Thoughts on the 2025 Deathlist

[Ulitzer95 13,212]

16 minutes ago, Death Impends said:

No BBC for Yarrow is weird because Mary Travers DID get a Beeb obit when she died, and Peter, Paul, and Mary were one of those bands where no one member was substantially more famous than the others. Though the BBC itself did decline compared to 15 years ago.

Let’s be honest, at this stage the BBC are so riddled with accusations about nonces they’d rather dodge covering anyone dodgy if they can do without it. As soon as they touch the stuff they get accused of not being hard enough with their language, or of pure hypocrisy.
 

Still nothing on the BBC about Ivor Caplin’s arrest for allegedly trying to groom and meet an underage for sex, despite The Independent, Mail, Sun, LBC and Spectator all covering it.  

[The Old Crem 3,801]

3 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said:

Let’s be honest, at this stage the BBC are so riddled with accusations about nonces they’d rather dodge covering anyone dodgy if they can do without it. As soon as they touch the stuff they get accused of not being hard enough with their language, or of pure hypocrisy.
 

Still nothing on the BBC about Ivor Caplin’s arrest for allegedly trying to groom and meet an underage for sex, despite The Independent, Mail, Sun, LBC and Spectator all covering it.  

I doubt it was that. They just can’t be bothered covering a lot of older cultural and entertainment figures anymore. 
 

And interesting the often antisemitic BBC news did not post a negative story about a pro Isreali Jew. That’s unusual for them. 

[polar duck 994]

15 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

And interesting the often antisemitic BBC news did not post a negative story about a pro Isreali Jew. That’s unusual for them. 

 

As a pro Israeli Jew, I say you're overthinking it.

[Lafaucheuse 4,314]

31 minutes ago, polar duck said:

IMO the only names that can be considered "major misses" are:

• Peter Yarrow
• Tom Brokaw
• Jean Marsh
• Don King
• Joan Plowright
• Roberta Flack

 

and Flack is the only one whose exclusion is "unjustifiable".

Quite agree with you. I’ll add Jose Mujica, Vanessa Redgrave and Raul Castro. 

[The Old Crem 3,801]

7 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said:

Quite agree with you. I’ll add Jose Mujica, Vanessa Redgrave and Raul Castro. 

I forgot Mujica myself but he does seem a very certain death, Redgrave and Castro could die but they could linger on as they don’t have very likely to die soon type of illnesses. 

[Death Is Not The End 3]

6 hours ago, Death Impends said:

No BBC for Yarrow is weird because Mary Travers DID get a Beeb obit when she died, and Peter, Paul, and Mary were one of those bands where no one member was substantially more famous than the others. Though the BBC itself did decline compared to 15 years ago.

Alex Trebek and Bob Barker did get fairly lengthy BBC obits when they died despite the fact that neither ever appeared on British television. The name Peter Yarrow isn't much better known in the UK but they could've approached the obit from the "Puff The Magic Dragon co writer dies" angle.

[The Old Crem 3,801]

4 minutes ago, Death Is Not The End said:

Alex Trebek and Bob Barker did get fairly lengthy BBC obits when they died despite the fact that neither ever appeared on British television. The name Peter Yarrow isn't much better known in the UK but they could've approached the obit from the "Puff The Magic Dragon co writer dies" angle.

I’m not sure they would now the BBC seems to have had even more budget cuts and a change of focus. 

[tracy 2,616]

13 minutes ago, Death Is Not The End said:

Alex Trebek and Bob Barker did get fairly lengthy BBC obits when they died despite the fact that neither ever appeared on British television.

 

In the digital age, I doubt they care where clicks come from. Bill Hayes got a BBC obituary, even though his show has always been a massive flop in the UK. They also gave one to Nancy MacKenzie, whose sole claim to fame is being a dub voice actress in Latin America.

 

(Come to think of it, they seem pretty generous with obituaries when it comes to voice actors. They gave Peter Renaday an obituary, and he's not really what I'd call an A-list VA. Doc Harris got one, and he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. Kevin Conroy and Rachael Lillis did too, although the bar is pretty low when you're an actor from something like Batman and Pokémon.)

[The Old Crem 3,801]

2 minutes ago, tracy said:

 

In the digital age, I doubt they care where clicks come from. Bill Hayes got a BBC obituary, even though his show has always been a massive flop in the UK. They also gave one to Nancy MacKenzie, whose sole claim to fame is being a dub voice actress in Latin America.

 

(Come to think of it, they seem pretty generous with obituaries when it comes to voice actors. They gave Peter Renaday an obituary, and he's not really what I'd call an A-list VA. Doc Harris got one, and he doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. Kevin Conroy and Rachael Lillis did too, although the bar is pretty low when you're an actor from something like Batman and Pokémon.)

The BBC do because of their funding model’s - the license fee in the UK vs commercials for the rest of the world. If anything it seems the World news staff are still writing more death coverage than the UK based staff. 

[tracy 2,616]

26 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

The BBC do because of their funding model’s - the license fee in the UK vs commercials for the rest of the world.

 

The BBC website has multiple ads on each article if you're not in the UK, though, so even if no Brits read their Brooks Robinson obituary, there's still plenty of incentive to publish it.

 

Don't forget that the BBCWorld twitter account was a default follow suggestion for a long time (maybe it still is), so I'd bet a large amount of those 42M followers it has are not from the UK. No way it would pass up tweeting an obituary for someone like Bob Barker.