Donald J Trump

[The Old Crem 3,608]

32 minutes ago, Thatcher said:

Ambulances and secret service seen leaving Mar-a-Lago. 
 

Update: Report it involved 20-25 secret service cars, two ambulances and a helicopter. 
 

Update #2: Reportedly part of Vice President Elect Vance’s convoy, no emergency says the secret service. 

A bit of an odd incident this.

[arghton 6,772]

Elon overdosing on the ketamine or RFK Jr. having a steroid-induced heart attack? 

[arrowsmith 448]

7 hours ago, arghton said:

Elon overdosing on the ketamine or RFK Jr. having a steroid-induced heart attack? 

Why not both? Trump has a constipation induced stroke and you get a hat trick. 

[The Old Crem 3,608]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14124309/I-tried-Donald-Trump-diet-ill-mcdonalds-ultraprocessed-food.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/26/i-followed-donald-trumps-diet-for-a-week/

‘I ate like Donald Trump for a day... I've been bed-ridden ever since.’

 

 

[Life Is Beautiful 718]

On 09/11/2024 at 17:59, tracy said:

 

What are you talking about? The "who will win" poll on here had Trump in the lead, and it would have been far greater if Trump had faced Biden. And most of those votes weren't cast by Trump supporters, so even if you think this site is a bubble, it's not similar to r/politics at all. 

 

I stopped visiting the forum regularly for personal reasons a few days before the CNN debate so I missed commenting on the poll and everything else in between (assassination attempts 1 and 2, Biden dropping out, Kamala joining in, Presidential debate, VP debate...).

 

The bulk of my posts was in late 2023/early 2024 when this whole forum barring one or two members was convinced Biden was cruising to victory because Trump's "littleMaga base" could never win him an election again, despite him having already gained an additional ELEVEN MILLION votes between 2016 and 2020. Then they'd hit you with something like "Biden won by a landslide in 2020" and then you'd have to explain to them that:

1. 2020 was an anomaly that Trump would have won easily if it weren't for COVID.

2. No, Biden won by the thinnest of margins and that despite the pandemic, Trump was 42 000 votes away from reelection.

3. Again, 2020 was a unique year with unique rules where anyone who was even half interested in voting was able to do it very easily.

 

They would sometimes also use arguments like Dobbs or the midterms, ignoring that having a former president on the ballot completely changes perspectives. That is why " We Are Not Going Back" was such a stupid motto when so many people would have actually LOVED to go back to at least where the economy was under Trump 45. Nostalgia for anything pre-2020is real.

 

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Trump's coattails have always been pretty middling, though, so I guess it's not that much of a surprise.

 

Well, kind of agree on this but, and again you guys aren't going to like this, Donald Trump is a phenomenon. We just witnessed the greatest political comeback in modern history that no other politician in the next 100 years is probably going to accomplish. 

 

Yet there is a silver lining for liberals in here: masses are interested in him and him only. Believe it or not but since 2016, there are people, who otherwise would not be interested in voting, that show up just for Trump, and that is exactly why Trump-lite candidates like Kari Lake keep losing. I mean why have Temu Trump when you have experienced the real thing? Could you imagine an awkward sod like Vance or DeSantis having those kinds of rallies in 2028? Could you imagine ANY other Republican going on Theo Von or doing the McDonald's thing or garbage truck stunt and not look UTTERLY stupid?! Could you imagine Nikki Haley talking about the manhood of a tennis player or dancing awkwardly on stage for 40+ minutes and still look electable? Trump can because he has the charisma, humor and personality to either pull that off or get away with it. The MAGA movement probably dies in 2029 unless one of Trump's children decides to run, and even then it just won't be the same thing.

[Life Is Beautiful 718]

On 10/11/2024 at 09:26, sodoffbaldrick said:

Actually i consider Trump an existential threat only because he stated in his campaign rallies that his supporters won't have to vote again after this election. 

 

This is taken out of context, add this to the "bloodbath" and "fine people on both sides" folder.

 

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That;'s how a democracy works. 

Last time I checked democracyWAS still working, there was an election and the candidate with the most votes in the popular and electoral college won it.

 

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But I will strongly oppose anyone who chooses to be a dictator, ends elections or willfully chooses to break the law.

Please stop,this lazy rhetoric is why the Democrats lost. Trump was president before, he was not a dictator, and he did not end elections either. Dictators aren't welcomed by the incumbent President with open arms whilst being promised a smooth transition.

[tracy 2,430]

6 hours ago, Life Is Beautiful said:

The bulk of my posts was in late 2023/early 2024 when this whole forum barring one or two members was convinced Biden was cruising to victory

 

It was probably just a loud minority, or cope. Even if you're someone who absolutely hates Harris, it's hard to argue against the idea that she had a much better chance of beating Trump than a half-dead Biden. Yet most people on this site weren't convinced she was going to win by the end, so this doesn't suggest they would've said the same about Biden in early 2024 when he was doing worse by pretty much every metric. I'm sure if there'd been a poll of the average user on this site, they wouldn't have said Biden was the favorite.

 

5 hours ago, Life Is Beautiful said:

Yet there is a silver lining for liberals in here: masses are interested in him and him only. Believe it or not but since 2016, there are people, who otherwise would not be interested in voting, that show up just for Trump, and that is exactly why Trump-lite candidates like Kari Lake keep losing.

 

I think there's more evidence that the archetypical Trump-only voter is more of a Trump-D/L downballot voter. Lake lost because something like 100k Trump voters also voted for Gallego. If there was a massive contingency of people who went Trump-blank, she'd have won given she outperformed Harris. There are states like Texas where 150k Trump voters voted for the Democrat in the Senate race. 

 

Trump was generally perceived as the more moderate option this time around, and his campaign was heavily built around how great it is that a bunch of Democrats now support him (Musk, RFK, Tulsi, so on). As far as Republicans go, Trump comes across as pretty liberal (he is basically an atheist, he clearly has no strong feeling on gay rights and abortion, and he put a PRO Act supporter in his cabinet). This is basically the sentiment you have in your post already, but as I said after the election, Trump is absolutely the high point of the "Cool GOP", because he's a wacky guy and not your average stodgy social conservative. Can you imagine, I dunno, Glenn Youngkin being feted like a king at UFC matches and athletes doing a celebratory Glenn Youngkin dance? Not gonna happen.