the love of his life and somehow has to explain to two kids under 5 why mummy isn't coming home tonight, or ever again. Politics are the furthest thing from his mind right now. I made a mistake which I admitted to. I could have deleted it but I think it proves the danger of jumping to conclusions so should stay. A woman has died in appalling way and a family has been shattered, and that is more or less all we know at the moment. Using it as an excuse to stick it to a user you don't know but have probably never liked is pretty low Just because some people are more measured in their language it doesn't make them better than Dr Z. Everyone using this to score points is as bad as each other. As are the "Tee hee her name sounds a bit like cocks" comments in the By-election Bingo thread. please zorders started this all and is the one trampling on her grave I don't know why you are getting upset at Rover when he is defending her honour. Also could you like my previous arguments on this issue please.How about you shut the f**k up you stupid boy.never stopped you when 130 people were killed in Paris. I had to go back and have a look at my posts on that and, ive got to say, Im not sure what the fuck you are on about. Then again, most people don't either.

When a Halibut kills someone its not all Halibuts and islam is not to blame we mustn't control islam when someone goes nuts with a gun its all gun owners and the gun is to blame we must control all guns You're 100% right about validation maria eagle already using this as political ammo on twitter. I have a feeling we will be seeing alot of this in the future , there is no justification in attacking innocent people like in Florida or anywhere else but people really hate MP's and they effect people's lives big time. If a disabled person attacked and killed IDS because his benefits were stopped would any of us really condemn him ? I can see either Halibuts attacking MP's for supporting certain wars or right wingers attacking MP's who they feel have turned their back on the UK like with today's attack. Wasn't another MP not long ago stabbed with a knife by a person in a burka? Don't remember that getting the same coverage as this. That was Labour MP Stephen Timms in Newham. stabbed by one of his own constituents in the batshit London borough of Newham. And that was in 2010 FFS, I can't imagine how scary that place is now. No it didn't get nearly the coverage, obviously because of who did it. Don't remember his wife ever saying "WE HAVE TO STAMP OUT THE HATE THAT CAUSED THIS!!??!?!?"?"?!2" So scary that he's still the local MP and hasn't had any such incidents since.He was wounded, had surgery and survived. It got the appropriate level of coverage and the attacker was jailed. He was not shot in broad daylight and left in a pool of blood and, furthermore, he was not killed in the attack. As for suggesting the reactions of spouses are anything to go by...just don't. The guy lost the love of his life and somehow has to explain to two kids under 5 why mummy isn't coming home tonight, or ever again. Politics are the furthest thing from his mind right now. I made a mistake which I admitted to. I could have deleted it but I think it proves the danger of jumping to conclusions so should stay. A woman has died in appalling way and a family has been shattered, and that is more or less all we know at the moment. Using it as an excuse to stick it to a user you don't know but have probably never liked is pretty low Just because some people are more measured in their language it doesn't make them better than Dr Z. Everyone using this to score points is as bad as each other. As are the "Tee hee her name sounds a bit like cocks" comments in the By-election Bingo thread. please zorders started this all and is the one trampling on her grave I don't know why you are getting upset at Rover when he is defending her honour. Also could you like my previous arguments on this issue please. How about you shut the fuck up you stupid boy.

He has already had a quad bypass, im just wondering what the fuck there is left of his heart they can actually repair?

Yeah, it's all going off in the Jimmy Savile thread. I pointed it out over five hours ago but it seems we don't have enough mods who can be bothered enough to moderate. Most of 'em haven't logged on in years and left it to the few who do log on to do it. Those few can't collectively be here all the time. https://forums.deathlist.net/topic/376-jimmy-savile/page-62#entry269081 Anyway........................one of his accusers is going to appeal the CPS decision, apparently.

When a Halibut kills someone its not all Halibuts and islam is not to blame we mustn't control islam when someone goes nuts with a gun its all gun owners and the gun is to blame we must control all guns You're 100% right about validation maria eagle already using this as political ammo on twitter. I have a feeling we will be seeing alot of this in the future , there is no justification in attacking innocent people like in Florida or anywhere else but people really hate MP's and they effect people's lives big time. If a disabled person attacked and killed IDS because his benefits were stopped would any of us really condemn him ? I can see either Halibuts attacking MP's for supporting certain wars or right wingers attacking MP's who they feel have turned their back on the UK like with today's attack. Wasn't another MP not long ago stabbed with a knife by a person in a burka? Don't remember that getting the same coverage as this. That was Labour MP Stephen Timms in Newham. stabbed by one of his own constituents in the batshit London borough of Newham. And that was in 2010 FFS, I can't imagine how scary that place is now. No it didn't get nearly the coverage, obviously because of who did it. Don't remember his wife ever saying "WE HAVE TO STAMP OUT THE HATE THAT CAUSED THIS!!??!?!?"?"?!2" So scary that he's still the local MP and hasn't had any such incidents since. He was wounded, had surgery and survived. It got the appropriate level of coverage and the attacker was jailed. He was not shot in broad daylight and left in a pool of blood and, furthermore, he was not killed in the attack. As for suggesting the reactions of spouses are anything to go by...just don't. The guy lost the love of his life and somehow has to explain to two kids under 5 why mummy isn't coming home tonight, or ever again. Politics are the furthest thing from his mind right now. Ive seen at least three separate feeds now where people have decided that she was the victim of a Far Right Brexit supporting racist conspiracy and it was bound to happen because everybody who wants out of the EU is an extremist under your bed or summat. Can we not be fair here? The shit ive read from monumental fucktards regarding her senseless death are absolutely no different to the kind of shit that was being spouted after the Orlando shooting/assorted terrorist attacks. Z would be more credible if he didn't rant like a effing loon BUT his point is valid, the fact that the London MP survived that attack doesn't diminish the impact and doesn't somehow lessen the point that extremism is extremism and IF the killer of Jo Cox is an extremist of any sort, he should not be viewed as a bigger extremist who is part of a huge extremist problem that dwarfs Halibut extremism just because he is a White Yorkshireman, probably unemployed etc. Society has a big f**k off problem, to a greater degree, overt liberalism has caused much of the extremism we are now seeing yet it views the solution to the problem as being even more liberal. I think we are all a bit fucked tbh.