Death By Numbers 2025

[gcreptile 11,037]

Hello Everyone,

 

here we are again. Time for a new round, are you up for it? Do you think we can ever surpass the score record of 1838 by DevonDeathTrip in the Death By Numbers of 2016? Well, I guess it's time you try! 

 

The general rules:

Send me 50 main team names by pm or just post them in this thread, if you want, from now on until Dec 31st 2024, 23:59 GMT.

You can choose one joker who gives you double points.

 

Submission form:

Just give them in the normal "First name", "Last name" format

Please don't number them, don't add any data, like birthdays. And only note their claim to fame if there might be confusion, for example:

Simon Cowell (plastic surgery victim)

Simon Cowell (wildlife conservator)

 

The scoring is [year of birth] - 1900 = score. So someone born in 2001 will get 101 points in case of death

You may submit the following people: living, not knowing their precise date of death (by execution, dignitas, or whatever), at least 18 years old on January 1st, 2025, and being somewhat notable.

 

"Somewhat notable" means: they should at least be notable for something else aside from being terminally ill. "Something else" being something that has an effect on society. Terminally ill activists are okay if they've done at least something generally beneficial, a nationwide campaign, a more than just self-published book, or a notable court case. If they're only in the news because of their tragedy or because they need our sympathy I will not accept them. So no "cancer mums with cancer kids", no "terminally ill fans", no "ordinary person in a coma because of a car crash". This also counts for brothers/sisters/children of notable people - unless they are so notable that every relative is also notable by default, like the House of Windsor, or maybe the Bush family. Unfortunately, it is me who will decide if the person is famous enough. Previous BBC coverage will usually convince me. Also, please, no football player in a non-professional league, who is totally obiting only because of tragedy, and not because the club just so happens to also have a wikipedia page - or any other name that kind of exploits the rules, like Dave Marsh.

Any name that gets rejected in the DDP would also be rejected here! Sometimes maybe after the game even starts.

However: "Oldest Person of XYZ" will always be allowed - even a completely irrelevant person (in the grand scheme of things) will be accepted if they are the oldest person of their country, or last survivor of World War II, Korean War, etc... Usually those people do not give many points, but maybe 5 pts is better than zero? Often, they are also of a certain "historic relevance", you know President Tyler's grandson, and such. Anyway, I will allow them.

 

You can submit up to 10 substitutes. It was a little stressful for me in previous games to ask for substitutions in case of disqualifications. So if you think that some of your names stretch the fame definition, just put in some more subs. I will make use of them automatically. Once you have submitted your team, it's the final submission.

 

Substitution phase: Up until the beginning of the 1st of July 2025 GMT you may switch 5 old people still alive for 5 new ones for whom all the above rules also apply.  You can make use of the 5 substitutions whenever you like, until July starts. But once you decide to switch out picks, they cannot score anymore. And the new names cant score before 1st of July, so ideally you'd want to keep that window as small as possible, but we know that life sometimes gets in the way.

 

When is a hit a hit: If the person permanently dies in 2025 (GMT!) and their death gets noticed in written form by qualifying media outlets within 2025 or the first seven days of 2026.

 

The QO rules are: Everything accepted by the Derby Dead Pool 2025 plus The New York Times. Yes, let's hope that fringe Yahoo names feature a little less prominently - though admittedly, there weren't a lot!

 

Your host:

I will also submit a team and will do so below before Christmas and hide the names with "XXXXX XXXXX" and reveal them on January 1st.

I will also make use of the substitution window, but only use 2 names. After all, there's always a pretty broad consensus of a couple of names (example 2025: Sven-Göran Eriksson, Johnnie Walker), so I wouldn't steal anyone's names by picking those who are universally known anyway. Also, I will substitute comfortably before the end of the deadline, so you can see my two names.

I will not read your submission emails until January 1st (I think you can check that) to prevent the impression that I might take a name from your posts for other deadpools. So if I'm unsure about a name of yours, I will talk to you in the first week of January.

If you post your team right in this thread, you save me some work but also give away names. If you pm me, please make sure that I know what the mail is about in the header "Death By Numbers", "Team submission" or something like that.

If you have other questions, you can also ask in this thread!

 

Players:

[gcreptile 11,037]

Placeholder - my own submission:

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Masterlist I

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Masterlist II

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Masterlist III

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Masterlist IV

[MariNisia 4,234]

28 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

Send me 50 main team names by pm or just post them in this thread, if you want, from now on until Dec 31st 2023, 23:59 GMT.

 

Great host and great pool. I'm working on my team right now. If you could just give me a little more time, I'd really appreciate it, @gcreptile. 

[gcreptile 11,037]

1 minute ago, MariNisia said:

 

Great host and great pool. I'm working on my team right now. If you could just give me a little more time, I'd really appreciate it, @gcreptile. 

Missed that one, again!

[ladyfiona 2,645]

My team will go here. Thanks for running it again.

[Neol Edmunds 84]

My team will go here if you'll take a newbie. Thanks for running it.

[gcreptile 11,037]

2 hours ago, Neol Edmunds said:

My team will go here if you'll take a newbie. Thanks for running it.

Of course, I do! The game is open for everyone.

[Steve 630]

@gcreptile thank you for running this pool and if I were to play I would be a newbie to this game. I am going sound really thick though and hope you will forgive me but could you please just clarify the scoring if a pick of mine died.

[livingbygrace 397]

Planning on trying it for the first time

My team will go here

[livingbygrace 397]

40 minutes ago, Steve said:

@gcreptile thank you for running this pool and if I were to play I would be a newbie to this game. I am going sound really thick though and hope you will forgive me but could you please just clarify the scoring if a pick of mine died.

Hi Steve the scoring goes by their age.. For instance if you had someone that was born in 1985 you would -1900 and get 85 points.  If they were born in 1924 it is 24 points.

[Steve 630]

1 minute ago, livingbygrace said:

Hi Steve the scoring goes by their age.. For instance if you had someone that was born in 1985 you would -1900 and get 85 points.  If they were born in 1924 it is 24 points.

Thank you so much for this @livingbygrace. I thought this was the case but just needed the clarity even though I have probably made myself look proper dumb. 

[livingbygrace 397]

34 minutes ago, Steve said:

Thank you so much for this @livingbygrace. I thought this was the case but just needed the clarity even though I have probably made myself look proper dumb. 

No not at all.  I am one to ask for clarification as well sometimes entering a new pool

[gcreptile 11,037]

Thank you both for the interest, and for the answer, @livingbygrace

 

By the way, I think next week is the time when I delete my 2024 PMs to make room for more.

[Toast 16,209]

I'll play again.  Thanks.

[livingbygrace 397]

@gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks

[gcreptile 11,037]

52 minutes ago, livingbygrace said:

@gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks

Yes, people with a Wikipedia page are automatically qualified as notable enough for me. 

[Toast 16,209]

1 hour ago, livingbygrace said:

@gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks

 

FYI he is not an English footballer. He is Northern Irish (which makes him British), and his sport is Gaelic Football which is different from the football played in Great Britain.

[Neol Edmunds 84]

7 hours ago, Toast said:

 

FYI he is not an English footballer. He is Northern Irish (which makes him British), and his sport is Gaelic Football which is different from the football played in Great Britain.

 

He'll probably get an obituary as there was a lot of coverage about his liver cancer diagnosis - on UK sites, that wouldn't provide much coverage about GAA normally.

[Toast 16,209]

2 hours ago, Neol Edmunds said:

He'll probably get an obituary as there was a lot of coverage about his liver cancer diagnosis - on UK sites, that wouldn't provide much coverage about GAA normally.

 

Yes, that's why he's been picked for a lot of Twisted teams. But the question involved a rule in another pool re English footballers.  I was explaining that it didn't apply in this case.

[Bobytomi 128]

@gcreptile Can I include a supercentenarian in my team? I was planning to add Ilie Ciocan.

[Summer in Transylvania 2,205]

1 minute ago, Bobytomi said:

@gcreptile Can I include a supercentenarian in my team? I was planning to add Ilie Ciocan.

 

On 06/12/2024 at 16:22, gcreptile said:

However: "Oldest Person of XYZ" will always be allowed - even a completely irrelevant person (in the grand scheme of things) will be accepted if they are the oldest person of their country, or last survivor of World War II, Korean War, etc... Usually those people do not give many points, but maybe 5 pts is better than zero? Often, they are also of a certain "historic relevance", you know President Tyler's grandson, and such. Anyway, I will allow them.

Here.