Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted March 27, 2021 Didn't play in the football league, but one of the oldest surviving Scottish league players, Alex Kiddie, has died. Apparently Aberdeen and Celtic's oldest living player. https://www.afc.co.uk/2021/03/27/in-memoriam-alex-kiddie/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted March 28, 2021 Len Fletcher, Ipswich's oldest player, has died aged 91 - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town/len-fletcher-tribute-itfc-7844936 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsm 32 Posted March 30, 2021 My tribute to Derek Hawksworth; https://www.htsa-web.com/post/in-memory-of-wing-wizard-derek-hawksworth 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 14, 2021 @michaelf@michaelf - see below the sterling work from our own @Ulitzer95 re. David Lindsay. David Lindsay Hugman's / Wiki says born 29 Jun 1922 in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland Several family trees on Ancestry, including this one here say born 29 Jun 1919 in Cambuslang, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Other info given... Parents: John Lindsay and Martha McLachlan Married: Barbara Hunter Forrester on 1 Feb 1947 in Innerleithen, Peebleshire, Scotland Notes that he worked as a professional footballer in 1947! Later worked as a sales engineer Died: 10 Apr 1987 (aged 67) in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Address at time of death was 99 Burns Park, East Kilbride. Cause of death: myocardial infarction, renal failure, complications of surgery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 15, 2021 Hi I already had those details Do you mean Hugman book or website ? I sent the details to Barry Hugman over 5 years ago .if its been missed I will resend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 15, 2021 Crossposting from Deathlist Detective work and removed Sharpe and Lindsay from list on the first page. Keeping Taylor and Gray on for now but strongly suspect they are gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: Crossposting from Deathlist Detective work and removed Sharpe and Lindsay from list on the first page. Keeping Taylor and Gray on for now but strongly suspect they are gone. I’m away tonight OoO but I’ll take a look at some more names over the weekend. I’ve looked at your subsequent posts and for what it’s worth, I agree Lindsay and Sharpe are now closed cases. Gray I think we’re 75% of the way there – pretty sure someone wouldn’t have claimed he was a footballer on their family tree without first hand knowledge. As for Taylor, I’m not convinced. Could be a total coincidence. How can we go about confirming that one? Do you think there’s any football sources out there where you’d be able to unearth some confirmation on that first name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: I’m away tonight OoO but I’ll take a look at some more names over the weekend. I’ve looked at your subsequent posts and for what it’s worth, I agree Lindsay and Sharpe are now closed cases. Gray I think we’re 75% of the way there – pretty sure someone wouldn’t have claimed he was a footballer on their family tree without first hand knowledge. As for Taylor, I’m not convinced. Could be a total coincidence. How can we go about confirming that one? Do you think there’s any football sources out there where you’d be able to unearth some confirmation on that first name? I'm trying to contact the Bradford City historian to see what they know. There's 6 ex Bradford b. 1930. Away? In a pandemic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Octopus of Odstock said: I'm trying to contact the Bradford City historian to see what they know. There's 6 ex Bradford b. 1930. Away? In a pandemic? Staying at my partner’s place. Probably not allowed but meh. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 16, 2021 There is an error on barryhugmansfootballers.com I have informed Barry between the 2 David Lindsays both have died Another query is James docherty born 22nd of April 1929 at clydebank ex Doncaster.I cannot find the birth certificate so date may be wrong Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 16, 2021 Yes Gray is dead.i need to go to Edinburgh to get the dates.taylor not known.i contacted the Bradford City historian and said David Gray and Sid Ward were alive 10 years ago and as I can't find any deaths I believe they are still around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 16, 2021 3 hours ago, michaelf said: Yes Gray is dead.i need to go to Edinburgh to get the dates.taylor not known.i contacted the Bradford City historian and said David Gray and Sid Ward were alive 10 years ago and as I can't find any deaths I believe they are still around Michael, did you not see the post about Gray? Possibly died in Halifax in 1983. But you've said he's dead and hes alive in the same post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 16, 2021 Hi I didn't the post on Gray.but I meant Andy Jack was dead in Scotland but I need to visit Edinburgh to get the relevant dates.I will check David Gray death in Halifax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 16, 2021 Hi I just found David Gray's death in Bradford in 1985 his birthday is correct but year 1921 is wrong.his second name downie is missed so that,s why it was missed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 20, 2021 Updated again due to @Ulitzer95 brilliant work. When this started, I think my list was around 200 - it's now around 115. But if all 115 are alive, that's great as we can celebrate their longevitity. In summary(for Michael F or anyone else) the dead are: David Lindsay 29.6.1919, Cambuslang d. 10 Apr 1987, East Kilbride David Gray d. 1983, Halifax, Yorkshire Geoff Hill d. 2017 Fred Sharpe d. 9th April 2020, Hull, Yorkshire James Taylor b. 7.4.1925, Warrington d. 15 Aug 2000, Port Elizabeth, South Africa Eric Searle d. 2015, Surrey Fred Smith b. 27 May 1926, Draycott d. 6 Dec 2017, Woollongong, New South Wales, Australia Alf Horne @Ulitzer95 - definitely the same man as I've found something to say he moved to Watford. So died April 1967, Watford, Hertfordshire 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 Great where did Geoff Hill die .I found died 2007 in a car crash on a wiki site ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 21, 2021 He moved to Canada so probably there. I think 2007 could be right, mightve been a typo by me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 Ok I will put Canada 2007 He married but had no children in the UK so I thought he must have emigrated Fred Sharpe also emigrated to Australia but returned home.again no children in the Uk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 Alfred horne was born in Watford in 1921 so birth year wrong died aged 45 in Watford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 Hi I will have to reinstate horne as being alive he was definately born at Brixworth in 1926 And was living in Northampton in 2013 at 192.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,585 Posted April 21, 2021 @michaelf @Octopus of Odstock Name: Geoffrey Raymond Hill Death Date: 16 Feb 2006 Death Place: Mitcham Occupation: Insurance Fire Mngr Grant Date: 12 Jun 2007 Isn't this Geoff Hill? Record from the Victoria, Australia Wills and Probates here. Also appears in the England and Wales probates so must be a Brit originally... Also, presumably that's Mitcham, Melbourne, Victoria. Sure it was Canada? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 This could be him butl the site i saw it said died in 2007 in car crashes.but it must be abroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelf 24 Posted April 21, 2021 I would say this is the footballer as he died overseas.wikipaeda says died 2007 but change this to 2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,218 Posted April 21, 2021 While this thread holds no interest to me, I have to say that I am mightily impressed with the research going on here. Fair play. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted April 24, 2021 @michaelf, this is what Ulitzer found on 1927-1929: George Davies This family tree suggests he died in Cape Town, South Africa. Doesn't state when annoyingly. You can request death certificates from the SA Gov site so maybe Michael could work with this? ------------------------ John Brooks Nice and easy: Name: Mr John Brooks Gender: Male Age: 91 Birth Date: 8 Mar 1927 Last Residence: Stoke-On-Trent, Staffordshire, England Postal Code District: ST7 Death Date: 9 Jul 2018 Christopher Leonard b. Christopher Leonard 11 Jul 1927 Jarrow, EN (Hugman's) Family tree: Christopher Leonard b. 1927 Jarrow d. 1987 father: William Leonard mother: Elizabeth Cartwright Now he was the only Christopher Leonard born in that entire region in 1927 so must be him. Problem is where? Definitely did not die in the UK... and I extended the search on FreeBMD to 1985–1989 in case the authors of the tree recalled the year wrongly... which happens (like in David D Gray's case). Anyway, I believe this is him, but best of luck finding more. It's a game of "where in the world". ------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ Robert Williams Can't find his fate but Hugman's should correct his birth name. Definitely Robert Raymond Williams, not Raymond Robert Williams. Will help with finding him further down the line. ------------------------------------ Thomas McGairy Dead. Alternate spelling brings up an exact match on birthdate: Name: Thomas McGarry Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 25 Nov 1927 Registration Date: Dec 2002 Registration District: Leeds Inferred County: Yorkshire Register Number: A32C District and Subdistrict: 0921A Entry Number: 56 ------------------------ Ken Maxwell Died in Victoria, Australia in January 2007 as per this family tree: Birth 11 Feb 1928 • Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland 2 Sources Marriage 18 Jun 1949 • Barrhead, Renfrewshire, Scotland Barrhead Reformist Church / Theresa Emily Reaney Wild Death 11 Jan 2007 • Bundoora, Victoria, Australia Bundoora Extended Care, buried in Yan Yean Cemetary 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
