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Thanks, Book, for the effort in organizing all of this. This might be the best DACH list so far. Let's analyze it: Peter Weck: Not a lot of news; he’s still recovering from his stroke and is apparently wheelchair-bound but still lives in his flat and is mentally clear. He'll turn 95 this year, though, and with his health history, he could go at any time, so I'll give him a 45% chance of dying. Arthur Cohn: 98 years old this year—an age where you really can't make many predictions for the future. He hasn't received a lot of media coverage since his 90th birthday, so let's give him a 40% chance of dying. Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn: Just old, but at 105, there are certainly worse candidates. Her remaining life expectancy would be 1.5 years, and her chances of dying this year lie statistically around 50%, so that's the number I'll give her. She's in extraordinarily good condition for her age, though, and I could easily see her becoming a supercentenarian at one point. Julia Dingwort-Nusseck: Will be 104 in October; she was the first female president of the State Bank of Lower Saxony. She sounded extremely frail in an interview at 103 but looks 15 years younger. I’m giving her a 55% chance of dying this year because she's not very public, unlike Marianne zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn, so we can only speculate about her health status. Lieselotte Pulver: Nothing new; she still lives in a nursing home in Switzerland and feels alone. She's about to turn 96 this year, so I’ll give her a 45% chance of dying this year. Georg Koch: Diagnosed with Stage IV pancreatic cancer in 2023 and was given 6 months to live back then. He said he didn't want to do chemotherapy but preferred a "new medication from the United States." Currently, he's undergoing chemotherapy and says that he has good days and bad days when he can't even get out of bed. A sign that his miracle drug isn't working anymore? It doesn’t have to be the case; he has exceeded all expectations so far, so I would say that a 70% chance of dying this year sounds about right, considering advances in cancer treatments. Käthe Menzel-Jordan: The doyenne of our list; she seems to be in good condition for her age and became an honorary citizen of her hometown of Erfurt last year. At 108, the odds of living much longer surely must play against her, though. I think this might be her last year, but I’d love to be proven wrong—she's an amazing lady. So I’ll give her a 70% chance of dying this year. Josef Fritzl: His dementia diagnosis seems to have been confirmed now, but something has been seriously wrong in his head for the past 90 years, and this has never been a hurdle for him so far—30% chance of dying this year. Marie-Luise Grohs: Goalkeeper of the women's soccer team of FC Bayern Munich. She had a tumor last year; both operations have been successful, and she'll be back to training in January. She doesn’t look like she needs chemotherapy or even radiation—5% chance of dying, maybe even less than that. Horst Janson: A famous German actor who had a role in "Sesame Street" and also had a short career as a singer in the 70s. He suffered a hemorrhagic stroke back in August, was put on life support, and then, after being released from the hospital, he fell down the stairs, broke his hand, and suffered brain bleeding again. In the clinic, he infected himself with hospital germs but recovered from that. Now he's in rehab and on his way to recovery. The doctors seem quite optimistic; he surely had a lot of luck this year. Either he'll kick the bucket, or he’ll earn a place on Drol's Immortal list. I would give him a 75% chance of dying for now, but I wouldn't be surprised if he stays on the list for a couple of years. Considering that he's going to turn 90 this year, he has had a lot of luck to survive all of this; he seems to be very resilient. Mario Adorf: He couldn't attend an award ceremony in September due to an undisclosed illness and said that this was probably going to be the last award he'll receive during his lifetime. As he's about to turn 95, these are not good signs; I think he could go this year—55% chance of dying. Ralph Siegel: He fought against cancer again this year but defeated it for the fourth time, which his doctors called a miracle—20% chance of dying this year. Rolf Schimpf: His health history is well-known; he retired in 2007, has lived in a nursing home since 2010, lost his wife, and had to move to a different nursing home when he ran out of money. He was almost blind for a while after a failed operation and continues to defy all odds. He recently turned 100 years old in November, and in 2023, his doctor said that he hopes he can live another "two or three years." I'll give him a 75% chance of dying this year. Rita Süssmuth: She was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer in 2021, which is incurable. Her disease is treatable, though, and she undergoes chemotherapy, which must be pretty exhausting for a woman who's about to turn 88. She says that she doesn't want this disease to slow her down and still works—55% chance of dying. Marcel Ophüls: He hasn't been in the public eye much since his 90th birthday and looked great back then, much like Arthur Cohn, who’s the same age as him. So I'll also say there’s a 40% chance of dying this year for him, the same as Arthur. Rosi Gollmann: She’s about to turn 98 and had a fall a while ago—55% chance of dying. Justus Frantz: A German conductor who has recently become known for his admiration of Vladimir Putin. He announced a farewell tour for 2025 after doctors diagnosed him with a brain tumor, but there would need to be more examinations to make a definitive diagnosis. Later, he said that he doesn't have a brain tumor but an aneurysm on his heart instead. The life-saving operation is scheduled for this year. If he doesn't drop dead this year, we should drop him next year—35% chance of dying, and that's guessed high. He seems to be more like our Daniel Barenboim than our Michael Tilson Thomas. Georg Stefan Troller: As healthy as a 103-year-old can be, but that's relative. As a man, he’s also biologically at a disadvantage compared to his peers, like Julia Dingwort-Nusseck and zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn, and perhaps more akin to Käthe Menzel-Jordan; I also give him a 70% chance of dying this year. Jürgen Habermas: At 95 years of age, he doesn't give interviews anymore, but seems to be quite active otherwise. He has become a bit quieter in recent years—45% chance of dying this year. Jochen Stern: In great condition, but at 96 years of age, you can never know; I wouldn't want to "miss" him—40% chance of dying this year. Margot Friedländer: She still walks unaided at 104, participates in talk shows, attends public events, and gives talks at schools. Due to her age, I give her a 55% chance of dying, but I think she’ll be with us for many more years to come. Erni Mangold: From her appearance alone, you would think she'd become a centenarian one day, but she had a severe fall around four years ago and then disappeared from public life. Now she’s about to turn 98, and I’m not so sure about her reaching 100 anymore. There hasn’t been any news about her since her 95th birthday, and no news is sometimes bad news—60% chance of dying this year. W. Michael Blumenthal: Former Director of the Jewish Museum in Berlin; he is 98 years old and is working on his first crime novel right now. I don't think he's going to die this year—40%. Friedrich Nowottny: He’s doing well for a 95-year-old. He gave an interview last year about his worries regarding the war in Ukraine, where he talked a bit about his time in the Volkssturm at the end of WWII. He didn't look too bad—40% chance of dying this year. Janosch: Only in his early 90s, but he seems like one of those names who could die completely out of the blue—35% chance of dying this year. Heinz Hoenig: He's probably mainly known for his role in the legendary WWII classic "Das Boot" (1981). He has struggled with heart issues and other health problems over the last year, was placed in an artificial coma for a while, and had to be reanimated twice. He also had a hole in his esophagus due to a bacterial infection, which needed to be removed. Due to his weak health, doctors currently cannot perform a life-saving operation on his aorta, which is scheduled to happen this year if everything goes as planned. He’s definitely optimistic about it and recently gave an interview where he said he’s not "ill," while simultaneously looking like he’s in his 90s. Objectively, it seems he’s not going to make it long, but it looked even worse last year. He’s also "only" 73 compared to some other folks with similar problems, and maybe his newborn son will give him new strength. Let's say a 60% chance of dying; if he were a decade older, that number would be a lot higher. Anita Kupsch: She struggled with cancer and a fall in the past but had a role in a theater play last year and looked okay for 84—30% chance of dying this year. Jeannine Schiller: A former model from Austria who will turn 81 this year. She suffers from dementia and has had three strokes in recent years. She is bed-bound, needs 24/7 care, weighs only 90 pounds, and needs to be fed by a tube. The disease progressed quite fast since 2021 when she withdrew from the public. Her situation is similar to Cindy Birdsong. I would give her a 75% chance of dying. Egon Krenz: The last Communist leader of the GDR, will turn 88 this year—a number he probably hates as a devoted anti-fascist. He was treated in a hospital when he was 84 due to the pain of an injury he apparently acquired from "doing excessive sports." If mental gymnastics about GDR atrocities counts as sports, I understand how that could make him exhausted. I'm not too sure about him; these old GDR politicians seem to last long. His old friend Heinz Keßler made it to 97, so he’s still a good replacement for the empty spot that Hans Modrow left on the D-A-CH Deathlist—20% chance of dying. Alfred Brendel: He had back surgery in 2019 and cannot hear too well nowadays, which is sad for a world-class pianist like him—40% chance of dying. Eric Kandel: The first one to prove that learning and remembering cause anatomical changes in the brain. He really did some fieldwork in neurology and deservedly got the Nobel Prize in 2000. Chemical reactions in my brain convince me that he'll survive this year, though—35% chance of dying. Walter Schultheiß: He still appeared in movies until he retired in 2021 after his wife's death. He gave an interview last year for his 100th birthday and doesn't seem to be in the worst condition. He’s a bit like the West German Herbert Köfer in this regard, who also acted until he was 99—50% chance of dying. Samuel Adler: Another old conductor; not much is known about his health—40%. Ingrid Burkhard: Seems to enjoy her retirement—30%. Eugen Gomringer: Nothing special about his health aside from the fact that he's about to turn 100—50%. Hans-Joachim Paschmann: A district mayor of Duisburg—maybe the least famous name on this year's list, but a good candidate nonetheless. He has pancreatic cancer at 77, which is why he had to retire this year. He previously survived cancer in 2008. If I had to put my money on one of the people on this list dying, it would probably be him—85% chance of dying this year. Ursula Andress: She has had osteoporosis for ages now, which is painful but not necessarily lethal—35% chance of dying this year. Otto Schenk: He lost his wife in 2022, cannot walk anymore, and seems to have lost his will to live based on interviews. He also had a femoral neck fracture in 2010 when he fell from his bicycle at the age of 80, and he could be a goner this year—60% chance of dying this year. Sepp Blatter: He has been hospitalized a few times and was placed in an artificial coma once—55% chance of dying this year. Klaus-Michael Kühne: The richest man in Germany and an important shareholder of Lufthansa. He'll be 88 this year and had a heart valve defect 8 years ago, which required open-heart surgery to fix. He's a supporter of the Green Party. Unlike other parties in the broken coalition government, they seem to be quite stable in the polls, so he probably won't have a heart attack on election day next year when the results come in. As a billionaire, he will surely love a coalition between the CDU and Greens, which is one of the likeliest scenarios right now—25% chance of dying, considering his health history. Antje-Kathrin Kühnemann: She survived breast cancer, lost her husband a few years ago, and is in pain due to multiple operations on her feet, hands, and back due to falls and overloads. She hopes to die so that the pain finally ends. She certainly wants to be a hit on the DACH list, but life is unpredictable and her health doesn't seem to be so bad—25% chance of dying this year. Lutz Jahoda: A German entertainer in the GDR. He had to cancel a gig in 2017 and hasn't given interviews since his 95th birthday. He'll be 98 this year—55% chance of dying this year. Tony Bauer: A German comedian who's only 30 years old. He had to drop out of "Let's Dance" because of short-bowel syndrome, a disease he's had since he was eight. He was in a coma three times because of this illness, and his small intestine had to be removed. The long-term survival chance for kids with that disease seems to be quite good, though. I would say he's worth the gamble this year, although I cannot really see him dying yet—10% chance of dying this year. Friedrich Georg Beckhaus: A lot of old German voice actors have passed away recently, so maybe it’s reasonable to keep him on the list just in case—50%.
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Does she even have a cancer recurrence or are these just baseless media rumors? I think Radar Online should have shown us how reliable ,,insiders" and family friends are when it comes to the health problems of celebrities. But hey, if she's in Russia now, she might have luck and could get the same doctor who keeps Putin alive the past ten years, despite his Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, meth addiction, end-stage liver failure due to alcoholism, pancreatic cancer and syphilis.
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1. Black Bart 2. Georg Koch 3. Ian Smith 4. Peter Yarrow 5. Steve McMichael 6. John Cruickshank 7. Cecile Richards 8. Marita Camacho Quiros 9. Ludek Miklosko 10. Noam Chomsky Subs: 1. Joe Doering 2. V. S. Achuthanandan
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AGNES KELETI ANDREW RANKEN ASMA AL-ASSAD BERNADETTE CHIRAC CECILE RICHARDS CHRIS HOY DICK VAN DYKE GEOFFREY BOYCOTT GEORGE J MITCHELL GEORG KOCH GYÖRGY KURTÁG IAN SMITH JOE DOERING JOHN CRUICKSHANK LEONTYNE PRYCE LUKE HALPIN MARGOT FRIEDLÄNDER MEL BROOKS NIGEL STARMER SMITH PATRICK MURRAY PETER YARROW SONG PING WADE MACLEOD WILLIAM WEBSTER WOODY WOODBURY Subs: CLINT EASTWOOD HEINZ RIESENHUBER JUDI DENCH KING CHARLES WOODY ALLEN
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@John Key Is it too late to replace Johnnie Walker with a self-chosen name by now, or does one of my subs have to fill his place by now? Thanks.
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dead Johnnie Walker - how's he doing?
Prophet replied to Death Watch Beatle's topic in DeathList Forum
If only Augustus hadn't been so foolish as to give August an extra day, my DDP team would have had an extra hit by now. -
My List: 1. Ian Smith (actor) 2. Georg Koch 3. Rick 'Black Bart' Harris 4. Sophie Kinsella 5. Steve McMichael 6. Wade MacLeod 7. Peter Yarrow 8. Nigel Latta 9. Marita Camacho Quiros 10. Ludek Miklosko 11. Khamtai Siphandone 12. György Kurtag 13. V. S. Achuthanandan 14. Noam Chomsky 15. Eleonora Giorgi 16. Linda Nolan 17. Esther Rantzen 18. Tippi Hedren 19. Joe Doering 20. Jose Mujica 21. Rolf Schimpf 22. Eva Marie Saint 23. Violeta Chamorro 24. James Whale 25. Miguel Pinera 26. Chuwit Kamolvisit 27. Jack Hanna 28. Roberta Flack 29. Michael Tilson Thomas 30. David H. Murdock 31. Joanne Woodward 32. Jean-Marie Le Pen 33. Rita Süssmuth 34. Wang Xiji 35. Dick Van Dyke 36. Alexander Mitta 37. Mahathir Mohamed 38. Ray Anthony 39. Cindy Birdsong 40. William Webster 41. John Cruickshank 42. Oscar Wyatt 43. Nigel Starmer-Smith 44. Eddie Jordan 45. Bill Dundee 46. Jack Thompson 47. Yoko Ono 48. Tom Brokaw 49. David Attenborough 50. Harvey Weinstein Subs: 1. Buzz Aldrin 2. Katherine Karadordevic 3. Mel Brooks 4. Phil Robertson 5. Rosemary Harris
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My ballot: 1. Khamtai Siphandone 2. Paul Ignatius 3. V. S. Achuthanandan 4. Gaositwe Chiepe 5. Rita Süssmuth 6. Chuwit Kamolvisit 7. George Mitchell 8. Abdullah Badawi 9. Jose Sarney 10. Song Ping Subs: 1. Murayama Tomiichi 2. Arnold Rüütel
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My List: 1. Ian Smith (actor) 2. Georg Koch 3. Rick 'Black Bart' Harris 4. Sophie Kinsella 5. Steve McMichael 6. Wade MacLeod 7. Peter Yarrow 8. Nigel Latta 9. Marita Camacho Quiros 10. Ludek Miklosko 11. Khamtai Siphandone 12. György Kurtag 13. V. S. Achuthanandan 14. Noam Chomsky 15. Eleonora Giorgi 16. Linda Nolan 17. Esther Rantzen 18. Tippi Hedren 19. Cecile Richards 20. Jose Mujica 21. Rolf Schimpf 22. Eva Marie Saint 23. Violeta Chamorro 24. James Whale 25. Miguel Pinera 26. Chuwit Kamolvisit 27. Jack Hanna 28. Roberta Flack 29. Michael Tilson Thomas 30. David H. Murdock 31. Joanne Woodward 32. Jean-Marie Le Pen 33. Rita Süssmuth 34. Wang Xiji 35. Dick Van Dyke 36. Alexander Mitta 37. Mahathir Mohamed 38. Ray Anthony 39. Cindy Birdsong 40. William Webster 41. John Cruickshank 42. Oscar Wyatt 43. Nigel Starmer-Smith 44. Eddie Jordan 45. Bill Dundee 46. Jack Thompson 47. Yoko Ono 48. Tom Brokaw 49. David Attenborough 50. Harvey Weinstein Subs: 1. Buzz Aldrin 2. Katherine Karadordevic 3. Mel Brooks 4. Phil Robertson 5. Rosemary Harris
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Republicans should really invest a lot of money into Illinois, New York and New Jersey, considering how close the election was there. It would open up many more pathways to victory than they had before. Another interesting aspect of this election is that in the age of social media outrage, the incumbency advantage may have turned into an incumbency disadvantage. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a huge blue wave in four years.
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Who will win the 2020 US Presidential Election?
Prophet replied to Windsor's topic in DeathList extra-curricular
My prediction from four years ago wasn't far off, even though the margins were way off in the Rust Belt and I got Florida and North Carolina wrong. This year, my prediction would look something like this, but it's really a coin toss at this point. EDIT: Sorry, wrong topic. I was just thinking about my 2020 map that I posted here and looked it up. -
Yeah, but it's still sad that we now live in a world where the witnesses of World War I are slowly fading away. Also, a lot of people look down on Deathlisting in the same way that many here look down on these 110 Clubers. If getting a short dopamine rush (and let's be honest, that's what it is) because a random 40-year-old cancer mom passes away and you gain points on your virtual list is considered okay, then why should it be so strange when 110 Club members feel sad that an old person who died peacefully did not reach one of those "arbitrary milestones"?
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Some other German voice actors born before 1930 who are still alive following Eckart Dux's death are: Rolf Schimpf (14 November 1924), not a real voice actor but he did some dubbing work in the 80s, his health issues are well-known, I think and he's lived in a retirement home for almost 14 years now Joachim Konrad (15 November 1924), had over hundred roles in "Star Trek", "Twillight Zone", "Poirot" etc., there are rumours that he might died in 2017 but no source to confirm it Rolf Marnitz (6 December 1925), dubbed Harry Dean Stanton in "The Godfather II" and had some other minor roles in "Batman", "Star Wars" and "The Omen" but already retired in the early 90s, he continued to do audio books until 2014, he possibly died off-radar Detlev Witte (1 January 1926), his last role was Jason Robards in "Magnolia" in 2000 which he did fabulously and won an award for, an Wikipedia user edited his page in 2021 and claimed that he died on 8 August 2003 and corrected his birthdate to "9 May" but he didn't gave a source so that edit was reversed, on the other hand an supposed grandchild of his edited his page in 2017 to also correct his birth date to "9 May" and didn't wrote anything about him being passed away, he also said that he still has his German Dubbing Award and wants to add a picture of it to the article in future, which he never did Osman Ragheb (11 May 1926), half-Egyptian and half-Austrian, who grew up in the British Mandate of Palestine, and later spoke Tony Shalhoub, Jon Voight, Kreacher in the Harry Potter Franchise and Peter Vaughan in Game of Thrones, he also had a small acting role in Schindler's List and was a dialect coach who worked with Brad Pitt and Meryl Streep in his career, he's retired nowadays, is almost deaf and has some memory problems, even though he still writes poems for his wife, which he can recite by memory, he gave an radio interview last year and he's an very friendly and intelligent guy Thomas Reiner (29 October 1926), probably most well-known for dubbing Professor Farnsworth but he didn't had that role in the Futurama revival last year, seems to be still active irregulary and only complained about sight problems in an interview from 2016, his last job seems to have been in 2021 Richard Baier (27 November 1926), not a classical voice actor but he's the radio presenter who first announced the 20 July 1944 plot to the public during World War II and later delivered the last propaganda report of the "Greater German Broadcast", where he famously said "The Fuhrer is dead, long live the Empire", he later was a political prisoner in East Germany for his work with American Sector Radio broadcasts, because of his historical significance I highly doubt that he died without an report Renate Grosser (18 September 1927), she dubbed the creepy old women in "Blair Witch Project", who described the Blair Witch, as a hairy half-human and half-animal beast, aside from that she seemed to have done a lot of cheesy crime shows in the 70s and 80s Friedrich Georg Beckhaus (11 December 1927), voice of Harry Dean Stanton, Robert Duvall and Klaus Kinski (who was too lazy to dub himself, which annoyed the dub director, which is why they gave him a thick Saxon accent in some of his movies), he finally retired last year Jürgen Thormann (12 February 1928), lives in an retirement home now but still voiced Michael Caine last year to everyone's surprise Karl-Ulrich Meves (13 November 1928), voiced Grover in the German version of the Sesame street among other lesser known roles, recently came out of retirement to appear in an audio play Eva-Maria Lahl (1929), not much is known about her, couldn't even find a picture of her on the web but she voices Agnes Skinner in "The Simpsons" and is still active May these legends continue to live very long
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If the committee had included him this year, they could have used "He's not as alive as he once was" as a perfect headline.
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I have three hits: Derek Draper, Glynis Johns and Yury Solomin.