Godot 149 Posted January 5, 2006 Have been doing some research tonight, including a trawl through previous threads and can't find anything on spies. Some more research is needed on people like George Blake, Michael Bettaney and Lord Cuckney who are all getting on. Cuckney would prefer people didn't know it but he was in British intelligence according to Peter Wright in Spycatcher. Wickipedia has bugger all on Bettaney and Blake but both must be good ages by now. Must be some good old American spies out there? Does anyone know anything about spies beyond The Man From UNCLE? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ringo 0 Posted January 6, 2006 I thought George Blake died ages ago but a brief trawl through the net suggests not. I must have got him confused with one of Cambridge spies. Fair play to him. He got bounced out of the nick before Ronnie Biggs so must be one of the UK's longest serving fugitives from justice. Then again, if he has snuffed it, who would know. He maybe in a maggot factory somewhere in Moscow for all we know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted January 6, 2006 Come to think of it, he looks a bit pasty. I wonder what happened to Ilya? http://www.robertvaughn.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ringo 0 Posted January 6, 2006 Michael Bettaney's entry on Wikipedia is a bit brief. From memory, yes I am that old, he was relatively young when he was prosecuted. Late thirties/early forties at most. So he may not even be collecting his pension yet. There are bigger fishes to fry I think than him on the death list. If you are interested in British Espionage, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Andrew This guys work is a good starting point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted January 6, 2006 Yes I have his Secret Service book in my little collection. Mentions of Cuckney, however, who is a genuinely big fish, are rare. Wright described him as a "tough, no nonsense" training officer in MI5. he also had big role in the Westland affair. Bettaney was not a big fish, but he will be remembered. No idea of his age though. Blake is in his 80s now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Ronnie 78 Posted January 6, 2006 Profumo made this year's list, and he's spy-related. We should consider James Bond for 2007, because the next film will surely suck, and hopefully then they'll kill off the series. Hasn't been a decent Bond flick since The Spy Who Loved Me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted January 6, 2006 Profumo was a war minister in danger of being compromised but never a spy or, to use the old fashioned word, a traitor. He has done many good things in his life since the ruination of his political career. James Bond is a fictional character. How can that be killed off? But what happened to Illya Kuryakin (David McCullum)? Haven't seen him since he was locked up in Colditz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted January 25, 2006 Haven't seen any comments on the rock? Was it one of our's, or was it really a plant? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Hackenslash 25 Posted January 25, 2006 Haven't seen any comments on the rock? Was it one of our's, or was it really a plant? The view among my "contacts" is that the rock story was a British plant to cover-up another, more shocking espionage programme that we are working on in Russia. As for spies - David Shayler for a living one. Christopher Marlowe was thought to be a spy, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted January 25, 2006 As for spies - David Shayler for a living one. Spies! David Shayler More like a fat whingeing bastard who blew the whistle when he was passed over for promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geronimo 3 Posted October 2, 2006 George Blake was not so bad a bloke for a spy. I can understand why he did it and why other prisoners helped him escape. I'm beginning to worry about the US myself after hearing an item about Bob Woodward on the Today programme this morning suggesting that the US was beginning to treat the UK as a Halibut threat. Will they come and bomb us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted October 2, 2006 George Blake was not so bad a bloke for a spy. I can understand why he did it and why other prisoners helped him escape. I'm beginning to worry about the US myself after hearing an item about Bob Woodward on the Today programme this morning suggesting that the US was beginning to treat the UK as a Halibut threat. Will they come and bomb us? Well if they start on Slough, me and Betjeman are all for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted October 2, 2006 Tempus Fugit, I demand you to reveal who this Benjamin character is? Lately I feel as if this person or object is a threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted October 2, 2006 Tempus Fugit, I demand you to reveal who this Benjamin character is? Lately I feel as if this person or object is a threat. He is the patron saint of suburbia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geronimo 3 Posted October 2, 2006 George Blake was not so bad a bloke for a spy. I can understand why he did it and why other prisoners helped him escape. I'm beginning to worry about the US myself after hearing an item about Bob Woodward on the Today programme this morning suggesting that the US was beginning to treat the UK as a Halibut threat. Will they come and bomb us? Well if they start on Slough, me and Betjeman are all for it. "And talk of sports and makes of cars In various bogus Tudor bars And daren't look up and see the stars But belch instead" A bit like the Deathlist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,197 Posted October 2, 2006 Tempus Fugit, I demand you to reveal who this Benjamin character is? Lately I feel as if this person or object is a threat. Sir John Betjeman Not that BS will take a blind bit of notice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted October 2, 2006 He is the patron saint of suburbia. I don't trust Benjamin. I think he is somewhat of a bald dwarf with a red robe. Black shiny shoes, and though he acts very kind, it just might explain why you are questioning the behavier of your objects. I wouldn't be so sure that he is who he says that he is. His reflection must appear ageless, a soft spoken entity that looks around 70 but is 135 years old. Put a cross around your neck friend, lead him outside and lock all your windows and doors. Take my word wisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geronimo 3 Posted October 2, 2006 I wonder if Miss Joan Hunter Dunn is still alive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis the Jackal 77 Posted October 2, 2006 I wonder if Banshees is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted October 2, 2006 I wonder if Banshees is? I wonder what people are like in upper Egypt? What is your life story Anubis The Jackal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis the Jackal 77 Posted October 2, 2006 Oh, Banshees. Do you really want to know? John Betjeman Death In Leamington She died in the upstairs bedroom By the light of the ev'ning star That shone through the plate glass window From over Leamington Spa Beside her the lonely crochet Lay patiently and unstirred, But the fingers that would have work'd it Were dead as the spoken word. And Nurse came in with the tea-things Breast high 'mid the stands and chairs- But Nurse was alone with her own little soul, And the things were alone with theirs. She bolted the big round window, She let the blinds unroll, She set a match to the mantle, She covered the fire with coal. And "Tea!" she said in a tiny voice "Wake up! It's nearly five" Oh! Chintzy, chintzy cheeriness, Half dead and half alive. Do you know that the stucco is peeling? Do you know that the heart will stop? From those yellow Italianate arches Do you hear the plaster drop? Nurse looked at the silent bedstead, At the gray, decaying face, As the calm of a Leamington ev'ning Drifted into the place. She moved the table of bottles Away from the bed to the wall; And tiptoeing gently over the stairs Turned down the gas in the hall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TLC 9 Posted October 2, 2006 Tempus Fugit, I demand you to reveal who this Benjamin character is? Lately I feel as if this person or object is a threat. Sir John Betjeman Not that BS will take a blind bit of notice... I don't trust Benjamin. I think he is somewhat of a bald dwarf with a red robe. Black shiny shoes, and though he acts very kind, it just might explain why you are questioning the behavier of your objects. I wouldn't be so sure that he is who he says that he is. His reflection must appear ageless, a soft spoken entity that looks around 70 but is 135 years old. Put a cross around your neck friend, lead him outside and lock all your windows and doors. Take my word wisely. What made you say that OoO? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted October 2, 2006 Slough in context, to hell with Ricky Gervais. Tempus Fugit, I demand you to reveal who this Benjamin character is? Lately I feel as if this person or object is a threat. Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough! It isn't fit for humans now, There isn't grass to graze a cow. Swarm over, Death! Come, bombs and blow to smithereens Those air -conditioned, bright canteens, Tinned fruit, tinned meat, tinned milk, tinned beans, Tinned minds, tinned breath. Mess up the mess they call a town— A house for ninety-seven down And once a week a half a crown For twenty years. And get that man with double chin Who'll always cheat and always win, Who washes his repulsive skin In women's tears: And smash his desk of polished oak And smash his hands so used to stroke And stop his boring dirty joke And make him yell. But spare the bald young clerks who add The profits of the stinking cad; It's not their fault that they are mad, They've tasted Hell. It's not their fault they do not know The birdsong from the radio, It's not their fault they often go To Maidenhead And talk of sport and makes of cars In various bogus-Tudor bars And daren't look up and see the stars But belch instead. In labour-saving homes, with care Their wives frizz out peroxide hair And dry it in synthetic air And paint their nails. Come, friendly bombs and fall on Slough To get it ready for the plough. The cabbages are coming now; The earth exhales Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted October 3, 2006 Maybe this should be renamed poetry corner. My favourite Betjeman starts like this: In the licorice fields of Pontefract My love and I did meet And many a burdoned licorice bush Was blooming round our feet; Red hair she had and golden skin, Her sulky lips were shaped for sin, Her sturdy legs were flannel-slack'd, The strongest legs in Pontefract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted October 3, 2006 Maybe this should be renamed poetry corner. My favourite Betjamin starts like this: In the licorice fields of Pontefract My love and I did meet And many a burdoned licorice bush Was blooming round our feet; Red hair she had and golden skin, Her sulky lips were shaped for sin, her sturdy legs were flannel-slack'd, The strongest legs in Pontefract. Oh god I'm an alcoholic. Half a bottle of scotch gone in a few hours, lordy, lordy. It all started so well, bugger, bugger, bugger. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites