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http://www.deathlist...ndpost&p=154594 So, at the end of last year, after several arguments over time about the DL not picking older folk, I came up with the Old People Deathlist in the 2011 version of this thread. With about a year passed, it -containing the oldest people I could find who might have been noteworthy, minus the famous for existing war vets - has success rate of 13/50. 1. Miriam Seegar 1907- Jan 2nd 2011 (Telegraph obit) 2. Ruby Muhammed 1907- 2nd March 2011 3. Dorothy Young 1907- 20th March 2011 (Telegraph obit) 4. Wade Mainer 1907-12th September 2011 (Guardian obit) 5. Alfred Proksch 1908 – 3rd January 2011 6. Dolores Hope 1909 – 19th September 2011 (BBC obit) 7. Paulette Dubost 1910 – 21st September 2011 (Guardian obit) 8. Edmundo Ros 1910 – 21st October 2011 (Guardian obit) 9. Otakar Vavra 1911 – 15th September 2011 (Guardian obit) 10. Maurice Goldhaber 1911 – 11th May 2011* 11. Ernesto Sabato 1911 – 30th April 2011 (BBC obit) 12. Pierre Dansereau 1911 – 28th September 2011 13. Otto Von Hapsburg 1912 – 4th July 2011 (Telegraph obit) (I just picked the first British obit that showed up on Google, some got several) Note that 4 of those people didn't get British obits up to this point. The most bizarre being Goldhaber, who has been mentioned several times by The Guardian this year, including in two other obits, yet hasn't gotten one of his own. Maybe they don't know he's dead? Despite the decent number of hits, there is no way of predicting which of the 50 will go. Otto VH, a relative youngster on the pool, went whilst Federica Sagor Maas and Johannes Heesters still live on. Take away the four without obits, and you get 9/50 heading into December, which isn't that far off an average Deathlist year. Plus, unlike the Deathlist, you have to second guess the whim of one or two Obit writers - a few above got one obit and one alone to qualify. So whilst picking lots of very very old folk may seem like a key to success, it doesn't seem to bring up much more success than any other path. Crucially, if this team was cut off at 20 for a DDP team, it'd have scored 5 out of 20, with 2 DQ'd for no obit. Well, I found this experiment very interesting. I may well be the only one. List of the Currently Alive (as far as I can tell) from said list: 6th July 1900 – Frederica Sagor Maas 5th December 1903 – Johannes Heesters 30th April 1905 – Sergey Nikolsky 18th December 1905 – Irving Kahn 18th January 1907 – Lina Haag (WWII German resistance fighter) 25th February 1907 – Kathryn Wasserman Davis 1st April 1907 – Dr Sree Sree Shivakumara Swamiji 24th August 1907 – Bruno Giacometti (architect) 23rd November 1907 – Run Run Shaw 12th December 1907 – Roy Douglas 15th December 1907 – Oscar Niemeyer 26th May 1908 – Nguyen Ngoc Tho (first PM of South Vietnam) 11th December 1908 – Elliot Carter 11th December 1908 – Manoel de Oliveira (film director) 1st February 1909 – George Beverly Shea 22nd April 1909 – Rita Levi-Montalcini (1986 Nobel Medicine Prize) 19th May 1909 – Nicholas Winton 12th January 1910 – Luise Rainer 25th March 1910 – Magda Olivero (Italian soprano) 29th December 1910 – Ronald Coase (1991 Nobel Economics Prize) 1st January 1911 – Roman Totenberg (violinist) 25th January 1911 – Kurt Maetzig (German director) 28th January 1911 – Johan Van Hulst 9th March 1911 – Ebby Halliday 10th May 1911 – Bel Kaufman 20th June 1911 – Paul Pietsch (German racer) 1st July 1911 – Sergei Sokolov 18th August 1911 – Amelia Boynton Robinson (civil rights activist) 10th October 1911 – Clare Hollingworth (journalist) 3rd February 1912 – Mary Carlisle 1st March 1912 – Boris Chertok (Russian rocket designer) 17th April 1912 – Marta Eggerth 1st October 1912 – Kathleen Ollenrenshaw 1st November 1912 – Gunther Plaut 17th December 1912 – Edward Short 22nd January 1913 – Henry Bauchau 10th February 1913 – Douglas Slocombe

- nice one Ron! (1:20 into the clip). And thanks for dropping by from time to time, CriticalDivide, we appreciate the updates. I think Ronnie should stay at #1 and Clive at #50 till they pop off, which will probably be another 10 years at least. Agreed. Has the Deathlist ever had someone take such a public interest in their placing? He's like the mascot.

Call me cynical but I have my doubts.

Barry Windham, former World Champion in WCW and Four Horsemen member, and who more recently worked backstage for the WWE, has had what appears to be a massive heart attack. His outlook is unsure. Sad news.

Very sorry to hear that. Thoughts for you and yours at this time.

If he was diagnosed today msc must be able to see into the future. He predicted it on the 21st Hey, I know the Blake Edwards/James Moody thing was unfortunate (sorry again for folk who had them on their lists) but I seriously saw a link to it on Twitter. No prophecies.

Sorry to hear of your loss. Best wishes for you and yours at this sad time.

ouch, nice, I am 'daemon and a fascist' according to our friend, you haven't a clue mate. I sleep well at night, within reason, but I am damn sure if you piss me off I will tell you. You can take the girl out of Glasgow but never try and take Glasgow out of the girl. You have ruined the forum with your inane posts and a line has to be drawn. Yep, Glasgow is like malaria, it's with you for life.

Labour only have themselves to blame for not winning the election, because they were shit. The only decent opposition were the Tories who are never going to win anything up here.

Of course the bloody Grim Reaper isn't on strike. The year has been full of deaths. That they haven't been on the 50 on the list doesn't stop that being a completely twattish remark.

And yet, I'm not embarrassed.

9th July 2012

Bernard Lovell So old he was the inspiration for Quatermass, once got into an argument with a pal on live radio, and someone I keep thinking is long dead, even though he is alive, but frail, at 97.

The other day I was on the tube, and the guy opposite had a big bag with "Pierre Cardin" written on it, which got in everyones way. I view this to be a sign, and have gone with Cardin.

Shame, she was great in I Claudius. She was flagged up in February and April on the forum too. She's lasted just one episode. "The character made her debut in last Tuesday's episode ... but the actress is now said to have left the soap due to a "personal matter". I'm assuming the "personal matter" was slightly more serious after all.

You know, in an episode of Callan I just happened to be watching last night, Callan is berated by a coroner for claiming another man had committed suicide without the full facts to make such a claim. I can't help but feel this is a worthwhile moral to take in such cases. Sudden heart attacks do happen to 50 year olds in stressful jobs after all.

There's been recent rumblings, mostly by Brian Glanville, connecting Havelange replacing Rous as FIFA boss in the 70s with the start of the decline and corruption that has led to recent events. Don't think that's what NAG was on about though. Wont shed any tears of Mr Warners FIFA job though. Dreadful man.

People had that feeling about Foot for ages. He was 97, bound to go at some point. (The same can be said for Claude Levi-Strauss!) The only news about Mandela's health as of now is that he is a frail 93 year old, and that isn't news in itself. Like how Christopher Lees appearance at the BAFTAs doesn't mean he is going to drop dead this year, it just meant he is nearly 90!

BBC are tweeting the sad death of Roy Skelton, voice artist in Doctor Who and Rainbow. @BBCNews BBC News Roy Skelton, voice of TV show Rainbow's Zippy & George, has died aged 79. He was also one of the original voices of the Dr Who Daleks

Corrie?

Well, she'll definitely be dead by 2020. That's my putting my neck out prediction.

Well, Lawrence Ferlinghetti is still alive for one, 92 this year. One of those people I keep forgetting is still with us, not like a Beat poet to make his 90s!

Oh, LB, I am very sorry to hear of your loss. Best wishes to your extended family and family to be at this dreadful time. My thoughts are with you.

He's been in that famous celeb nursing/retirement home (I forget the name) for a year or two now. Films have been slightly out of the question for a while.

Never heard of her, but she's dead anyway. As for Bowen, he seems to be recovering from this round of strokes, but he doesn't strike as the type to last past 80.