John "요한" Sulu 430 Posted Tuesday at 16:38 1 minute ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? I list them by chronological birth date order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted Tuesday at 16:40 4 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? I do not rank mine in no particular order 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lafaucheuse 4,099 Posted Tuesday at 16:41 5 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dimreaper 778 Posted Tuesday at 16:56 20 minutes ago, Lafaucheuse said: quick question while I'm here : how do you choose the order of your list ? Do you put the most famous people in the top spots or your rank them by likelihood to die ? Personally, I go with likelihood of dying. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted Tuesday at 18:44 2 hours ago, Lafaucheuse said: + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? I believe they rank 1-50 with the likelihood of them dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted Wednesday at 00:17 10 hours ago, Steve said: @livingbygrace thanks for your kind comment. I did loads of editing too before deciding on this final draft. It's good though imho to have plenty to choose from than not enough. Good luck though on your final selections but you will do fab I'm sure. Hopefully.. I guess I feel I have a good possibility that 2025 can only go up from 2024 considering I only got 8 hits this past year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Fear Beag 1,584 Posted 13 hours ago On 24/12/2024 at 16:41, Lafaucheuse said: + how does the "committee" ranks the official picks ? I have only been around here for a few years, so I can't be sure of this. Some of the older members may be able to confirm. I think the "committee" meets up in a pub on December 31st, and drunkenly scrawls down names on whatever they can find. At approximately 11.30pm they pick 50 of them, ranking them on how legible the names are on the beer-mats.. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 594 Posted 8 hours ago My 2024 Shadow list was a little bit of a letdown with just 11 deaths, still well short of my 2020 record of 24. Plenty of new blood for 2025 might be able to give my Shadow list a much needed boost. Buzz Aldrin Stanley Baxter Tim Bilton Hans Blix Tom Brokaw Mel Brooks Leslie Caron Jimmy Carter Raul Castro Noam Chomsky Roberta Flack Sandy Gall Alan Greenspan Gene Hackman Chris Hoy Sophie Kinsella Cleo Laine Jean-Marie Le Pen June Lockhart Imelda Marcos Steve McMichael Lee Meriwether Mahathir Mohamad Desmond Morris Sam Neill Willie Nelson Linda Nolan Yoko Ono Isabel Peron Larry Pressler Esther Rantzen Sonny Rollins Linda Ronstadt Eva Marie Saint Prunella Scales Ian Smith Nigel Starmer-Smith Michael Tilson Thomas Ted Turner Frankie Valli James Van Der Beek Dick Van Dyke William H. Webster Harvey Weinstein James Whale Bruce Willis Emily Willis Joanne Woodward Peter Yarrow Miloš Zeman Subs: Sophia Loren Mahmoud Abbas Denis Law Theo Burrell Tom Lehrer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,196 Posted 3 hours ago Before I submit my 2025 shadowlist, what are some opinions on it? If this was the 2025 DL, would you be happy with it? Who is there who shouldn't be and who is missing who shouldn't be? 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Noam Chomsky 3. Stanley Baxter 4. Nigel Starmer-Smith 5. Jean-Marie Le Pen 6. Cleo Laine 7. Esther Rantzen 8. Pete Murray 9. Mahathir Mohamad 10. Don King 11. Joanne Woodward 12. James Watson 13. Yoko Ono 14. Roberta Flack 15. Stuart Hall 16. Imelda Marcos 17. Eva Marie Saint 18. Joan Plowright 19. Dennis Skinner 20. Buzz Aldrin 21. Tippi Hedren 22. Tom Brokaw 23. Leo Beenhakker 24. Julie Goodyear 25. Dick Van Dyke 26. Sonny Rollins 27. Leontyne Price 28. Rex Williams 29. Len Deighton 30. Douglas Hurd 31. Raul Castro 32. John Williams 33. Bernadette Chirac 34. Jean Marsh 35. Bill Cosby 36. Vanessa Redgrave 37. Jack Nicholson 38. Ted Turner 39. James Ivory 40. Denis Law 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Michael York 43. Joe Pesci 44. Harvey Weinstein 45. Robert Duvall 46. Liza Minnelli 47. Geoffrey Boycott 48. Prunella Scales 49. Gene Hackman 50. Chris Rea 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, The Daredevil said: Before I submit my 2025 shadowlist, what are some opinions on it? If this was the 2025 DL, would you be happy with it? Who is there who shouldn't be and who is missing who shouldn't be? 1. Jimmy Carter 2. Noam Chomsky 3. Stanley Baxter 4. Nigel Starmer-Smith 5. Jean-Marie Le Pen 6. Cleo Laine 7. Esther Rantzen 8. Pete Murray 9. Mahathir Mohamad 10. Don King 11. Joanne Woodward 12. James Watson 13. Yoko Ono 14. Roberta Flack 15. Stuart Hall 16. Imelda Marcos 17. Eva Marie Saint 18. Joan Plowright 19. Dennis Skinner 20. Buzz Aldrin 21. Tippi Hedren 22. Tom Brokaw 23. Leo Beenhakker 24. Julie Goodyear 25. Dick Van Dyke 26. Sonny Rollins 27. Leontyne Price 28. Patricia Routledge 29. Len Deighton 30. Douglas Hurd 31. Raul Castro 32. John Williams 33. Bernadette Chirac 34. Jean Marsh 35. Bill Cosby 36. Vanessa Redgrave 37. Jack Nicholson 38. Rex Williams 39. James Ivory 40. Denis Law 41. Norman Tebbit 42. Michael York 43. Joe Pesci 44. Harvey Weinstein 45. Robert Duvall 46. Liza Minnelli 47. Geoffrey Boycott 48. Prunella Scales 49. Gene Hackman 50. Chris Rea I really like your list @The Daredevil but personally I would drop Patricia Routledge as she seems in too good health for 2025. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,196 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Steve said: I really like your list @The Daredevil but personally I would drop Patricia Routledge as she seems in too good health for 2025. Good idea; Rex Williams will hence bounce up to her position, and Ted Turner will be added as the new no. 38. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted 3 hours ago Just now, The Daredevil said: Good idea; Rex Williams will hence bounce up to her position, and Ted Turner will be added as the new no. 38. Or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a possibility? Ian Smith (Harold Bishop in Neighbours)? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,196 Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Steve said: Or Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a possibility? Ian Smith (Harold Bishop in Neighbours)? Ian Smith should not be famous enough for list in my mind (although will get BBC obit for sure). Khamenei definitely famous enough but I can see him going into 2026. Clint Eastwood and Brigitte Bardot were two last minute take aways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve 658 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Daredevil said: Ian Smith should not be famous enough for list in my mind (although will get BBC obit for sure). Khamenei definitely famous enough but I can see him going into 2026. Clint Eastwood and Brigitte Bardot were two last minute take aways. I like your inclusion of Chris Rea as a number 50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,196 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Steve said: I like your inclusion of Chris Rea as a number 50 Yes, nobody ever hears anything about him nowadays, and that plus his unfortunate health history... Rea also reminds me of Johnny Hallyday (died at 74!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobytomi 138 Posted 2 hours ago My 2025 Shadow list: 1) Jimmy Carter 2) Bill Clinton 3) Jean-Marie Le Pen 4) Joanne Woodward 5) Torsten Wiesel 6) Raul Castro 7) Cleo Laine 8) Noam Chomsky 9) Alan Greenspan 10) Mahathir Mohamad 11) William H. Webster 12) Rosemary Harris 13) Maurice R. Greenberg 14) Tomiichi Murayama 15) Chen Ning-Yang 16) John Astin 17) Empress Michiko 18) Violeta Chamorro 19) Stanley Baxter 20) Marianne Koch 21) Nigel-Starmer Smith 22) Oscar Wyatt 23) Rex Williams 24) Lisa Lu 25) Jack Nicholson 26) Woody Woodbury 27) Imelda Marcos 28) Steve McMichael 29) Charles Dolan 30) Fauja Singh 31) James Ivory 32) Buzz Aldrin 33) Jim Lovell 34) Agnes Keleti 35) Vernon L. Smith 36) Jacqueline White 37) Gene Hackman 38) Douglas Hurd 39) Lee Grant 40) Gerard Kennedy 41) Rudolph A. Marcus 42) Frank Fontaine (actor born 1936) 43) Gene Shalit 44) Gerald Holton 45) Josef Fritzl 46) Sidney Cooke 47) Will Hutchins 48) Sister Jean 49) György Kurtág 50) Jiro Ono Subs: * Marion Ross * Sandy Gall * Phil Collins * Alexander Mitta * Marianne Bernadotte Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livingbygrace 435 Posted 1 hour ago I have a few people that are on my list that I am still debating on. They seem to be wasted picks because they do not seem to be in any real danger, except for their age. But a part of me does not want to take the chance of having them as a miss because they are people that are kind of iconic for me. At the same time I think to keep them on am I missing out on others that might be more of a sure hit for the year.Mainly.. Marion Ross 96 Tina Louise 90 Julie Andrews 89 Barbra Eden 93 I think in the end I am just going to keep them.. But if the Pope, Frankie Vallie or Rupert Murdock dies this year I am going to kick myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
