What If They Died 3 Years Ago But We Only Just Found Out Now?

[Olveres 8]

Apologies if this question has been asked before but how do the rules relate to someone like Bin Laden who for all intents and purposes may have been killed say in 2005, but who makes it appear he is still alive in 2007. If it came to light he died in 2005 and was confirmed to be 100% true, is it put down that he died in 05 or 07, because for all intents and purposes as we begin 2007 we have to assume he is alive....

 

my head hurts, I hope that made sense???

 

[Windsor 2,233]

Basically, we'd be made to look stupid.

If, for example, bin Laden did die back in 2005 and was on the 2005 list it would simply be ammended.

We could not take him off the 2007 list (if he were on it) because of the rules. It would not be the first time an already dead person appeared on the list.

 

DDPs work simarly. For example, someone chose a WW1 veteran last year who died back in 2005. The candidate was still allowed to be submitted and the DDP organisers even mentioned on his mini bio that he was already dead. I'm not sure if they would ammend their old scoreboards if it emerged somebody had actually died in previous years.

 

That's my take on things but I'm probably not important enough to speculate...

[Olveres 8]

Basically, we'd be made to look stupid.

If, for example, bin Laden did die back in 2005 and was on the 2005 list it would simply be ammended.

We could not take him off the 2007 list (if he were on it) because of the rules. It would not be the first time an already dead person appeared on the list.

 

DDPs work simarly. For example, someone chose a WW1 veteran last year who died back in 2005. The candidate was still allowed to be submitted and the DDP organisers even mentioned on his mini bio that he was already dead. I'm not sure if they would ammend their old scoreboards if it emerged somebody had actually died in previous years.

 

That's my take on things but I'm probably not important enough to speculate...

 

So he wouldn't count for a score in a 2007 deadpool then if it came to light he died two years previously? Hmmm maybe I should stay away from "those who might have already gone".

[Windsor 2,233]

Basically, we'd be made to look stupid.

If, for example, bin Laden did die back in 2005 and was on the 2005 list it would simply be ammended.

We could not take him off the 2007 list (if he were on it) because of the rules. It would not be the first time an already dead person appeared on the list.

 

DDPs work simarly. For example, someone chose a WW1 veteran last year who died back in 2005. The candidate was still allowed to be submitted and the DDP organisers even mentioned on his mini bio that he was already dead. I'm not sure if they would ammend their old scoreboards if it emerged somebody had actually died in previous years.

 

That's my take on things but I'm probably not important enough to speculate...

 

So he wouldn't count for a score in a 2007 deadpool then if it came to light he died two years previously? Hmmm maybe I should stay away from "those who might have already gone".

 

I don't think he would count because you'd have folk like Rotten Ali (who take it too seriously) moaning.

I've taken the same risk with Ratko Mladik. He is in hiding and could well be hiding in a box underground.

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

The deadpool rules do vary. One worth looking out for is Alphonsin's starting in February. He's basing his scores entirely on obit wordage in the main papers so Bin-Laden, or any other famous person in hiding, would generate the obit words when their deaths were discovered. I haven't seen Alphonsin's final rules but I posted this very question on the thread. I'm intending to put OBL on my list for his deadpool.

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

How long before our friend Richard John Bingham is mentioned in this thread

 

And some of those who were already dead and listed remain classic errors - Wilfrid Brambell on the 1989 list when he had died of cancer in 1985.

 

Surely if someone is declared dead, as with the aforementioned Lucky, that is enough?

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

Ah yes, Lord Lucan. He'd be worth a sh*t load of wordage on Alphonsin's system. More to the point, I've toyed with him as a DP pick myself. I'm guessing he might still be alive and those in the know might reveal all, just after he dies. In other words, no news is good news to Deadpickers (not arf).

[Dr Hackenslash 25]

Ah yes, Lord Lucan. He'd be worth a sh*t load of wordage on Alphonsin's system. More to the point, I've toyed with him as a DP pick myself. I'm guessing he might still be alive and those in the know might reveal all, just after he dies. In other words, no news is good news to Deadpickers (not arf).

 

The problem with Alphonsin's system is that if the Queen dies, she'll get so many points that those that don't have her won't be able to win!

 

And I wouldn't fancy counting the wordage on that one!

[Banshees Scream 110]

What If They Died 3 Years Ago But We Only Just Found Out Now?, Bin laden

 

If he is on your list, then your screwed for Dead Pool.

[maryportfuncity 10,630]

Ah yes, Lord Lucan. He'd be worth a sh*t load of wordage on Alphonsin's system. More to the point, I've toyed with him as a DP pick myself. I'm guessing he might still be alive and those in the know might reveal all, just after he dies. In other words, no news is good news to Deadpickers (not arf).

 

The problem with Alphonsin's system is that if the Queen dies, she'll get so many points that those that don't have her won't be able to win!

 

And I wouldn't fancy counting the wordage on that one!

 

 

Aye point taken. but someone - ie Alphonsin - is willing to count and the one thing about the different pools is that they test different skills. 13 picks and limited to broadsheet obits is demanding a sensible approach IMHO. I'm tempted to play safe with Sharon, Hazelwood and the others. Then again you could really gamble and put Blair, Bush, her Madge and his Holiness in there, one of them is worth four Lee Hazelwoods and more. I'm gonna give his deadpool a punt, haven't got my team yet but I think I'll concentrate on ageing politicos and crumbling royals.

[Rotten Ali 600]

Two reasons Bin-Laden is on my deathlist shadow list this year. He was said to have a kidney problem in 2001. He was said to be getting meds' but if he was still live now (at aged 52) he would be in a quite serious condition. Second, I did hear that he was in Bangladesh in 2002 and I would think that it would be an even safer place to hide than Pakistan.

As an aside I think it is a bit inplausable that he is still alive (all that bombing in Tora-Bora). Its more a punt in hope that we can have his fresh dead body turn up and we all get closure on the issue. I'm not that bothered if it is confirmed that he died two years ago. Lets not mess with the old score boards unless the pool in question has a firm policy on this back-dating issue.

[notaguest 16]

Basically, we'd be made to look stupid.

If, for example, bin Laden did die back in 2005 and was on the 2005 list it would simply be ammended.

We could not take him off the 2007 list (if he were on it) because of the rules. It would not be the first time an already dead person appeared on the list.

 

DDPs work simarly. For example, someone chose a WW1 veteran last year who died back in 2005. The candidate was still allowed to be submitted and the DDP organisers even mentioned on his mini bio that he was already dead. I'm not sure if they would ammend their old scoreboards if it emerged somebody had actually died in previous years.

 

That's my take on things but I'm probably not important enough to speculate...

 

So he wouldn't count for a score in a 2007 deadpool then if it came to light he died two years previously? Hmmm maybe I should stay away from "those who might have already gone".

 

I don't think he would count because you'd have folk like Rotten Ali (who take it too seriously) moaning.

I've taken the same risk with Ratko Mladik. He is in hiding and could well be hiding in a box underground.

Maybe not anymore

[CaptainChorizo 1,976]

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Although no has picked her for the Derby Dead Pool someone that comes to mind for a possible future conundrum if she were to be picked is Ruth Channing. She is someone who had a few minor film role in the early -mid 1930's most notably in The Merry Widow with Maurice Chevalier and Jeanette MacDonald. If she is still alive she would be 105. I think it's just as likely if she had died maybe no one would know until years later or even longer based on her having no wikipedia page or any info online anywhere about her past the date of a 1949 divorce.