Octopus of Odstock

Most interesting that it wasn't just in the Telegraph, but Brooke Astor's plight was on the front page. There's no doubt now, that she will get a UK obit, which had been a worry of mine.

The one in colour is Donna Dixon, the one in black & white is Natalie Wood.

Yes, but only because I'm into motor racing. I don't think he will get an obit for two reasons:- 1) motor racing drivers, unless British, tend not to. Johnny Servoz-Gavin & Doug Serrurier (who died this year) were both accomplished drivers, who raced in F1 & were well-known in their country. UK general news coverage - diddly squat. 2) Buck Baker, the NASCAR legend, died recently (last two yrs or so) and got almost zero UK coverage, bar Autosport, the motor racing magazine. But you never know, and I will add him to I & P's fortwith.

Ah, I see (I think). Thanks for the explanation. I would personally think that at Anne's age travelling a lot is not as big a factor as it is, for, say the Pope, but that's your list and I've got mine and others have this one.

No way, he'll be here for years yet. He'll outlive Borgnine, but both of them may outlive one of the younger names on the list.

Okay, he's not on THE I & P list, but here's where it comes down to notability, and I think this man's got it: Carl Brashear, whose story was told in the film Men of Honor, has died. A true legend, and not just in deep sea diving or US Naval history, either. Obit

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1773 Pictorial Evidence, CP. As David Coleman used to say "two-one!"

Good God, I've just watched I Told You I Was Ill.. A Tribute to Spike Milligan on BBC4 tonight, he was on that, filmed last year. Link here, by the way.

I'm going to do it, just so I get it over & done with. Although not on holiday, computer access between 31 Jul-4 Aug is v. limited, so I might as well get it done this week. Currently doing M, N & O, then going to bed.

Indian Monster Eater retires That's monster eater as in eating a lot, not someone who eats monsters.

One - they will dwindle anyway. Two - you read through it, and think, hmmm won't, maybe & likely to die and then choose from there, I guess. You'll end up with say 70-80 really good choices, maybe less, and you go from there. I have a longlist of 220 odd names for DDP. I add, delete, promote & demote names as news comes in - I'm sure others do too, and it is possible for you to do the same. Anyway, F**k waiting around, I'll do L-Z & then we'll work out what to do - it'll only bother me otherwise.

No, I won't miss him out. He's been added on to the file of suggestions L-Z to be added not on the list, along with the other DL candidates, etc.

All I know about the numbers on the left, is the higher they are, the more likely they will die according to RA. But I don't know how he arrives at that - for example Princess Anne has 49 and John Astin 41 - does that really mean Anne is likely to die first, even though Astin's older & a smoker? Also I am confused about how recent the information is. RA has listed cancer etc, but does that mean they have it now, or have had it before & beaten it? Jane Andrews? Still on life support? I'm not sure that's true. I'm not sure Neil Armstrong's that overweight, either.. It's the numbers on the right I don't understand either. What does Buzz Aldrin 25 mean, or Shoko Asahara/Giancarlo Antognioni, 50? Don't get me wrong, it's well researched, but I think we need a general explanation from RA. That's what I need to try & work out if I do any incorporate any of this into any list.

I say keep on doing your list the way you see fit OoO. This is your thread. Actually, it's Phantom's idea. It's his thread as well. I think having two lists - mine & RA's will work, but only if there's different names for people to peruse. That's why I'm confused, as RA has incorporated the A list here into his A list, and also included the DDP list of A's, with numbers which further confuse me. I don't see any point including names just because there on the DDP, as people can check there. That's why I would like clarification if before I do L-Z so I'm not wasting my time preparing something that is already prepared.

Definitely Newton Abbott, and it was the 1st January. When trying to find out anything about her, I stumbled on a genealogy website, and there she is Norah Baker (her real name) b. 1/1/1907, Plymouth district. So, the birthdate is right, but its what happened to her that's the question. If she is dead, she died before 1984, that much I can tell you.

I'm confused. Are you going to do the list now? Do I need to bother doing L-Z & any more updates? Do I have to update ALL your names into the I & P list? Is your list parallel to the list already, or an extra list or in place of the list? One thing right now - I'm not going to bother continuing if this I & P thread is to list every single name under the sun. For that, all of you can buy a who's who, or check the DDP for a list of candidates or Rotten Ali can post his own A-Z list and I'll point out anything worth noting. I'll carry on if it's just the good DL I & P suggestions - its manageable. If it's all these names, F**k it. RA, Princess Anne? You're having a laugh... and this is NOT me being sniffy - it's a) genuinally confused as to what RA has planned and b ) wanting to have some time away from DL - a list of a gazillion names will bugger that up. I'll wait for clarification from RA before I do any more edits..

Tra-a-la-a-la! The thread appears re-opened, I see. CP: i prediyct some immiment stupifdty iN tHAt threaad. EDIT Ah ha! The curse of iain's predictions strikes again, I see it is closed again. Probably my fault.

Fool. I'm keeping you on the Ideas & Possibilities list, now. :skill2:

I f you knnew anyth hign about meidcine Candiuan Pual you would KNow tHART he has ImmIMENT lunG cancer. I exppect an annOUBNCemnet tonight about his d ea TH I also prEDIct that due to THe deATH of Mako, that MicHAEl Foot will die imminently, as they both s ha re the s\SMAME first lettrer in their name. I f i am wrogn about this, I will leave deathLISt forEVER due to sh aame. Seriously, CP, don't worry. Also, with the Near Misses, if you think they're clearly famous enough, but not on the list, put them on - I think that was the general rule.

Not only the list, my dear CP, but myself. I mentioned him a smidgeon earlier than yourself, yesterday morning at 14 minutes past 10am (says the DL clock). Now Iain's gone, it's clear we're all taking on his traits.

C'mon CP, it's been 4 days now! May I belately offer Phantom: Giselle Bundchen plus these gals, living or dead were mighty fine in their day:

Genarians Website Norah Baring has been killed off. It's a very fair argument, and what's more even the established film researchers cannot find any trace of her. That won't help the two people who picked her on DDP, that's for sure.

We're still waiting with baited breath....... By the way, we're also still waiting for your formal statement on Michael Anderson's condition. Why not kill two birds with one stone?

Do you have a link to this news? Ah, no matter, I've found it. Two die as sculpture blows free. So, not exactly a bouncy castle..

No disrespect, Iain, but if you knew anything about reading comprehension, you'll find that's exactly what I was saying.