Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 When you aren't searching for Maddie McCann or trying to determine Jack the Ripper's true identity, you guys might find this interesting. It has been intriguing me since I started following it a few days ago. An entire family in France has vanished and there are some interesting circumstances surrounding the case. It is a bit like the Marie Celeste but involving a house, not a boat... http://www.dw.com/en/mystery-of-vanished-family-baffles-france/a-37774755 Do you think the son dunnit, copying what happened to his mate's family a few years earlier? Why take the toothbrushes, etc, if they were planning to go somewhere but leave the wet washing out? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 I just read another article that the dad has had depression, too. Hence it could be dad doing a murder-suicide, crazy son or the missing father of the other family, I suppose. Maybe crazy son did it to cover up that he was the one using his sister's credit card to play the online games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,751 Posted March 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Davey Jones' Locker said: I just read another article that the dad has had depression, too. Hence it could be dad doing a murder-suicide, crazy son or the missing father of the other family, I suppose. Maybe crazy son did it to cover up that he was the one using his sister's credit card to play the online games. Oh no might get caught for really minor crime what can I do? Oh yeah, mass murder will solve this problem. I think if dad all 4 of them would have been found dead in house together. My money's on Charlotte. Only one whose blood wasn't found at property. Her clothes found 300km away from property - she could even have left those prior to the crime to confuse police? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 Hmmm... What would her motive be? How is she surviving without accessing money? The discovery of the pants is interesting - implies something sexual unless someone (her, her brother or whoever) planted them there to mislead the police as you say. Weird the sniffer dogs apparently haven't found anything else in that area, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 No new details but the mystery is making the mainstream media in England now: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-family-disappears-troadec-blood-mobile-phone-nantes-orvault-police-search-latest-a7606206.html http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39122315 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 UPDATE: Sebastien's car has been found... 300 km away from where Charlotte's pants were discovered... http://en.rfi.fr/france/20170302-missing-family-mystery-son-s-car-found Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,170 Posted March 2, 2017 It says trousers, not pants. I don't know about Australian English but in British English, pants are underwear. So what was found is an outer garment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, Toast said: It says trousers, not pants. I don't know about Australian English but in British English, pants are underwear. So what was found is an outer garment. Yes, the words are interchangeable for the ouetr garment here. I think one is UK English and one is US English and we steal 'em both. Update: Here we go with a discussion of the word: https://www.kaplaninternational.com/blog/pants-word-of-the-week http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/10246/does-pants-more-commonly-mean-trousers-or-underpants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 Yes, I just looked at a French site to double-check and it was definitely her trousers (outer garment) not her knickers that were discovered because it says that her social security card was found in a pocket of the apparel in question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,904 Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Toast said: It says trousers, not pants. I don't know about Australian English but in British English, pants are underwear. So what was found is an outer garment. Not in the part of Britain I'm from. Pants are casual trousers, trousers are specifically smart trousers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim Up North 3,751 Posted March 2, 2017 Things I would want to know. Can Charlotte drive? Is there any blood in the car? If so, whose? Did Charlotte or any of the other family members regularly go where Charlotte's things were found when visiting the parents in Brest? Also I presume French roads have traffic cameras like UK roads so I would have a team on those. Difficult to be a detective without the information though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 57 minutes ago, Handrejka said: Not in the part of Britain I'm from. Pants are casual trousers, trousers are specifically smart trousers. Sometime I think it is a gender thing for Aussies too (though not strictly so): men wear trousers, women wear pants. (Like how the Americans say Hillary Clinton wore "pants suits"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 2, 2017 According to a French news site, the investigators "remain open to all hypotheses". (I translate that to mean "We're stumped".) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lard Bazaar 3,800 Posted March 2, 2017 I have no idea, I'm just loving the copious use of the word 'pants' in this thread. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 3, 2017 "Police have indicated that Sebastien was the main suspect in the crime. According to a statement, authorities believe the young man had carried a "a macabre plan aimed at snuffing out the members of his family and maybe himself."" http://www.dw.com/en/new-clues-discovered-in-case-of-vanished-french-family/a-37792745 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave to the Grave 11 Posted March 5, 2017 On 3/2/2017 at 22:00, Handrejka said: Not in the part of Britain I'm from. Pants are casual trousers, trousers are specifically smart trousers. I am wearing my Sunday slacks; with no under pants. Roomy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,170 Posted March 5, 2017 Yay, welcome back Dave! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,122 Posted March 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave to the Grave said: I am wearing my Sunday slacks; with no under pants. Roomy. Welcome back to the fold. Is slave returning too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave to the Grave 11 Posted March 6, 2017 14 hours ago, Toast said: Yay, welcome back Dave! Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave to the Grave 11 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, Paul Bearer said: Welcome back to the fold. Is slave returning too? Thanks. Like a moth to a flame: all that talk of trouser. SttG's more of a shoe person, but sends much love. Edited March 6, 2017 by Paul Bearer To add the 'a'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave to the Grave 11 Posted March 6, 2017 I don't know, you disappear for four years and everything changes. All I wanted to do was add an 'a' before shoe and everything has gone pants. Perhaps someone could remove the duplicate without the 'a'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 6, 2017 Police can't find the Troadecs but we've found our Dave! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 6, 2017 Hey, the police have just had a confession. It wasn't the mentally ill son or the daughter - it was Dad's brother in law who battered them to death "in a row about the inheritance of gold bars." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39177217 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,662 Posted March 7, 2017 There's an entire television mini-series on a plate here. Whaddya reckon - including songs or not? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,324 Posted March 8, 2017 Hey @ImissMontpellier is back online! Any thoughts on the Troadec case, madame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
