Jimmy Griffin

[faustus 9]

He was the lead singer with Bread, but now he's brown-bread...cancer..

[weatherman90 7]

It is already currently being discussed on the Near-Miss 2005 thread.

[Guest anne bartee]

What a terrible thing to write that Jimmy Griffin who just died of cancer is Brown Bread..H e contributed more that anyone and he had an academy award of best song in a motion picture,,etc..and you slop have done NOTHING except judge.. he was my friend and I shall miss him.. anne {the Voice} Bartee furgurl@lycos.com

[Tuber Mirum 126]

Isn't brown bread (ie: dead) a very apposite judgement for one who has ceased breathing, thinking, metabolising, etc.,?

 

Humility forbids us from mentioning our manifold achievements in life, but certain is that the minute one of us wins an Oscar, then you will be eating your words!

[Anubis the Jackal 77]

Isn't brown bread (ie: dead) a very apposite judgement for one who has ceased breathing, thinking, metabolising, etc.,?

 

Humility forbids us from mentioning our manifold achievements in life, but certain is that the minute one of us wins an Oscar, then you will be eating your words!

A friend of mine was nominated for an Oscar, does that count?

[Guest sophie]

Brown Bread?

 

It's sad that you obviously lack something within yourself that allows you such disregard for a man who was more than a musician, but also a husband and father; a man with a family.

 

Perhaps you haven't experienced that kind of love in your own life, perhaps you chose to not accept that kind of love in your life, or perhaps you simply choose to be "different," and think that remarks about dying such a horrible death, with your family suffering at your side, or even alone, is "cute," or "witty."

 

However, even to some of the most harden hearts and people who have witnessed a lot of death in their life-time, such as myself, it seems that the ones who have the most trite attitude and arrogance about that event, [the tough guys] are generally the ones alone in the hospital ward, begging for someone to hold their hands, terrified of facing the moment when they have to take that last breath alone.

 

They are usually extremely humble when it gets right down to the end of the wire.

 

I know, I've held a lot of hands of people who like you, revel in callous remarks about other people's sorrows, and like you, find humor in death. It is a pitiful reflection of low-self-esteem.

 

Also, you also lack education given your inability to even realize that "yeast," which is a living organism is required to bake " bread," and that "bread is not decayed," it might be "baked," but it serves as nutrition to the body. So, no matter how you "break your bread," you are way off base.

 

Whether or not you appreciate his talents, or even if you thought had no talent. He surely accomplished great things.

 

For his family and fans, I feel great sorrow.. but for you...

 

Well...

"I pitty the fool..."

 

Jimmy Griffin was a great man who contributed much to the world of music, whether you liked it or not.

 

What's your resume look like?

 

What's your contribution--butcher, baker, or candle-stick maker? A nursery rhyme seems appropriate when speaking to someone like you.

 

May the self-induced nightmare of your horrible mouth elude you and someday may you find a true sense of humanity.

[lospalmas7 12]

Brown Bread?

 

It's sad that you obviously lack something within yourself that allows you such disregard for a man who was more than a musician, but also a husband and father; a man with a family.

 

Also, you also lack education given your inability to even realize that "yeast," which is a living organism is required to bake " bread," and that "bread is not decayed," it might be "baked," but it serves as nutrition to the body. So, no matter how you "break your bread," you are way off base.

It's just rhyming slang. He's dead, are we not allowed to say that? As far as I can tell no one has criticised or insulted him. Why all the complaining?

[football_fan 42]

Jimmy Griffin was a great man who contributed much to the world of music, whether you liked it or not.

Nobody here is disputing the fact that he was a great musician

 

I know, I've held a lot of hands of people who like you, revel in callous remarks about other people's sorrows, and like you, find humor in death. It is a pitiful reflection of low-self-esteem.

 

You really need to relax and stop being so judgmental. I have not seen any evidence of callous remarks directed against Jimmy Griffin. Death is a natural and inevitable part of life, yet many members of society tend to treat it as a taboo subject. There is nothing wrong with discussing it or even maintaining a sense of humor. It is better than crawling under a rock and pretending that it does not exist.

 

What's your resume look like?

 

What's your contribution--butcher, baker, or candle-stick maker? A nursery rhyme seems appropriate when speaking to someone like you.

 

There you are being judgmental again. They are all honorable professions. Just because one is not a musician it does not make him or her a less valuable member of society.

[honez 79]

What's your resume look like?

 

What's your contribution--butcher, baker, or candle-stick maker? A nursery rhyme seems appropriate when speaking to someone like you.

 

There you are being judgmental again. They are all honorable professions. Just because one is not a musician it does not make him or her a less valuable member of society.

I'd put musicians at the bottom end of life's valuable members to be honest.

Sure they're good at what they do (writing fancy little ditties and the like) but that puts them at about the same level of usefulness as poets in my book.

Not the kind of people you'd want to be stranded on an island with and have to depend on. Give me a butcher any day of the week.

Jimmy Griffin was obviously very good at what he did, but that hardly makes him any more laudible than your average Joe.

In Cockney rhyming slang (something he'd have appreciated being a muso) he's brown bread--which for you blinkered USAns--means dead.

There's nothing sinister about the term. Get over it.

[Captain Oates 21]

I'd put musicians at the bottom end of life's valuable members to be honest. 

 

That is a generalisation that is rather hurtful some of us who are not yet dead!

 

As a musician, I would like to give Mr H the opportunity to re-consider.

 

Were it not for the fact that I have to hurry off to work (in a school, where my pupils would not be helped by the above remark) I would have plenty more to say.

 

Come on Mr H.........

[Josco 49]

I'd put musicians at the bottom end of life's valuable members to be honest. 

 

That is a generalisation that is rather hurtful some of us who are not yet dead!

 

As a musician, I would like to give Mr H the opportunity to re-consider.

Sorry Captain, I'm afraid that I tend to agree with Mr Honez, although not with out some reservations. There are many professions that are desperately underrated and a more enlightened society would correct this imbalance. I do think that musicians, and music, contribute to the sum of human happiness. (Does this include Eminem?) However, I do think that some of them get paid (not earn) an amount out of all proportion to their contribution. Some of the sums are obscene; does that McCartney* fellow really deserve such a colossal amount? This may appear to be a socialist rant that belies other members’ impressions of me, but it is not. Oh no, it is pure unadulterated envy. I sit here in a job that I do not enjoy, watching my life dribble away, wishing to be able to be in a position where financial woes are a thing of the past.

 

*At least Mrs Josco has two legs!

[Anubis the Jackal 77]

Jimmy Griffin was a great man who contributed much to the world of music, whether you liked it or not.

Nobody here is disputing the fact that he was a great musician

 

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I am...Bread were MOR soft-rock rubbish, polluting airwaves with their homogenised dreck.

[honez 79]

I'd put musicians at the bottom end of life's valuable members to be honest. 

 

That is a generalisation that is rather hurtful some of us who are not yet dead!

 

As a musician, I would like to give Mr H the opportunity to re-consider.

 

Were it not for the fact that I have to hurry off to work (in a school, where my pupils would not be helped by the above remark) I would have plenty more to say.

 

Come on Mr H.........

Okay, maybe I overstated a little. Salesmen, clowns, Popes and other religious figureheads are at the foot of the ladder in my book.

But I do stand by the comment that there's nothing special about musicians in general. The way some people idolise them, elevating them to almost demigod, status is apalling.

[Josco 49]

Okay, maybe I overstated a little. Salesmen, clowns, Popes and other religious figureheads are at the foot of the ladder in my book.

But I do stand by the comment that there's nothing special about musicians in general. The way some people idolise them, elevating them to almost demigod, status is apalling.

As is some of the spelling.

[Guest sophie]

I work with the dying. You are ever so correct that death is the inevitable for each of us that begin our decay our long before the breath permanently leaves our bodies. Some experience mental more rapidly.

 

If I come off as touchy about Jimmy Griffin, perhaps it is because I know his family and he was exactly that a "Person" first and foremost and being a musician was secondary to that status.

 

Yes, his musicianship, and musicial contribution was an important part of his life, but it is not what made him a person; it was merely a part of Jimmy the person.

 

As for people who live with those jobs day to day that they despise, I can see how that could happen, but I believe we all have a purpose. I am of the belief that any honest work is to be commended and that no one person is bigger or smaller than the other.

 

Your remark about demi-gods: I agree, it's obscene that people can't realize that these "icons" are no better than the next person.

 

I appreciate anyone, even the artists who can make a living working at their passion and I emphasize WORK at their passion and achieve greatness.

 

It doesn't matter to me if their passion is sweeping sidewalks, taking out the trash, physician, teacher, musician, the job description nor the size of the bank account, nor debt for that matter, make the man or woman; title is not relevant. What is relevant is that we are all "entitled" to our kudos for a job well done.

 

The group Bread was a 70's pop icon band that appealed mostly to the average teenage girl. Certainly their music was not for everyone. That's fine.

 

As for being "touchy" about the remark about Jimmy's dead state; I'm not so much touchy as I am sitting here with my cynical arse who deals with a variety of death experiences and can't help but wonder if you are really that comfortable with the thought of death?

 

I also might actually be a bit touchy about "brown bread" due to the fact that not too long ago I had to identify the decomposing corpse of my only sibling.

 

So, "kudos" to you for probing into my psyche, pointing out how "sensitive I am," and bringing about such cartharsis.

 

May you never be "brown bread." May you live well and long.

[open pinecone 0]

Some of his lyrics were a bit, well......treacly weren't they?

For example...'baby I'm a want you, baby I'm a KNEAD you....'

Was that a DOH! (dough) moment?

[Captain Oates 21]

I'd put musicians at the bottom end of life's valuable members to be honest. 

 

That is a generalisation that is rather hurtful some of us who are not yet dead!

 

As a musician, I would like to give Mr H the opportunity to re-consider.

Sorry Captain, I'm afraid that I tend to agree with Mr Honez, although not with out some reservations. There are many professions that are desperately underrated and a more enlightened society would correct this imbalance. I do think that musicians, and music, contribute to the sum of human happiness. (Does this include Eminem?) However, I do think that some of them get paid (not earn) an amount out of all proportion to their contribution. Some of the sums are obscene; does that McCartney* fellow really deserve such a colossal amount? This may appear to be a socialist rant that belies other members’ impressions of me, but it is not. Oh no, it is pure unadulterated envy. I sit here in a job that I do not enjoy, watching my life dribble away, wishing to be able to be in a position where financial woes are a thing of the past.

 

*At least Mrs Josco has two legs!

If it is riches that you envy, then look somewhere other than the music profession. I know of several excellent musicians who have even strayed into IT in order just to keep paying the mortgage.

 

Most musicians are honest (yes!), conscientious, extremely hardworking, and dedicated. The majority of working musicians have to work very long and anti-social hours and only rarely are publicly credited for their work.

 

But having to actually pay to have a musician perform, teach or accompany is too much for some folks. "Do you mean I have to pay for you to 'play'?" (The Small Claims Court comes in very handy here.)

 

Recorded music is so much cheaper to use, and so the big corporations and a few "celebrities" get rich while the rest of us struggle on.

 

There ought to be another word than 'musician' for those high profle entertainers whom you mention and others like them. (Most of the words that come to mind would not survive the filter!)

 

- Don't be too hard on Eminem: not music to me, but he's not the worst out there, by a long way.

 

 

.......So there you go. Now for my first taste of H******k's Gin.

 

 

Sir Josco has truly earned his knighthood for this recommendation.

 

With cucumber! A touch of Pure Genius.

[Tuber Mirum 126]

Most musicians are honest (yes!), conscientious, extremely hardworking, and dedicated.

Now, now, Captain. Pushing the boat out a bit aren't we?

 

[Captain Oates 21]

Now, now, Captain. Pushing the boat out a bit aren't we?

 

That would be Captain Haddock???

 

[Guest anne (the Voice} Bartee]

Jimmy Griffin was my friend and he shall be missed.. I was going to record with him before he died of cancer.. He walked across the street on Vine and Melrose to the Winchell donut hole and told me that he was going to start a group called Bread because he needed the bread,, yep Griffin aka The Pig... you are gone and what a waste... Marti your wife will miss you too and also Mikki Jamison aka Mikki McGoldrick your first wife.. will miss you too.. after all she knew and loved you too and of course gave you the nickname The Pig... so long friend ,,, I miss you,, and am so sorry we never recorded together as you promised.. anne bartee furgxxx@lycos.com

 

 

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Edited November 14, 2006 by heaven can wait

[maryportfuncity 10,684]

Bloody hell, we slipped up bigtime here, such a docile thread this poster thinks we're a tribute site!