gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 6 Hello Everyone, here we are again. Time for a new round, are you up for it? Do you think we can ever surpass the score record of 1838 by DevonDeathTrip in the Death By Numbers of 2016? Well, I guess it's time you try! The general rules: Send me 50 main team names by pm or just post them in this thread, if you want, from now on until Dec 31st 2024, 23:59 GMT. You can choose one joker who gives you double points. Submission form: Just give them in the normal "First name", "Last name" format Please don't number them, don't add any data, like birthdays. And only note their claim to fame if there might be confusion, for example: Simon Cowell (plastic surgery victim) Simon Cowell (wildlife conservator) The scoring is [year of birth] - 1900 = score. So someone born in 2001 will get 101 points in case of death You may submit the following people: living, not knowing their precise date of death (by execution, dignitas, or whatever), at least 18 years old on January 1st, 2025, and being somewhat notable. "Somewhat notable" means: they should at least be notable for something else aside from being terminally ill. "Something else" being something that has an effect on society. Terminally ill activists are okay if they've done at least something generally beneficial, a nationwide campaign, a more than just self-published book, or a notable court case. If they're only in the news because of their tragedy or because they need our sympathy I will not accept them. So no "cancer mums with cancer kids", no "terminally ill fans", no "ordinary person in a coma because of a car crash". This also counts for brothers/sisters/children of notable people - unless they are so notable that every relative is also notable by default, like the House of Windsor, or maybe the Bush family. Unfortunately, it is me who will decide if the person is famous enough. Previous BBC coverage will usually convince me. Also, please, no football player in a non-professional league, who is totally obiting only because of tragedy, and not because the club just so happens to also have a wikipedia page - or any other name that kind of exploits the rules, like Dave Marsh. Any name that gets rejected in the DDP would also be rejected here! Sometimes maybe after the game even starts. However: "Oldest Person of XYZ" will always be allowed - even a completely irrelevant person (in the grand scheme of things) will be accepted if they are the oldest person of their country, or last survivor of World War II, Korean War, etc... Usually those people do not give many points, but maybe 5 pts is better than zero? Often, they are also of a certain "historic relevance", you know President Tyler's grandson, and such. Anyway, I will allow them. You can submit up to 10 substitutes. It was a little stressful for me in previous games to ask for substitutions in case of disqualifications. So if you think that some of your names stretch the fame definition, just put in some more subs. I will make use of them automatically. Once you have submitted your team, it's the final submission. Substitution phase: Up until the beginning of the 1st of July 2025 GMT you may switch 5 old people still alive for 5 new ones for whom all the above rules also apply. You can make use of the 5 substitutions whenever you like, until July starts. But once you decide to switch out picks, they cannot score anymore. And the new names cant score before 1st of July, so ideally you'd want to keep that window as small as possible, but we know that life sometimes gets in the way. When is a hit a hit: If the person permanently dies in 2025 (GMT!) and their death gets noticed in written form by qualifying media outlets within 2025 or the first seven days of 2026. The QO rules are: Everything accepted by the Derby Dead Pool 2025 plus The New York Times. Yes, let's hope that fringe Yahoo names feature a little less prominently - though admittedly, there weren't a lot! Your host: I will also submit a team and will do so below before Christmas and hide the names with "XXXXX XXXXX" and reveal them on January 1st. I will also make use of the substitution window, but only use 2 names. After all, there's always a pretty broad consensus of a couple of names (example 2025: Sven-Göran Eriksson, Johnnie Walker), so I wouldn't steal anyone's names by picking those who are universally known anyway. Also, I will substitute comfortably before the end of the deadline, so you can see my two names. I will not read your submission emails until January 1st (I think you can check that) to prevent the impression that I might take a name from your posts for other deadpools. So if I'm unsure about a name of yours, I will talk to you in the first week of January. If you post your team right in this thread, you save me some work but also give away names. If you pm me, please make sure that I know what the mail is about in the header "Death By Numbers", "Team submission" or something like that. If you have other questions, you can also ask in this thread! Players: 5 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 6 Placeholder - my own submission: Death By Numbers 2025 1 XX XXXXXXX 26 XXXXX XXXX 2 XXX XXXXXXX 27 XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX 3 XXXX XXXXXX 28 XXXXX XXXX 4 XXX XXXXX 29 XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX 5 XXXXXX XXXXXXX 30 XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXX 6 XXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX 31 XXXXX XXXXXX 7 XXXX XXXXXXX (joker) 32 XXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX 8 XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXX 33 XXXXXXX XXXXX 9 XXXXX XXXXX 34 XXX XXXXX-XXX 10 XXXXX XXXX XXXXX XX XXXXX 35 XXXXXX XXXXXXX 11 XXXXX XXXXX (XXXX) 36 XXXXXX-XXXX XXXXX 12 XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX 37 XXXXX XXXXX 13 XXXX XXXXXXX 38 XXXXXXX X XXXXXX 14 XXXXXX XXXX 39 XXXXX XXXXXXXX 15 XXXXX XXXXXX 40 XXXX XXXXXXXX 16 XXXX XXXXXXX 41 XXXX XXXXXX 17 XXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXX 42 XXXXX XXXXX 18 XXXXX "XXXXX" XXXXXXX 43 XXXX XXXXXXXX 19 XXXXXXX XXXXXX 44 XXXX XXXXX 20 XXXX XXXXXX 45 XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX 21 XXXXXXXX XXXXXXX 46 XXX XXXXXX 22 XXXX XXXXXXXXX 47 XXXX "XXXXX XXXX" XXXXXX 23 XXXXX XXXXXXX 48 XXXXXX XXXXXXX 24 XXXXX XXXXXXX 49 XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX 25 XXX XXXXXXX 50 XXX XXXXXXXX Sub: XXXXX XXXXXX (used) XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXX XXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXXX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MariNisia 4,246 Posted December 6 28 minutes ago, gcreptile said: Send me 50 main team names by pm or just post them in this thread, if you want, from now on until Dec 31st 2023, 23:59 GMT. Great host and great pool. I'm working on my team right now. If you could just give me a little more time, I'd really appreciate it, @gcreptile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 6 1 minute ago, MariNisia said: Great host and great pool. I'm working on my team right now. If you could just give me a little more time, I'd really appreciate it, @gcreptile. Missed that one, again! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyfiona 2,671 Posted December 6 My team: (0/50) Archie Goodburn (athlete) Bashar al-Assad (politician) Billy Connolly (comedian) Bruce Willis Buzz Aldrin Clint Eastwood Danny Estrin – Eurovision musician David Attenborough David Lynch Des Palmer (footballer) Dick Van Dyke Edward, Duke of Kent Esther Rantzen - Joker Eugenia Cooney (influencer) Eva Marie Saint Frankie Vallie Gene Hackman Harvey Weinstein Iain Liam Ward (The King Of Chemo) (Youtuber) Ian Smith (Neighbours) Isabel Peron James Butts (entrepreneur) James Carter Cathcart James Whale Jean-Marie Le Pen Jimmy Carter Joe Doering (WWE athlete) Johnnie Walker (DJ) Julie Goodyear June Squibb Katharine, Duchess of Kent Lee Meriwether Linda Nolan Linda Tirado Marita Camacho Quirós Mary Schmucker Michael Caine Mustafa Monwar Nigel McCrery – Screenwriter Noam Chomsky Norman Tebbit - MP Patricia Greene – Archers actress Peter Yarrow Prunella Scales Theo Burrell - Antiques Roadshow expert Rupert Murdoch Sophie Kinsella Steve Gleason – NFL player Wendy Williams Yoko Ono Subs Pope Francis Elton John Joan Collins Claudia Sheinbaum (politician) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neol Edmunds 89 Posted December 8 My team will go here if you'll take a newbie. Thanks for running it. King Harald V Noam Chomsky Warren Buffett Prunella Scales Anne Diamond Jimmy Carter Jeremy Paxman Petula Clark Esther Rantzen Davina McCall Jimmy "Barbecue" Chérizier George Lazenby Elon Musk Geoffrey Boycott Huw Edwards Alan Greenspan Trisha Goddard Brian Wilson Milos Zeman Frankie Valli Brian Murphy Ian Smith (Harold Bishop) Elton John Josef Fritzl Celine Dion Nanette Newman Matthew Corbett (joker) Michael Caine Roger Waters William Shatner Dolph Lundgren Michael Bolton Jim Carrey John Virgo Douglas Hurd Judi Dench Jackie Stewart Bernie Ecclestone Alex Ferguson Richard Hadlee Neil Harvey Norman Tebbit Mickey Stewart Arthur Scargill Patricia Routledge Des Lynam Dino Zoff John Craven Paul Elliott (Chuckle Brother) Valerie Singleton Subs: Christopher Biggins Stephanie Beacham Giles Chichester John Gummer Norman Lamont Norman Gifford Pete Doherty David Starkey Jack Nicklaus Bob Charles 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 8 2 hours ago, Neol Edmunds said: My team will go here if you'll take a newbie. Thanks for running it. Of course, I do! The game is open for everyone. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted December 8 @gcreptile thank you for running this pool and if I were to play I would be a newbie to this game. I am going sound really thick though and hope you will forgive me but could you please just clarify the scoring if a pick of mine died. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted December 8 Planning on trying it for the first time My team will go here 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted December 8 40 minutes ago, Steve said: @gcreptile thank you for running this pool and if I were to play I would be a newbie to this game. I am going sound really thick though and hope you will forgive me but could you please just clarify the scoring if a pick of mine died. Hi Steve the scoring goes by their age.. For instance if you had someone that was born in 1985 you would -1900 and get 85 points. If they were born in 1924 it is 24 points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted December 8 1 minute ago, livingbygrace said: Hi Steve the scoring goes by their age.. For instance if you had someone that was born in 1985 you would -1900 and get 85 points. If they were born in 1924 it is 24 points. Thank you so much for this @livingbygrace. I thought this was the case but just needed the clarity even though I have probably made myself look proper dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted December 8 34 minutes ago, Steve said: Thank you so much for this @livingbygrace. I thought this was the case but just needed the clarity even though I have probably made myself look proper dumb. No not at all. I am one to ask for clarification as well sometimes entering a new pool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 8 Thank you both for the interest, and for the answer, @livingbygrace By the way, I think next week is the time when I delete my 2024 PMs to make room for more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,250 Posted December 8 I'll play again. Thanks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted December 8 @gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,114 Posted December 8 52 minutes ago, livingbygrace said: @gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks Yes, people with a Wikipedia page are automatically qualified as notable enough for me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,250 Posted December 8 1 hour ago, livingbygrace said: @gcreptile I do not know English Football to well, and you have your rule of picks needing to be part of the Professional league.. Would Jody Gormley be excepted? Thought I would just ask now while putting the team together. Thanks FYI he is not an English footballer. He is Northern Irish (which makes him British), and his sport is Gaelic Football which is different from the football played in Great Britain. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neol Edmunds 89 Posted December 8 7 hours ago, Toast said: FYI he is not an English footballer. He is Northern Irish (which makes him British), and his sport is Gaelic Football which is different from the football played in Great Britain. He'll probably get an obituary as there was a lot of coverage about his liver cancer diagnosis - on UK sites, that wouldn't provide much coverage about GAA normally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,250 Posted December 9 2 hours ago, Neol Edmunds said: He'll probably get an obituary as there was a lot of coverage about his liver cancer diagnosis - on UK sites, that wouldn't provide much coverage about GAA normally. Yes, that's why he's been picked for a lot of Twisted teams. But the question involved a rule in another pool re English footballers. I was explaining that it didn't apply in this case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobytomi 138 Posted December 9 @gcreptile Can I include a supercentenarian in my team? I was planning to add Ilie Ciocan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,224 Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Bobytomi said: @gcreptile Can I include a supercentenarian in my team? I was planning to add Ilie Ciocan. On 06/12/2024 at 16:22, gcreptile said: However: "Oldest Person of XYZ" will always be allowed - even a completely irrelevant person (in the grand scheme of things) will be accepted if they are the oldest person of their country, or last survivor of World War II, Korean War, etc... Usually those people do not give many points, but maybe 5 pts is better than zero? Often, they are also of a certain "historic relevance", you know President Tyler's grandson, and such. Anyway, I will allow them. Here. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
