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I never forgot him, because I had never heard of him.

His pop career was brilliant.

Can he hold out 30 days? Not holding my breath.

They'll both be about this time next year.

British 'true' ghost story collector/author Peter Underwood dead aged 91.

Bit surprising - which feels odd to say given her age admittedly - as she seemed to have the energy of a much younger person, especially compared to some of the walking dead on the list. That's life for you.

Tony Booth (b 1931) . He's probably quite tired, on account of both his failing health and on account of his son in law still being Tony Blair. Nicholas Winton (b 1909), as he is very old, and possibly a secret immortal. Derren Nesbitt (b 1935), alcoholic who once thought of as a potential bright light in British acting, only to become a bit of a non-entity after he beat up his wife. Was a villain in Dr Who back in the 1960s. Jose Gonlazes, Invader 1 (born circa 1940s) - promoter and wrestler from Puerto Rico famous for murdering Bruiser Brody in the showers of an arena over a pay dispute, then getting involved in the cover up of the murder and completely getting away with it. He's not going to die anytime soon, but you did ask for one no one cares about. Jimmy Hill.

Let the bells ring out for tolling: Mike Burney dead. And so the cull of the 2015 shortlist continues.

Already been ruled out. The SNP currently target the left of centre voter disenfranchised by Labour's meltdown, so jumping into bed with the Tories would be electoral suicide for them.

Having a nap, was woken by my wife who said "The Deathlist is going to be in mourning, Clive Dunn is bloody dead." Looks unrealistic written down, but that's honestly how I found out.

Repeating a trend from 2013, the proposed joker died in October.

Ludvig Borga shot himself in 2010, yes, but never made a Rumble. He was scheduled for a preliminary match for the 1994 one but injured long before it. And the first Doink, Matt Borne, died. The second, Phil Apollo, and whoever else has played the role is still in the land of the living. By the time of Doink's rumble debut, Borne had left the WWE. In the same way Captain Beefheart went down on the DDP and Deathlist as Captain Beefheart and not Don, wrestlers are known in real life by their stage names mostly, except in the odd ocassion that the guy behind the character becomes as well known outwith. The aforementioned Mick Foley, for example. As for the survivors list, its got 300 names, most of whom wouldn't obit if it was the only story of the year. The dead list shows the repeated nature of the beast - that its a ground rife for picks based on time, and age. But since you asked so nicely, here's a big list full of names no one has heard of who wont obit. Stats are meaningless sans context, however.

With the Royal Rumble around the corner (January counts) and with Spade noting the recent propensity for The Sun to obit vaguely famous pro-wrestlers, I decided to create a stupidly long list. More than WrestleMania or the titles, the Rumble is the snapshot of Vince McMahon's world each year, with a high number of decorated performers (and the Red Rooster) who would get obits. First off, here are the all the royal rumbles, with the competitors who are now deceased. 1988 - Ultimate Warrior, Dino Bravo, Junkyard Dog (3 dead, 17 alive of 20) 1989 - Andre the Giant, Mr Perfect, Bad News Brown, Randy Savage, Big Bossman, Big John Studd, Hercules (7, 23/30) 1990 - Randy Savage, Bad News Brown, Andre the Giant, Dino Bravo, Earthquake, Warrior, Rick Rude, Hercules, Mr Perfect (9, 21/30) 1991 - Dino Bravo, Texas Tornado, Hercules, Bulldog, Hawk, Randy Savage, Crush, Earthquake, Mr Perfect (9, 21/30) 1992 - Bulldog, Tornado, Bossman, Hercules, Randy Savage (5, 25/30) 1993 - Mr Perfect, Earthquake, Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Randy Savage (5, 25/30) 1994 - Owen Hart, Randy Savage, Crush, Bam Bam Bigelow, Mabel, Bastion Booger (6, 24/30) 1995 - Bulldog, Owen, Mabel, Dick Murdoch, Steven Dunn, Crush (6, 24/30) 1996 - Mabel, Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Bulldog (4, 26/30) 1997 - Crush, Bulldog, Owen (3, 27/30) 1998 - Owen Hart (1, 26/27) 1999 - Mabel, Test, Bossman, Owen (4, 26/30) 2000 - Viscera, Bossman, Test, Bulldog, Crash Holly (5, 25/30) 2001 - Test, Crash (2, 28/30) 2002 - Bossman, Test, Mr Perfect (3, 27/30) 2003 - Eddie Guerrero, Test, Jamal/Umaga (3, 27/30) 2004 - Benoit (1, 29/30) 2005 - Eddie, Benoit, Viscera (3, 27/30) 2006 - Benoit, Viscera (2, 28/30) 2007 - Benoit, Viscera (2, 28/30) * 2008 - Umaga, Viscera (2, 28/30) 2009 - all living (30/30) 2010 - all living (30/30) 2011 - all living (40/40) 2012 - all living (30/30) 2013 - all living (30/30) 2014 - all living (30/30) Some close calls with the last few though including Matt Hardy's DUI/fake suicide/madness in 2010, R-Truth's nearly fatal pneumonia in 2010, and Jerry Lawler's becoming a zombie in 2012. I've also cheated including Booger in 1994 and Savage in 1991, but they were mentioned as having "skipped" the match on the commentary, whilst there was no PPV explanation for DOA Skull missing out in the 1998 one. So, with all that worked out, a look at potential DDP types from the Rumble. Bret Hart - Stroke in 2002, Post-Concussion Syndrome too, but seems to have mended well since then. On the other hand, he's a Hart, so he might get eaten by a holidaying crocodile in Calgary tomorrow. He's not going to die anytime soon, but is a definite obit when the time comes. Jim Neidhart - Bret's brother in law. Recently a jailbird, drug issues, and looks like hell. He's 60 next year, he'd do well if he sees 65. Jake Roberts - You know him. Attracting cancer like an Express headline just now. A certain obit. Either an excellent pick because hes got a lot of nasty health issues that would see off a normal man and is a recovering mega drug and alcohol addict. Or not, because he's Jake and he survives. Harley Race - Aging legend, survived polio, obit certainty. But will surely go on for another decade or there abouts. Don Muraco - Former steroid user who let himself go and is 66 next year. Hacksaw Jim Duggan - Survived kidney cancer. On the pudgy side and 61 next year. Sam Houston - Unlikely to obit unless part of the Jake story (they are brothers) but a long term jailbird and has drug issues. Demolition Ax - heart issues Marty Jannetty - drugged up incoherent mess, likely obit due to relationship with Shawn Michaels. One of my top contenders for least surprising future Spade or Lewd Squirrel death update in this thread in the future. 54 next year. The Warlord - He was to steroids what Bill Gates is to making money. A risky obit (he had runs in the NWA and WWF, and a feud with the British Bulldog) but frankly I'm surprisd he's still alive. 53 next year. Dusty Rhodes - Fat and nearly 70. Paul Roma - Only 54, and no idea on health, but the loud idiots in wrestling tend to find early graves. See O'Haire, Sean. Also see the future mention of Billy Jack Haynes in this thread, circa 2015/2016. Ric Flair - Ignores blood clots till the last minute, flies with them, drinks to excess, doesn't take care of himself. If he sees 70, its a miracle. (He's 66 next year) Obit guaranteed. Sid - Favourite big man, hospitalised for a month with heart issues last year. 55 next year. Chyna - Yeah, the question is when, not if. Mick Foley - Multiple concussions, memory issues as a result. Injured everything at least once. Best selling author too and RAINN spokesperson so obit guaranteed. Seems (sadly) nailed on to do a Rik Mayall at some point. There's also the Curse of 14th place (people who take this spot seem to die prematurely according to fan lore) which points at: Jannetty, Haku, Berzerker, 2nd Doink the Clown, Jacob Blu, Doug Gilbert, Goldust, Ken Shamrock, Kurrgann, Bob Backlund, The Goodfather, DDP, Rikishi, Orlando Jordan, Joey Mercury, Jeff Hardy, Finlay, MVP, Chris Masters, Jinder Mahal, Rey Mysterio, Kevin Nash. Most of whom have their own health or addiction issues. Or are Bob Backlund. Or Haku. *When you consider 2 of the World title challengers at the 2007 PPV (Umaga and Test) are dead too, Mr Kennedy must be shitting himself.

'bout fuckin' time frankly, quite a few DJs (myself included once over) have bored listeners by putting "Taurus" back to back with "Stairway to Heaven." Bring on It's a Beautiful Day dragging the surviving Deep Purple Mk 2s into court to question the parentage of "Child in Time." None of these people at the time seriously thought they were writing music that would have such staying power, or so many lawyers making money off it 45 years later. Oh aye, and The Blues Magoos might have summat to say about Deep Purple's "Black Night"...I could go on but, rant over! Jon Lord never hid that fact though - quite the opposite! The thing about Stairway is that Randy California had all the time in the world to sue but didn't, because all he wanted was a thank you or acknowledgement from the Zep boys. Which never came. Now, whoever holds rights to his music must see this as an easy money maker. From memory, California's band toured with Zeppelin in the late 60s, playing Taurus as part of their gig. Within a few years, Zep release a highly familiar sounding song. Its a bigger open and shut case than My Sweet Lord.

I've got to hand it to that Dutch-Moroccan fella who shot him........ killing Van Gogh in the street was the perfect way to refute those silly allegations he made that Islam is somehow, like, violent or something. Such a witty riposte. It did prove Van Gogh's "no one shoots the village idiot" statement wrong though.

And Monoclinic And DDT. Now most of the DDP need to do their own research.

"We gave our panel 100 seconds to name as many pornogrind artists as they could. Podium 1?" "Err...Candye Kane?" "Sorry" says Richard Osman, "That's not the type of thing we were thinking about."

Colin Bloomfield reminds everyone he is still hanging on with just over 2 months till the 2015 DDP starts then.

Agreed, but one I'd find difficult to include on mine for the same reason some folk on here used to have with Harry Patch.

As has, alas, the misspelling of Ian Paisley's name!

Well, I liked Whitlam (and my opinion of most Australian PMs tends to be rather low) - economies tend to have ephemeral swings, policies which aid the vulnerable in society tend to last far longer. Bit like Harold Wilson in that respect. John Kerr, on the other hand, was a sod.

Sorry to hear of your loss, LG. Best wishes at this time.

All the President's Dead. With Bradlee, Cantlie Sr and Bellingham going in the same week, I can forsee someone somewhere tearing up their 2015 DDP shortlist.

Indeedy Charon, bad taste but highly logical pick. Trundling home with the radio news on a casual listener might have been fooled into thinking The Daleks had mounted an appeal to save John Cantlie. No longer a logical pick.

He lasted over 40 years longer than the two wrestlers he accidentally killed in ring.