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So tired of the sniping at the original Band Aid, mostly coming from people who were not around at the time. This guy was, though, and he seems to have completely missed the point. "To say: 'Do they know it’s Christmas?’ is funny, it is insulting," says Dawit Giorgis, who in 1984 was the Ethiopian official responsible for getting the message out about what was happening in his country. His incredulity decades on is obvious in his voice and he remembers how he and his colleagues responded to the song. "It was so untrue and so distorted. Ethiopia was a Christian country before England… we knew Christmas before your ancestors," he tells the BBC. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dl22gz3vlo FFS! It wasn't about whether they were Christians. It was saying that the people were in such dire straits, starving and dying, that they probably wouldn't be aware of it being Christmas (or any other celebration). They had more important things to deal with. .... the chorus of disapproval about the track, its stereotypical representation of an entire continent - describing it as a place "where nothing ever grows; no rain nor rivers flow" - and the way that recipients of the aid have been viewed as emaciated, helpless figures, has become louder over time. It was also specifically about Ethiopia, where the famine was, and not Africa in general. And "emaciated, helpless figures" was what we were seeing on the news. Yes, it says "there won't be snow in Africa" but that's because "Ethiopia" doesn't scan. It's called poetic licence.

Noted he doesn't guarantee his own presence. He does look OK though.

So sorry that you, your mother and your family have had to endure this. Among other emotions you must be feeling relieved, and that is OK.

Sun 24 Nov 70 No Doubt - Just a Girl 70 The Source ft. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Now Voyager Mix) 53 Radiohead - Paranoid Android 48 Faithless - Insomnia 44 Suede - Trash 25 The Seahorses - Love Is The Law +4 23 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity -6 17 Backstreet Boys - As Long As You Love Me 15 Eternal - Don’t You Love Me  

Sun 24 Nov 37 George Ezra — Paradise +4 35 Mark Ronson ft. Miley Cyrus — Nothing Breaks Like A Heart 26 Calvin Harris & Rag’n’Bone Man — Giant 25 Dua Lipa — Don’t Start Now 20 Ramz — Barking 20 Regard — Ride It 19 Marshmello ft. Bastille — Happier 19 Ariana Grande — No Tears Left To Cry  18 Billie Eilish — Bad Guy -6 15 Meduza ft. Goodboys — Piece Of Your Heart 14 Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus & Lana Del Rey — Don’t Call Me Angel 12 Aitch — Taste

Sat 23 Nov 35 George Ezra — Paradise  +4 29 Mark Ronson ft. Miley Cyrus — Nothing Breaks Like A Heart 27 Billie Eilish — Bad Guy 26 Calvin Harris & Rag’n’Bone Man — Giant 25 Dua Lipa — Don’t Start Now 21 Meduza ft. Goodboys — Piece Of Your Heart 20 Ramz — Barking 20 Regard — Ride It 20 Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus & Lana Del Rey — Don’t Call Me Angel 19 Marshmello ft. Bastille — Happier 18 Ariana Grande — No Tears Left To Cry 12 Aitch — Taste 00 Little Mix ft. Nicki Minaj — Woman Like Me -6

List of the Missed is previous picks, isn't it? Was she picked before?

Sat 23 Nov 76 The Source ft. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Now Voyager Mix) +4 70 No Doubt - Just a Girl 53 Radiohead - Paranoid Android 48 Faithless - Insomnia 42 Suede - Trash +4 25 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity 21 Backstreet Boys - As Long As You Love Me 20 The Seahorses - Love Is The Law 19 Katrina and the Waves - Love Shine a Light 15 Eternal - Don’t You Love Me  00 The Charlatans - One to Another -6

I don't think this was ever resolved I seem to remember some speculation that chimney might be a slang term for a black eye, but that may have been a wild guess.

I'll just leave this here.

Fri 22 Nov 78 The Source ft. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Now Voyager Mix) 70 No Doubt - Just a Girl 53 Radiohead - Paranoid Android 48 Faithless - Insomnia 38 Suede - Trash 29 The Seahorses - Love Is The Law +4 27 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity 21 Backstreet Boys - As Long As You Love Me -6 18 Eternal - Don’t You Love Me   14 Katrina and the Waves - Love Shine a Light 09 The Charlatans - One to Another 

John Prescott for me too. Esther Rantzen takes his place (alphabetically too, which is convenient!) New sub - Ted Turner.

I've got John Prescott.

Thu 21 Nov 84 The Source ft. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Now Voyager Mix) 70 No Doubt - Just a Girl 53 Radiohead - Paranoid Android 48 Faithless - Insomnia 40 Suede - Trash 32 The Seahorses - Love Is The Law +4 25 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity -2 23 Backstreet Boys - As Long As You Love Me -2 20 Katrina and the Waves - Love Shine a Light -2 18 Eternal - Don’t You Love Me   12 The Charlatans - One to Another

Would you assemble the players first and then allocate the letters randomly?

If you can extrapolate her mother's maiden name from the parents' marriage and add it to the search, that might confirm. Looks like this is her though. GRO doesn't give mmn for births in the last 100 years, but if you know it and enter it in the search, it shows up in the result. Maybe SP works the same way?

Was she born in Scotland though? If so, it won't be on FreeBMD or GRO as they only cover England and Wales. Anybody got Scotland's People? Not sure what range of BMDs they have.

Was it? Search didn't pick it up, not on this thread anyway. It was late so I didn't look anywhere else. Anyway it's here now, for completeness.

Dennis Bryon apparently dead too. Two Bee Gees drummers die within days of one another "The band’s original drummer, Colin Petersen, died four days before Dennis Bryon, who played throughout their imperial Saturday Night Fever phase"

Wed 20 Nov 84 The Source ft. Candi Staton - You Got The Love (Now Voyager Mix) 70 No Doubt - Just a Girl 53 Radiohead - Paranoid Android 48 Faithless - Insomnia 45 Suede - Trash 34 The Seahorses - Love Is The Law +4 29 Katrina and the Waves - Love Shine a Light -6 21 Jamiroquai - Virtual Insanity 25 Backstreet Boys - As Long As You Love Me 18 The Charlatans - One to Another 18 Eternal - Don’t You Love Me  

Exactly. But people are now being influenced and encouraged to regard it as rape. No, it isn't and I'm pleased that you agree with me. The Pelicot case is egregious. That's not what I said. Anyway I am not going to discuss this any further. I won't be moved from my opinion that there are degrees of severity, just as there are in cases of causing bodily harm or death.

I disagree entirely. There is an enormous gulf between being violently attacked and raped by some hideous stinking stranger who jumps out of a dark alley, and your partner making love to you when you didn't really feel like it because you were too tired or had a headache or whatever. Yet we are now conditioned to regard these as equal. It is nonsense.

a preliminary charge of having "sexual intercourse with someone who is unconscious or for other reasons unable to resist the act"....... ......The charge was brought by the police, not the woman who was allegedly raped, according to her lawyer ...... ...... Details are unclear but police said there was "a relationship between the suspect and the victim". Sounds like a domestic rather than violent stranger rape. (Yes, I consider there is a huge difference.) Shagged the girlfriend while she was asleep or drunk?

Re the inheritance tax on farms. I imagine what the government is trying to do is catch the billionaires who have bought up farmland as a tax-avoiding measure. But setting the bar at £1m is way too low. Similar mistake they made with the winter fuel payment - too many of the less well-off caught in the net.