Harvester Of Souls 40 Posted March 21, 2010 Yeah, this looks like it could be a candidate for the 'Deaths of 2010 Thread'. A number of congressmen worry that they will not be re-elected if they vote 'aye' on the bill, even though the high cost of health care here is running the country into the ground. And the newest obstacle seems to be the fear of state-sponsored abortion, even though the president has explained that it will not be covered under the new health care bill. I can't understand it at all. It seems the people that will benefit most directly, from the reform, are the most vocally against it. Just as a strange tangent... Have a read of this... Scary! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Madame Defarge 21 Posted March 22, 2010 I can't understand it at all. It seems the people that will benefit most directly, from the reform, are the most vocally against it. Just as a strange tangent... Have a read of this... Scary! People have always been afraid of what they don't know. I thought I heard/read something a couple of years ago about middle eastern women demonstrating against women's rights. Eventhough a system is messed up (and the health care system in america is clearly REALLY messed up), people still rather have something they know than have there daily routine changed. It's a habit among the lower and middle classes to vote against their own best interests. They get a little bit of money and all of a sudden they're Neo-conservatives. Politicians realize this and count on it to get elected and/or re-elected. I see that the British often refer to their own class system and subject it to a steady stream of analysis and parody. Americans rarely do. We turn a blind eye to it, but it does exist and how! Vaagheid, the resistance to change is something I don't understand either. I figure clinging to the same old messed up ideas and hanging on to the status quo is somehow hardwired into our genetic code. Maybe it has to be, or else we'd go flying off in all directions without any laws, customs or traditions to hold society together. It's only when things reach the breaking point that we start listening to the voices of the few among us who have the imagination and courage to introduce a new idea. Edit: The legislation has now passed in the House of Representatives by a vote of 219 to 212. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted March 22, 2010 What I find mind boggling is this fear of experimenting with ideas. To me, ideas are ideas - they belong to no one. If we do not attempt to correct our mistakes, how can we ever change for the better? We can't. He who stands still will stay there. That's what's wrong with America, we live under the delusion that our ancestors have done all the thinking necessary and that we need to leave everything as is. Sometimes I can see eye to eye with the lawyer or the CEO who feels it is absurd to sacrifice his freedoms for some loser dad who plays mom and chills on the couch all day while his wife works overtime. If he gets a job then he can pay for his health care they complain. Somehow they forget to mention poor Madame Defarge, a girl who probably works very hard to make ends meet. Even borderline slums in NYC can be expensive, and health care? In her dreams. When all is said and done I find myself with the same questions and the same doubt. Perhaps ignorance and greed are forever .. But in the end it's not about health care. Hell, it's not even about politics. It's about who we are. And right now America isn't empathetic - America is Madoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarolAnn 926 Posted April 3, 2010 health care reform is a joke there is no such thing as reform of what does not already exist. since there is no health care nationally already there can be no reform of it. as always it's greedy politicicians playing with the lives of the people. Do you actually read what you write? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
