Cowboy Ronnie 78 Posted July 29, 2007 Thanks for the update OoO. I'd say those stats suggest the DL has been pretty well selected over the years. As recently as 1999 46 of the people nominated would be dead within 8 years. For what it's worth, "any one Beatle" has turned out to be right, they're not that old, so taking them off the 1987 still alives would seem to be ok. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Ronnie 78 Posted July 29, 2007 Thanks for the update OoO. I'd say those stats suggest the DL has been pretty well selected over the years. As recently as 1999 46 of the people nominated would be dead within 8 years. 35 of the 2003 are gone now. Etc. For what it's worth, "any one Beatle" has turned out to be right, they're not that old, so taking them off the 1987 still alives would seem to be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,100 Posted July 29, 2007 There's that echo again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Also, I have composed a DL-related list of my own. This covers every person who died that was on the DL at least once, not nessecarily on the list at the time of their death. An asterisk means the person WAS a scoring death. I may update it later on to include the years the people were included in, and feel free to point out mistakes. Before 1987 April 23, 1975 - William Hartnell January 18, 1985 - Wilfrid Brambell 1987 June 3 - Andrés Segovia* 1988 none 1989 January 23 - Salvador Dali* January 27 - Arthur Marshall (was first included when already dead) April 12 - Sugar Ray Robinson* June 4 - Ayatollah Khomeini July 11 - Laurence Olivier October 6 - Bette Davis December 1 - Ray Moore* 1990 January 8 - Terry Thomas* April 15 - Greta Garbo* May 18 - Jill Ireland* November 14 - Malcolm Muggeridge 1991 December 14 - John Arlott 1992 March 23 - Jim Joel* April 1 - Sir Michael Havers* May 6 - Marlene Deitrich* June 19 - Kitty Godfree* October 19 - Magnus Pyke November 7 - Alexander Dubček December 10 - Dan Maskell* 1993 January 6 - Rudolph Nureyev* January 20 - Audrey Hepburn* February 6 - Arthur Ashe* June 10 - Les Dawson* August 16 - Stewart Granger November 21 - Bill Bixby* November 28 - Kenneth Connor December 6 - Don Ameche 1994 January 5 - Brian Johnston* January 22 - Telly Savalas* February 19 - Derek Jarman* March 9 - Charles Bukowski March 15 - Jack Hargreaves April 1 - John Curry* April 22 - Richard Nixon* May 12 - John Smith May 29 - Erich Honecker* July 8 - Kim Il Sung* August 11 - Peter Cushing September 2 - Roy Castle* October 20 - Burt Lancaster* November 16 - Doris Speed 1995 January 22 - Rose Kennedy* February 2 - Fred Perry April 4 - Kenny Everett* April 25 - Ginger Rogers* April 27 - Peter Wright May 12 - Lord Arnold Goodman May 24 - Harold Wilson June 3 - Dilys Powell* July 22 - Harold Larwood* August 9 - Jerry Garcia October 9 - Alec Douglas-Home* October 18 - Red Rum November 4 - Marti Caine November 4 - Paul Eddington* November 12 - Jackie Mann* December 11 - Arthur Mullard December 25 - Dean Martin* 1996 January 8 - François Mitterrand* February 14 - Bob Paisley March 6 - Simon Cadell* March 9 - George Burns* May 3 - Tim Gullikson* May 20 - Jon Pertwee May 31 - Timothy Leary* June 7 - Glyn Worsnip* June 23 - Andreas Papandreou* October 13 - Beryl Reid 1997 February 19 - Deng Xiaoping* April 23 - Denis Compton June 25 - Jacques Cousteau* July 2 - Jimmy Stewart* August 2 - William S. Burroughs* September 4 - Jeffrey Bernard* September 5 - Mother Teresa* September 7 - Mobutu Sese Seko* September 9 - Burgess Meredith* November 25 - Hastings Banda* December 1 - Stéphane Grappelli December - George Chisholm 1998 January 1 - Helen Wills Moody* January 2 - Frank Muir April 15 - Pol Pot* April 23 - James Earl Ray* May 14 - Frank Sinatra* June 11 - Catherine Cookson* July 6 - Roy Rogers* October 17 - Joan Hickson* December 13 - Lord Lew Grade* 1999 February 7 - Hussein of Jordan* March 5 - Lord Denning* March 8 - Joe DiMaggio* March 12 - Yehudi Menuhin March 21 - Ernie Wise* April 28 - Alf Ramsey* May 6 - Johnny Morris May 13 - Gene Sarazen* June 6 - Anne Haddy July 1 - Willie Whitelaw August 4 - Victor Mature* August 9 - Helen Rollason* October 7 - Deryck Guyler* November 21 - Quentin Crisp* December 19 - Robert Dougall ??? - Stan Flashman 2000 January 22 - E. W. Swanton* January 26 - Don Budge* February 12 - Charles Schultz* February 23 - Stanley Matthews* March 27 - Ian Dury* April 14 - Wilf Mannion May 7 - Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.* May 21 - Barbara Cartland* May 21 - John Gielgud* July 1 - Walter Matthau* August 5 - Alec Guinness August 26 - Bunny Austin* September 9 - Julian Critchley September 30 - Fred Pontin December 23 - Victor Borge 2001 February 19 - Stanley Kramer* February 25 - Donald Bradman* March 2 - John Diamond* March 8 - Dame Ninette de Valois* March 22 - William Hanna* April 5 - Brother Theodore* April 11 - Harry Secombe* May 12 - Perry Como June 3 - Anthony Quinn June 21 - John Lee Hooker June 28 - Joan Sims June 30 - Joe Fagan August 3 - Frank Pakenham, 7th Earl of Longford* c. August 10 - Geoffrey Dickens October 12 - Lord Hailsham* November 23 - Mary Whitehouse* 2002 January 12 - Stanley Unwin February 9 - Princess Margaret February 22 - Chuck Jones* February 27 - Spike Milligan* March 27 - Milton Berle* March 27 - Dudley Moore* March 27 - Billy Wilder* March 30 - Elizabeth the Queen Mother* April 18 - Thor Heyerdahl May 3 - Barbara Castle May 12 - Joseph Bonanno* May 23 - Sam Snead* August 31 - Lionel Hampton* September 3 - W. Clement Stone* December 18 - Bert Millichip December 30 - Mary Wesley 2003 March 5 - Hardy Amies* March 10 - Barry Sheene* March 15 - Thora Hird* April 17 - Paul Getty June 8 - Leighton Rees June 12 - Gregory Peck* June 26 - Denis Thatcher* June 26 - Strom Thurmond* June 29 - Katharine Hepburn* July 6 - Buddy Ebsen July 12 - Benny Carter July 27 - Bob Hope* August 16 - Idi Amin* September 7 - Warren Zevon* September 8 - Leni Riefenstahl* September 9 - Edward Teller* September 12 - Johnny Cash* September 28 - Elia Kazan* 2004 March 20 - Queen Juliana* March 28 - Peter Ustinov* March 30 - Alistair Cooke* April 24 - Estée Lauder* May 20 - Lord Len Murray June 5 - Ronald Reagan* July 1 - Marlon Brando August 3 - Henri Cartier-Bresson* August 7 - Red Adair* August 8 - Fay Wray* September 20 - Brian Clough October 5 - Rodney Dangerfield* October 29 - Princess Alice* November 11 - Yasser Arafat December 8 - Lord Scarman* December 30 - Artie Shaw* 2005 January 23 - Johnny Carson February 2 - Max Schmeling* February 10 - Arthur Miller February 13 - Sister Lúcia* February 20 - Hunter S. Thompson March 26 - Lord James Callaghan* April 2 - Pope John Paul II* April 6 - Prince Rainier April 23 - John Mills* July 11 - Gretchen Franklin* July 17 - Edward Heath* July 20 - James Doohan* August 1 - Fahd of Saudi Arabia September 3 - William Rehnquist* September 20 - Simon Wiesenthal* October 3 - Ronnie Barker October 24 - Rosa Parks* December 10 - Richard Pryor* 2006 January 6 - Lou Rawls* February 3 - Al Lewis* March 9 - John Profumo* March 28 - Caspar Weinberger* April 13 - Muriel Spark April 29 - John Kenneth Galbraith May 14 - Stanley Kunitz* June 13 - Charles Haughey* June 23 - Aaron Spelling* September 10 - Taufa'ahau Tupou IV September 26 - Byron Nelson* October 28 - Red Auerbach October 31 - P.W. Botha* November 10 - Jack Palance November 16 - Milton Friedman* December 10 - Augusto Pinochet* December 18 - Joseph Barbera* December 26 - Gerald Ford* December 30 - Saddam Hussein 2007 February 6 - Frankie Laine March 6 - Ernest Gallo* April 23 - Boris Yeltsin June 14 - Kurt Waldheim* June 18 - Bernard Manning July 5 - George Melly* July 9 - Charles Lane* July 11 - Lady Bird Johnson* July 20 - Tammy Faye Messner* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 And I know the thread's about DL survivors, but I still thought it was a suitable mention. If not, an admin could just move my list to a different thread, I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Bearer 6,100 Posted July 29, 2007 Some people have Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on their hands. Why do you come in as a guest? Why not join? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Some people have Waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on their hands. Why do you come in as a guest? Why not join? I'll probably join. But yes, I do have a lot of time on my hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted July 29, 2007 No, it's interesting stuff in a way, as the DL clearly made some "off-the-wall" choices that proved to be bang on - I mean John Smith's selection, and the likes of Pakenham, Flashman & Budge point to quite an array of interests & different names. A lot of dead golfers there, and cricketers too. Maybe that's what the DL needs more of next year. Basil D'Oliviera for 2008 anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Siruis Vexid Posted July 30, 2007 Inetersetiung. LOL Yes, I concur. f*****g whisky, it zkesm me do the wildest sh*t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted July 30, 2007 Tell me which whiskey your drinking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Siruis Vexid Posted July 30, 2007 Tell me which whiskey your drinking? 14-yo Mortlach: Speyside Single Malt. Whisky, no "e". To me, it tastes like vomit, bit i'm tokld it's actually vwery good,. It fells ok in my head, but in my mouth it's f*****g BAD, , i proimse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted June 14, 2008 Time for another updated list, especially as Millwall32 brought back the healthy mularkey thread. 1987: Dunn, de Cesaris, Wing, Saville, Osbourne (5/31) 1988: ???????????? 1989: Bruno, Robson, Mandela, Ditka, Paisley, Kendall, Osbourne, Wilson, Dunn, Smith, Jenkins, Cole (12/32) 1990: Dunn, Noriega, Aznavour, Alliss, Ditka, Rex Williams, Winfrey, Smith, Aquino, Waite, Queen (11/42) 1991: Willis, Smith, Moore, Mandela, Dunn, Gabor, Beenhaaker (7/40) 1992: O'Brien, Cronkite, Finney, Ryder (4/37) 1993: Dunn, Bennett, Curtis, I Paisley, Demjanjuk, Kissinger, Ray Kennedy, Moore, Lineker, Sykes, Foot, Lewis (12/56) 1994: Castro, Demjanjuk, Kirkbride, White, Shamir, Dunn, Thorpe, Shilton, Johnson (8/50) 1995: Curtis, Demjanjuk, Castro, Moore, Forsyth, Connery, Johnson (7/50) 1996: Hagman, Demjanjuk, Mr T, Thorpe, Domino, Castro (6/50) 1997: Wisdom, Rooney, Domino, Douglas, Dunn (5/50) 1998: Rooney, Solzhenitsyn, Jaruzelski, Sykes (4/50) 1999: Havel, Leeson, Simon (3/50) 2000: Havel, Farrakan, Dunn, Foot, Jaruzelski, Biggs, Solzhenitsyn, Malden (8/50) 2001: Tutu, Minelli, Jones, Pincher, Wallach, Wouk, Rooney (7/50) 2002: Biggs, Brady, Foot, bin Laden, Malden, Higgins, Levi-Strauss, Douglas, Kendall, Niemeyer (10/50) 2003: Biggs, Jones, Foot, Malden, Morgan, Wisdom, Shamir, Cronkite, Rooney, Gabor, Sykes, Havel (12/50) 2004: Biggs, Foot, Levi-Strauss, Solzhenitsyn, Brady, Shamir, Musharraf, Wallach, Mintoff, Douglas, O'Brien, Michelmore, Rooney, Mugabe, Dunn (15/50) 2005: Biggs, Moore, Niemayer, Levi-Strauss, Wisdom, Taylor, Solzhenitsyn, Rayner, Karzai, Maradona, LaMotta, Foot, Martin, Wallach, Paul, de Havilland, Cronkite, O'Sullevan, Castro, Lewis, B Ford (21/50) 2006: di Stefano, Biggs, Niemayer, Levi-Stauss, Pinter, Moore, Foot, Wallach, Wisdom, Douglas, Mintoff, Lynn, Bouteflika, Solzhenitsyn, Graham, Thatcher, Ali, de Laurentiis, Salinger, Rayner, LaMotta, Rooney, Curtis, Mandela, Taylor, Dunn (26/50) 2007: 38 out of 50 survivors at present 2008: 41 out of 50 survivors at present It has to be said that some survivors of the DL are going on strong, despite their age. I suppose George Lineker will end up being the longest survivor on the list in years to come, but who knows? Clive Dunn IS immortal after all.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,639 Posted June 14, 2008 As a matter of interest, would anyone currently active in the admins of this site confess that in their younger and more reckless days they supported the nomination of George Lineker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,903 Posted June 14, 2008 I wonder which year will be the first to see all those listed die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrymcnallysblueandwhitearmy 1,684 Posted June 14, 2008 As a matter of interest, would anyone currently active in the admins of this site confess that in their younger and more reckless days they supported the nomination of George Lineker? I really wouldn't like to say, Officer. Incidentally, George's younger brother Angus has had trials with Chelsea, according to The Sun (while the Mail reckons it's a different brother, Tobias). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted June 14, 2008 I wonder which year will be the first to see all those listed die. My money would be on 1998: Rooney & Sykes are fine now, but well in their 80's, whereas Solzhenitsyn & Jaruzelski are in poor health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handrejka 1,903 Posted June 14, 2008 I wonder which year will be the first to see all those listed die. My money would be on 1998: Rooney & Sykes are fine now, but well in their 80's, whereas Solzhenitsyn & Jaruzelski are in poor health. I agree with you on that one . I must admit to not knowing of Jaruzelski before hand but I think he seems like a good bet for the not too distant future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 7,956 Posted June 15, 2008 I wonder which year will be the first to see all those listed die. My money would be on 1998: Rooney & Sykes are fine now, but well in their 80's, whereas Solzhenitsyn & Jaruzelski are in poor health. I agree with you on that one . I must admit to not knowing of Jaruzelski before hand but I think he seems like a good bet for the not too distant future. I think that he'd be a good pick for next year on DL if he lives to then, what with the hospitalizations he's had this year. And it's neat to see how the former list survivors go on. It shows that skill has improved in picks over the years - the early years of DL went under 50 pick wise, yet today some of those years still have at least 10 living names, yet there's 5 living names for '97, 4 for '98, and 3 for '99. And 2006 already has barely more than half of the list alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEP Posted June 15, 2008 Tell me which whiskey your drinking? 14-yo Mortlach: Speyside Single Malt. Whisky, no "e". To me, it tastes like vomit, bit i'm tokld it's actually vwery good,. It fells ok in my head, but in my mouth it's f*****g BAD, , i proimse. What about Holly Johnson, nominated in 1994/95 and the Queen in 1990. Are they not counted as "alive"? Also missing in 2004: Herbert lom and Karl Malden and in 2005 Lom again! And by the way, if I understand it right, it was not George Linaker, who was nominated, it was his son! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEP Posted June 15, 2008 Time for another updated list, especially as Millwall32 brought back the healthy mularkey thread. 1987: Dunn, de Cesaris, Wing, Saville, Osbourne (5/31) 1988: ???????????? 1989: Bruno, Robson, Mandela, Ditka, Paisley, Kendall, Osbourne, Wilson, Dunn, Smith, Jenkins, Cole (12/32) 1990: Dunn, Noriega, Aznavour, Alliss, Ditka, Rex Williams, Winfrey, Smith, Aquino, Waite (10/42) 1991: Willis, Smith, Moore, Mandela, Dunn, Gabor, Beenhaaker (7/40) 1992: O'Brien, Cronkite, Finney, Ryder (4/37) 1993: Dunn, Bennett, Curtis, I Paisley, Demjanjuk, Kissinger, Ray Kennedy, Moore, Lineker, Sykes, Foot, Lewis (12/56) 1994: Castro, Demjanjuk, Kirkbride, White, Shamir, Dunn, Thorpe, Shilton (7/50) 1995: Curtis, Demjanjuk, Castro, Moore, Forsyth, Connery (6/50) 1996: Hagman, Demjanjuk, Mr T, Thorpe, Domino, Castro (6/50) 1997: Wisdom, Rooney, Domino, Douglas, Dunn (5/50) 1998: Rooney, Solzhenitsyn, Jaruzelski, Sykes (4/50) 1999: Havel, Leeson, Simon (3/50) 2000: Havel, Farrakan, Dunn, Foot, Jaruzelski, Biggs, Solzhenitsyn, Malden (8/50) 2001: Tutu, Minelli, Jones, Pincher, Wallach, Wouk, Rooney (7/50) 2002: Biggs, Brady, Foot, bin Laden, Malden, Higgins, Levi-Strauss, Douglas, Kendall, Niemeyer (10/50) 2003: Biggs, Jones, Foot, Malden, Morgan, Wisdom, Shamir, Cronkite, Rooney, Gabor, Sykes, Havel (12/50) 2004: Biggs, Foot, Levi-Strauss, Solzhenitsyn, Brady, Shamir, Musharraf, Wallach, Mintoff, Douglas, O'Brien, Michelmore, Rooney, Mugabe, Dunn (15/50) 2005: Biggs, Moore, Niemayer, Levi-Strauss, Wisdom, Taylor, Solzhenitsyn, Rayner, Karzai, Maradona, LaMotta, Foot, Martin, Wallach, Paul, de Havilland, Cronkite, O'Sullevan, Castro, Lewis, B Ford (21/50) 2006: di Stefano, Biggs, Niemayer, Levi-Stauss, Pinter, Moore, Foot, Wallach, Wisdom, Douglas, Mintoff, Lynn, Bouteflika, Solzhenitsyn, Graham, Thatcher, Ali, de Laurentiis, Salinger, Rayner, LaMotta, Rooney, Curtis, Mandela, Taylor, Dunn (26/50) 2007: 38 out of 50 survivors at present 2008: 41 out of 50 survivors at present It has to be said that some survivors of the DL are going on strong, despite their age. I suppose George Lineker will end up being the longest survivor on the list in years to come, but who knows? Clive Dunn IS immortal after all.... What about Holly Johnson, nominated in 1994/95 and the Queen in 1990. Are they not counted as "alive"? Also missing in 2004: Herbert lom and Karl Malden and in 2005 Lom again! And by the way, if I understand it right, it was not George Linaker, who was nominated, it was his son! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted June 15, 2008 What about Holly Johnson, nominated in 1994/95 and the Queen in 1990. Are they not counted as "alive"?Also missing in 2004: Herbert lom and Karl Malden and in 2005 Lom again! And by the way, if I understand it right, it was not George Linaker, who was nominated, it was his son! You haven't understood a lot right, no. I'll admit Johnson & the Queen, apologies. But Lom & Malden are not missing, because they weren't PICKED in 2004 & 2005!! ..and considering George Lineker (note spelling) was a baby when he was picked, I find it hard to understand how he might have had a son nominated? Unlike you, I do know the difference between Gary & George Lineker. So, next time you come in with pissy comments about my errors, make sure you've not made any of your own, son... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEP Posted June 15, 2008 What about Holly Johnson, nominated in 1994/95 and the Queen in 1990. Are they not counted as "alive"?Also missing in 2004: Herbert lom and Karl Malden and in 2005 Lom again! And by the way, if I understand it right, it was not George Linaker, who was nominated, it was his son! You haven't understood a lot right, no. I'll admit Johnson & the Queen, apologies. But Lom & Malden are not missing, because they weren't PICKED in 2004 & 2005!! ..and considering George Lineker (note spelling) was a baby when he was picked, I find it hard to understand how he might have had a son nominated? Unlike you, I do know the difference between Gary & George Lineker. So, next time you come in with pissy comments about my errors, make sure you've not made any of your own, son... I see that I was wrong, I really apologize about that Lineker thing... But according to Malden and Lom, I searched them on the search tool. (It is in the first row under "search") When you type "Karl Malden" into the box, you will see, that he was nominated as number 33 in 2004. The same search for Herbert Lom shows, that he was number 44 in 2004 and 45 in 2005. Of course, they are not written onto the list, all these numbers are missing, but also are number 1 "Pope John Paul II" and number 10 "Rodney Dangerfield". (And he scored for 2004, didn't he?) I was always wondering about the fact that Mr. Dangerfield was noted in as "kill" without being listed. But of course sorry for my try to help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,186 Posted June 15, 2008 I see that I was wrong, I really apologize about that Lineker thing... But according to Malden and Lom, I searched them on the search tool. (It is in the first row under "search") When you type "Karl Malden" into the box, you will see, that he was nominated as number 33 in 2004. The same search for Herbert Lom shows, that he was number 44 in 2004 and 45 in 2005. Of course, they are not written onto the list, all these numbers are missing, but also are number 1 "Pope John Paul II" and number 10 "Rodney Dangerfield". (And he scored for 2004, didn't he?) But of course sorry for my try to help! Sorry, WEP, I was very cranky this morning as I have a rotten cold & took it the wrong way. Looking back now, I was a bit rude (alright, very rude), which is not my way (bar Iain postings), so many apologies for that & thanks for your help. Hmmm... So Malden & Lom are listed on 2004 & 2005, but are not on the list on the main page.. Mysteries indeed... is there a black box of the DL where people go missing or is there an error somewhere? I think we should be told... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted June 15, 2008 I see that I was wrong, I really apologize about that Lineker thing... But according to Malden and Lom, I searched them on the search tool. (It is in the first row under "search") When you type "Karl Malden" into the box, you will see, that he was nominated as number 33 in 2004. The same search for Herbert Lom shows, that he was number 44 in 2004 and 45 in 2005. Of course, they are not written onto the list, all these numbers are missing, but also are number 1 "Pope John Paul II" and number 10 "Rodney Dangerfield". (And he scored for 2004, didn't he?) But of course sorry for my try to help! Sorry, WEP, I was very cranky this morning as I have a rotten cold & took it the wrong way. Looking back now, I was a bit rude (alright, very rude), which is not my way (bar Iain postings), so many apologies for that & thanks for your help. Hmmm... So Malden & Lom are listed on 2004 & 2005, but are not on the list on the main page.. Mysteries indeed... is there a black box of the DL where people go missing or is there an error somewhere? I think we should be told... 2004: Numbers 1, 10, 28, 33, 37 and 44 are missing. (use them for your Lottery numbers) 2005: 40 and 45 are missing. 1991: No-one died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WEP Posted June 15, 2008 I see that I was wrong, I really apologize about that Lineker thing... But according to Malden and Lom, I searched them on the search tool. (It is in the first row under "search") When you type "Karl Malden" into the box, you will see, that he was nominated as number 33 in 2004. The same search for Herbert Lom shows, that he was number 44 in 2004 and 45 in 2005. Of course, they are not written onto the list, all these numbers are missing, but also are number 1 "Pope John Paul II" and number 10 "Rodney Dangerfield". (And he scored for 2004, didn't he?) But of course sorry for my try to help! Sorry, WEP, I was very cranky this morning as I have a rotten cold & took it the wrong way. Looking back now, I was a bit rude (alright, very rude), which is not my way (bar Iain postings), so many apologies for that & thanks for your help. Hmmm... So Malden & Lom are listed on 2004 & 2005, but are not on the list on the main page.. Mysteries indeed... is there a black box of the DL where people go missing or is there an error somewhere? I think we should be told... 2004: Numbers 1, 10, 28, 33, 37 and 44 are missing. (use them for your Lottery numbers) 2005: 40 and 45 are missing. 1991: No-one died. I looked up the missing ones: 2004: Pope John Paul I (1), Rodney Dangerfield (10), Edward Heath (28), Karl Malden (33), General Pinochet (37), Herbert Lom (44) (so only two survivors...) 2005: General Pinochet (40), Herbert Lom (45) (Lom goes on...) So finally, we know, who is missing without being missed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites