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and Adriano Celentano <puts hand up> I've got one ! Franco Nero

I've never heard of either of these people. Maybe I never was very European after all.

No need for the sigh. It matters. Having sex with a willing teenager should never, ever be equated with having sex with a prepubescent child. As for your second point, yes, quite likely. Particularly in the US, where the age of consent varies and is or has been as high as 21 in some states. It's always been really common for girls to want to have "underage" sex when (a) nature decides they're ready for it and (b ) they find someone they want to have sex with. There's nothing pervy about it. People can't pick and choose what laws they want to obey, though. Whether or not you personally agree with it, having sex with a willing teenager is equated with having sex with a prepubescent child in the eyes of the law much of the time. I think you'll find that the latter is treated more seriously. As it should be. But my original point was that the latter is paedophilia, while the former is not. Yes I realise the latter is Hebephilia or Ephebophilia but in the popular press "paedophilia" has been used as the catch-all expression for all of them (whether that is laziness on their part or note I will leave you to judge.) Does the law really classify them very differently though? Isn't it all consorting with a minor? At any rate, Bowie and co had the obligation to be aware of the law and uphold it whilst touring. Of course, he was probably so far out of his mind in those days (by taking drugs and thereby breaking other laws!) that he probably didn't know which way was up let alone how old any given girl was... It is ignorance, and the encouragement of ignorance, which you seem happy to promote. And if you can't see the difference between consorting with a consenting sexually mature young person and abusing a child, then I despair.

No need for the sigh. It matters. Having sex with a willing teenager should never, ever be equated with having sex with a prepubescent child. As for your second point, yes, quite likely. Particularly in the US, where the age of consent varies and is or has been as high as 21 in some states. It's always been really common for girls to want to have "underage" sex when (a) nature decides they're ready for it and (b ) they find someone they want to have sex with. There's nothing pervy about it. People can't pick and choose what laws they want to obey, though. Whether or not you personally agree with it, having sex with a willing teenager is equated with having sex with a prepubescent child in the eyes of the law much of the time. I think you'll find that the latter is treated more seriously. As it should be. But my original point was that the latter is paedophilia, while the former is not.

No one likes us, we don't care

Interesting comment apparently from The Guardian. I haven't looked for the original, just copied this from a post elsewhere.

Nice try! But don't give up hope. I fucked a 15 year old boy when I was 17.

His hand's blurred. He must have moved while the photographer was pressing the button!

We won't be allowed to buy Euromillions tickets any more, will we?

I watched some of the Wales v NI match, but was fatally confused by the Welsh goalkeeper's name being Hennessey.

Boo

No need for the sigh. It matters. Having sex with a willing teenager should never, ever be equated with having sex with a prepubescent child. As for your second point, yes, quite likely. Particularly in the US, where the age of consent varies and is or has been as high as 21 in some states. It's always been really common for girls to want to have "underage" sex when (a) nature decides they're ready for it and (b ) they find someone they want to have sex with. There's nothing pervy about it.

Shagging a 15 year old has nothing to do with paedophilia. If people insist on changing the meaning of the word through consistent incorrect usage, what word will we have left to describe what it really means?

This is the best thing in Witney. http://www.wychwood.co.uk

Ok now I have no idea what your political flow chart must look like, though the cat coughed up a fur ball and I'm getting a visual. I thought this was limited to MPs..... Ahh but MPFC infers Cameron is wearing two hats? I'm at a loss. SirC David Cameron is the elected Member of Parliament for the constituency of Whitney in Oxfordshire. He is also the leader of the Conservative Party and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Just for the sake of accuracy ..... It's Witney. (Nowhere near Houston.)

Your place or ours?

As a bit of light relief, here's what some daft bimbo posted on the local Facebook page I'll be glad when it's all over with - and the Euros so I can get back to the regular soaps! Maybe I should vote leave as then England won't be in the Euros next time and it won't be all over the telly as much.

I shall be going down there shortly with the dog. She hasn't voted before, to my knowledge.

For foxake. Take 2 Valium and lie down. Thread. Is that like when people say "Tune." ?

I've got my indelible pen ready.

Turn the question around. Do you want to leave your spouse? The don't know becomes a request for a better offer. Do we have one? Not necessarily. There is also the freedom to play the field

I didn't realise that people who are not famous were eligible picks. Personally I feel that it crosses a line. Someone is going to pick their granny, or a cancer-stricken neighbour.

I love that word.

If someone steals your names, can you add some new ones?