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[TQR 14,518]

Yes @En Passant, you should join. I've been looking to the player choice rounds for a while now as it has the potential to create much more interesting rounds.

 

And to reiterate for everyone thinking of submitting, https://www.everyhit.com is an absolute godsend.

[En Passant 3,772]

2 hours ago, TQR said:

Yes @En Passant, you should join. I've been looking to the player choice rounds for a while now as it has the potential to create much more interesting rounds.

 

And to reiterate for everyone thinking of submitting, https://www.everyhit.com is an absolute godsend.

3 hours ago, AstroKat said:

@En Passant, I don't know if you have seen that in the new year I will be running a new KoS game, in this game the players get to choose which songs we vote on. As you have, temporarily at least, decided to join in, I was wondering if you would like to submit an entry? I must admit that I'm curious about which songs you would pick, the details are about a dozen posts back.

 

No worries if you're not interested, you still have the option to come and play if you would like to.

 

The trouble is my interest waxes and wanes, whether with the moon or something else I couldn't say.

Then I end up thinking I'm being unfair on others by only voting some of the time.

But sure, I'll certainly have a look-see if I have 'til next year

[AstroKat 630]

2 hours ago, En Passant said:

 

The trouble is my interest waxes and wanes, whether with the moon or something else I couldn't say.

Then I end up thinking I'm being unfair on others by only voting some of the time.

But sure, I'll certainly have a look-see if I have 'til next year

 

It would be great to see an entry from you, but you don't have quite that long I'm afraid. Entires close at 23:59 29th Dec, so you have 5 days & 6 hours, still loads of time.

[AstroKat 630]

FINAL CALL!

 

If there is anyone that plans to send over an entry for 6-10s of the 70s, but hasn't yet done so, you have 48 hours remaining.

[AstroKat 630]

Entries for the 6-10s of the 70s are now closed.

 

The game will open on the 1st January, what time will depend on how much alcohol is consumed on the previous evening. It will a Top 10s (6-10) of the 70s game with 2 rounds and a number of finalists I haven't quite settled on yet.

 

Entries for the next game, Top 10s (6-10) of the 80s will open once the 70s game is launched.

[Toast 16,312]

44 minutes ago, AstroKat said:

Entries for the next game, Top 10s (6-10) of the 80s will open once the 70s game is launched.

 

Oh!  I thought we would be sticking with the 70s, so moving on to the 21-30s of the 70s next.

No matter, I will start looking at the 80s 6-10s then.

[AstroKat 630]

A question for the group.

 

I have noticed that some of the songs that made it into the top 10 on their initial release in the 70s have later gone on to enter the top 5 on re-release. Since they either have already been voted on by the group, or will be in the not to distant future, should I disqualify them from these player nominated games?

 

It's too late to do something about it for the 70s game, but I could amend the rules for future games.

[Toast 16,312]

On 17/12/2024 at 13:00, AstroKat said:

1. We are looking for a songs peak position in the charts for their first chart run, re-releases and re-entries will be allowed if it didn't enter the top 40 the first time around.

 

Doesn't the above rule that out?

[TQR 14,518]

24 minutes ago, AstroKat said:

A question for the group.

 

I have noticed that some of the songs that made it into the top 10 on their initial release in the 70s have later gone on to enter the top 5 on re-release. Since they either have already been voted on by the group, or will be in the not to distant future, should I disqualify them from these player nominated games?

 

It's too late to do something about it for the 70s game, but I could amend the rules for future games.

 

Yeah, as Toast just said, re-releases aren't counted unless they didn't make the top-40 so this shouldn't be a cause for concern. If they reappear in Wannamaker's games, ah well, never mind, we can just vote them out in his games*.

 

*Unless it's a dull pile of piss like The Waterboys, in which case, hot favourite obvs.

[AstroKat 630]

2 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Doesn't the above rule that out?

 

It would rule it out of my game, if say it reached the top 10 in the 70s but was originally released in the 60s and made it into the top 40. I'm thinking more about re-entrys in to the chart games that have been/are being run by Book, TQR & Wannamaker. As an example, Waterboys - Whole of the Moon reached 26 on it's initial release in 1985, but was re-released in 1991 and reached number 3, so is currently being voted on in No 3s of the 90s game, much to TQR's annoyance.

[wannamaker 1,490]

In my games I decided that I would allow songs that got re-released and achieved a higher peak; songs that peaked at the same number in different decades & songs that went on to achieve higher peaks in later decades but got into the top 5 on their original chart run (e.g. The Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" will be in the 60s No. 3s even though it reached number 1 when it was re-released in the 80s, I would've done the same with Kate Bush's "Running Up That Hill" if the 2020s were over).

[BuffaloPhil 976]

Yeah I think keep them in - if they're good enough to win 2 games then fair fucking play.

[AstroKat 630]

Ok, thank you.

 

We'll stick with peak position in initial chart run for the players choice games, if they turn up again in the Top 5 on re-release, we'll let the votes fall as they may.

[AstroKat 630]

Hello All

 

Now that the 70s game is lauched it's time to open nominations for the 6-10s of the 80s game.

 

As before,  each player who submits an entry will eventully complete a table like this. Each player gets to nominate one track in each box but the same artist cannot be represented in the same row or column. It doesn't matter if the same track gets nominated by more than one player it just reduces the numbers in the round.

 

Year	Top 10 (ex 1-5)	11-20	21-30	31-40
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989

 

For our next game I am asking for submissions for Top 10s (ex 1-5) of the 1980s . Rules as follows:

 

1. We are looking for a songs peak position in the charts for their first chart run, re-releases and re-entries will be allowed if it didn't enter the top 40 the first time around. 

2. The date of the peak position, rather than the release date will be used to determine the year.

3. You don't have to submit an entry to play, but it is strongly encouraged as it will give more variety.

4. Entries are to be submitted by DM to myself. Entries will close, at some point*, before the end of the current 70s game.

 

* Once we get to the final I will post a reminder on this thread for submissions, once we get down to the final 10 I will put up a 48 hour (ish) final reminder. The 70s game is comparable in size to the No 1s of the 50s, which took about a month from start to finish, so there's plenty of time to put together an entry.

 

Any questions, please post them below.

 

[Toast 16,312]

This has led to some heartbreaking decisions as there is so much that I love.

[TQR 14,518]

I have just sorted my 80s No.6-10s submission and I am pleased as punch with it. Ten solid fuckin' bangers.

[ladyfiona 2,736]

Anyone plotting their 31-40 and wondering how the hell did these songs not make top 20? Then I re-look at my 2000 list and i'm like...my teenage years were so cringe.

[Toast 16,312]

27 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

Anyone plotting their 31-40 and wondering how the hell did these songs not make top 20? Then I re-look at my 2000 list and i'm like...my teenage years were so cringe.

 

It's feast or famine, isn't it.

[TQR 14,518]

Another thing is thinking of a song to include, then finding it reached No.20 (lower than I thought) in the 90s (later than I thought) so I've a wait on my hands before I can play it.

[AstroKat 630]

It occurs to me that I should have put the following in my post above.

 

If you didn't send over an entry for the 70s game, but feel like sending one in for the 80s game, then please do, the more the merrier.

 

Conversely, if you put in an entry for the 70s game, but don't fancy doing one for the 80s game, then that's OK too.

[ladyfiona 2,736]

In my 90's game I have to think "do I like it and will TQR think it's not EDM enough".

[AstroKat 630]

3 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

In my 90's game I have to think "do I like it and will TQR think it's not EDM enough".

 

I would have thought we should be choosing songs based on whether you think it's good & you that enjoy it. Everyone else gets to have their say when we get to the voting.

 

My problem has been that I find something I like, then someone else nominates it.

 

 

[TQR 14,518]

In my 90s game I have to think "should I put forward this absolute banger or is it far too spicy for the likes of ladyfiona?"

[TQR 14,518]

I will say, the groups after the Top-10 are looking rather sparse for the 70s (haven't looked this far with other decades yet). Is it just me who feels like filling the table might be a bit of a task?

 

Might be easier and move varied if we did Top 10 as we've been doing so far, then the remaining Top 40 (No.11-40) as one group rather than three. What does everyone else think?

[En Passant 3,772]

4 minutes ago, TQR said:

I will say, the groups after the Top-10 are looking rather sparse for the 70s (haven't looked this far with other decades yet). Is it just me who feels like filling the table might be a bit of a task?

 

Might be easier and move varied if we did Top 10 as we've been doing so far, then the remaining Top 40 (No.11-40) as one group rather than three. What does everyone else think?

 

I said up thread somewhere I struggled mightily with 1970 for 6-10 to find anything I gave a stuff about and ended up entering a dire novelty song for a laugh (it rightly got binned off early doors).  Then again, there may have been loads I liked that didn't make the top 10, I didn't look (at least not yet).

The other 6-10's from '71 on were somewhat easier, with a couple of them yielding several candidates.

 

As I said I haven't spent the time to look if everything that never made top 10 is going to be harder, as you suggest, it may well be.

I'd imagine a major problem with stuff that is now 50 odd years old is there will be a few that everyone knows because they still get played (all the bloody time) and an absolute shit-ton of stuff nobody under 50 will have a clue about. I may indeed find it hard to suggest something for each group - however I'm willing to try or as you suggest combine them into one, not really bothered either way.

 

However if we do, do we then carry that forward for later decades? I mean I think it'll be much easier to pick from the lower order in the 80's and 90's before possibly tailing off again after 2000, but maybe that's just my age and era's. Shrug.