The EU Referendum Hokey Cokey

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11 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

To be frank it was inevitable, and I will give him a chance. Dimbleby doesn't want to do it any more (and 55 years after he first did a constituency link, who can blame him). 

 

The rest of the team isn't too bad. I can't bear the idea of watching another channel and Tom Bradbury appears to be lined up for ITV which is an even worse choice.....

I'll be watching sky news and dumbing Kay Burley.

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15 minutes ago, redrumours said:

I'll be watching sky news and dumbing Kay Burley.

 

Jesus. That sounds like torture.

[YoungWillz 21,054]

Let's face it, the sheeple are being led into a Brexit election - it's all about Brexit, nothing matters but Brexit, and yet those I have spoken to simply aren't voting because they have lost faith. But when you distil everything down, Brexit doesn't really matter anymore. To some extent Farage is correct - Brexit should be about the trade deal we can do while exiting the political institutions. He is of course wrong on everything else. A Tory Brexit is all about replacing freedom of movement for EU nationals with freedom of movement for the Indian sub-continent, Asia and anywhere else where labour is cheaper. It's inherently a racist policy, allowing a form of economic Imperialism.

 

The main focus should be on climate change, training and job creation, career stability, better infrastructure, more beat cops, a secure NHS free from foreign influence, yada yada yada. At the end of the day there are three types of voter - those "who have always voted X" and will never ever change, those who vote on local issues (how does the policy affect my area? - see HS2) and those who are now voting on pressure causes, like climate change, fracking and the like. Brexit will be the only thing some voters will vote on or indeed fail to vote on, but the outcome one way or another will be hailed as a determinative factor on it - and it simply will not.

 

Had a look at my constituency last time and it looks like the swing from SNP to Conservative just cost the SNP the seat which went to Labour. No Ruth Davidson and the toxic Bawjaws may again lead to Tory swing voters swinging back to SNP to keep Labour out. Yesterday it was pointed out that two-thirds of the UK marginals are in Scotland - and yet none of the major Unionist parties seem to have realised this - or they simply do not care - because their message is that Scotland's Brexit vote never mattered anyway.

 

But it might end up that there's a ton more marginals across the UK after this election - and possibly as a result a ton more petitions for recall in due course.

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Even Brexit Party HQ don't know who their fucking candidates are.

 

 

 

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Dodgy Candidate Round Up Number 1

It's - Who the fuck runs your vetting process, you daft cunts day. It can only be a snap election....

 

Brexit Party

• One has been dropped after claiming to be from a distant star.
• Another has refused to deny that gay sex is a sin
• One who is an Australian and moved here in 2018 and has never lived in Worthing (where he's standing).

There's 600 of these so I'm sure more will emerge. And

• The Brexit Party media chief attacked 'slobbering old queers' as a reason not to equalise the age of consent.

 

For balance (none of these have been dropped) the Tories have JRM who's attacked Grenfell victims lack of common sense and the woman who said business , Labour have the woman who said she'd celebrate Blair's death and a raging homophobe who's got a free pass for being muslim and the Lib Dems have a candidate caught up in a race row and one for Islington who claimed she didn't know whether Emily Thornberry was a good MP because she didn't live in the constituency.......

 

*the raging homophobe - Salma Yaqoob - I was thinking of is on the mayoral shortlist for West Midlands not a GE candidate; but there's another one who's actually standing in Roger Godsiff.

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Much shorter list if you do the "honourable, integrity filled and upstanding member of society" candidates imo.

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8 minutes ago, msc said:

Much shorter list if you do the "honourable, integrity filled and upstanding member of society" candidates imo.

 

Probably.

 

Although West Bromwhich East is shaping up to be a fucking good one.

George Galloway (Independent)

Harvey Proctor (Independent)

Tom Watson (Labour)

 

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5 hours ago, Kinnock said:

 

Dodgy Candidate Round Up Number 1

It's - Who the fuck runs your vetting process, you daft cunts day. It can only be a snap election....

 

Brexit Party

• One has been dropped after claiming to be from a distant star.
• Another has refused to deny that gay sex is a sin
• One who is an Australian and moved here in 2018 and has never lived in Worthing (where he's standing).

 

There's 600 of these so I'm sure more will emerge. And

 

 

This is the full interview with the lunatic...

 

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23 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

 

This is the full interview with the lunatic...

 

That’s some specialist stuff there. What an absolute fud. 

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59 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

That’s some specialist stuff there. What an absolute fud. 

He's converted me from a radical atheist humanist in 7 minutes there. What a guy, I'm moving just to vote for him.

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Security services intervene to say No 10 is blocking the Russian interference report for no good reason.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/russia-conservative-party-brexit-intelligence-uk-report-national-security-money-a9185116.html?utm_source=reddit.com

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On 04/11/2019 at 11:17, Kinnock said:

 

Huw Edwards is doing election night.

 

 

That's a turn up, a white middle-aged male getting a new gig on the BBC.

No doubt Misses Chakrabati, Munchetti and both the Mabuse sisters will be in support to maintain balance.

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8 minutes ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said:

 

That's a turn up, a white middle-aged male getting a new gig on the BBC.

No doubt Misses Chakrabati, Munchetti and both the Mabuse sisters will be in support to maintain balance.

 

I'm afraid it's a line but not a full house.

 

Chakbrati and Munchetti - Bingo

 

No Mabuse Sisters. 

 

Also there auto-generated the articles for constituency results, that'll be a laugh.

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On 05/11/2019 at 10:44, Kinnock said:

 

Probably.

 

Although West Bromwhich East is shaping up to be a fucking good one.

George Galloway (Independent)

Harvey Proctor (Independent)

Tom Watson (Labour)

 

 

Sadly Tom Watson has stood down from the race and by virtue of the fact Proctor was standing purely to stand against Tom Watson rather than in favour of anything he's also standing down. Most interesting election of the night is now diminished to classic George Galloway v Labour.

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The Green Party, Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats have formed an electoral pact covering 60-70 seats.

 

Unfortunately it appears no-one told Caroline Lucas.

 

 

 

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Reading some of the Arron Banks leaks. Interesting. I won’t share incase it’s legally shaky but there’s people less tentative than me spreading it all over Twitter and everywhere else.

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Where was this geezer when we needed him to speak up in 2016? 
 

[YoungWillz 21,054]

Well, we are here, the day we take our whole selves out, do the hokey cokey and we turn around.

 

Typical, we leave the EU and the world catches a cold!

 

On a side note, Michael Gove seems to have lost his glasses. Tbf, with or without, he still looks and sounds like a cunt.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-nigel-farage-parliament-square-a9312436.html?

[YoungWillz 21,054]

2 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said:

I’d say, despite being an ardent supporter of remaining in the EU and being of the opinion that leaving would be the single biggest error this country has made in the post-war period, that I’d agree that one of the flaws of the EU is that the Presidents are elected by MEPs, so the population of the EU28 as it was were only secondarily involved - that doesn’t necessarily sit right with me either.

 

I wouldn’t say to all Brexiters that they didn’t know what they’re voting for, but IDS did put across a fantasist’s view, voted for the WA because Boris our it through and he’s fucking shit hot obviously, and is now bitching that it’s not a great deal for anyone. It has been apparent all this time. He didn’t have a clue, quelle surprise. He’s a fucking fud. 
 

Just out of genuine interest, your reasons for (and perhaps perceived benefits of) voting in 2016 to leave the EU: are they still realistically attainable now?

 

I only ask because about half my colleagues voted leave and all bar one bitterly regret their vote because of all the shite that has come to light since then.

Moving this here to reply briefly to the last two sentences.

 

No, I would still vote leave today. Almost everything I predicted would happen has come to pass. The Westminster Government of the day (whatever colour it would have been) would have fucked it up - perhaps not quite as badly as Blibberwimble and his circus of clowns, alleged rapists, sex offenders and expenses gobblers.

 

No regrets, no tears goodbye...

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6 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Moving this here to reply briefly to the last two sentences.

 

No, I would still vote leave today. Almost everything I predicted would happen has come to pass. The Westminster Government of the day (whatever colour it would have been) would have fucked it up - perhaps not quite as badly as Blibberwimble and his circus of clowns, alleged rapists, sex offenders and expenses gobblers.

 

No regrets, no tears goodbye...

How do you feel about your vote playing handsomely into the hands of the loathsome people you describe? Did you correctly predict that?

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6 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

How do you feel about your vote playing handsomely into the hands of the loathsome people you describe? Did you correctly predict that?

Oh, it wouldn't have mattered. Do I vote with loathesome Cameron or loathsome Blibberwimble? That was the choice. Not voting wasn't an option for me. 

 

My one and only concern was to ensure the heightening of desire for independence from the United Kingdom. And that has worked.

 

Every day that passes, Scotland looks on in horror at the total crap we have for supposed leaders in the South. Mwahahahahah.

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12 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Oh, it wouldn't have mattered. Do I vote with loathesome Cameron or loathsome Blibberwimble? That was the choice. Not voting wasn't an option for me. 

 

My one and only concern was to ensure the heightening of desire for independence from the United Kingdom. And that has worked.

 

Every day that passes, Scotland looks on in horror at the total crap we have for supposed leaders in the South. Mwahahahahah.

It looks in horror. It doesn’t get another independence referendum though, does it? And, unlike potentially with EU membership, a change of UK government still won’t change that. So as far as you’re concerned, your vote has achieved ‘Blibberwimble’ becoming a world leader and Scottish people becoming a bit more unhappy. Worthwhile 

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4 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said:

It looks in horror. It doesn’t get another independence referendum though, does it? And, unlike potentially with EU membership, a change of UK government still won’t change that. So as far as you’re concerned, your vote has achieved ‘Blibberwimble’ becoming a world leader and Scottish people becoming a bit more unhappy. Worthwhile 

Ahem.

 

You've extrapolated that too far. The English voted Blibberwimble in with a mahoosive majority. The English voted for Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party. I didn't vote for that - Blibberwimble is actor #3 in post long after my vote counted.

 

There's been no deaths from COVID in ages in Scotland and every day our leader is on the stand in front of the people regardless. Blibberwimble didn't even do every day and his team gave it up weeks ago. Whether I'm on board with everything the SNP want or not, I know what a world leader looks like. And it ain't any of the Unionist leaders in Westminster.

 

If you think Blibberwimble is a "world leader" by default of being in post of PM, you haven't seen the world leaders I have over the years. The only thing he's been good at leading is coke up his nostrils and his cock into various tunnels.

 

Ignoring the demand for at least a vote on independence if requested will make him a hypocrite. I'm sure he's not bothered about that - he'll be more concerned about the oncoming storm of terrorism in Northern Ireland.

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9 minutes ago, YoungWillz said:

Ahem.

 

You've extrapolated that too far. The English voted Blibberwimble in with a mahoosive majority. The English voted for Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party. I didn't vote for that - Blibberwimble is actor #3 in post long after my vote counted.

 

There's been no deaths from COVID in ages in Scotland and every day our leader is on the stand in front of the people regardless. Blibberwimble didn't even do every day and his team gave it up weeks ago. Whether I'm on board with everything the SNP want or not, I know what a world leader looks like. And it ain't any of the Unionist leaders in Westminster.

 

If you think Blibberwimble is a "world leader" by default of being in post of PM, you haven't seen the world leaders I have over the years. The only thing he's been good at leading is coke up his nostrils and his cock into various tunnels.

 

Ignoring the demand for at least a vote on independence if requested will make him a hypocrite. I'm sure he's not bothered about that - he'll be more concerned about the oncoming storm of terrorism in Northern Ireland.

 

That all being said about Johnson, he's a world leader, by virtue of him leading the governing political party in this country. By definition, that's what one is, no matter how irrefutably shonky some may be. It'd be different if I was saying something like Leader of the Free World - that's open to discussion with regard to what the 'free world' is.

 

I haven't extrapolated anything too far. I've merely added in the fact that a Scottish indyref isn't imminent to the only reason you gave for voting to leave the EU - to make the Scottish unhappy about being part of the UK. Given that you apparently predicted everything that's happened with regard to EU negotiations and the UK government so far, you obviously also predicted that this is all the vote going your way would achieve. So, your vote has put Johnson in power, as you thought it would, and it's made Scotland miserable, as you thought it would.

 

And no, ignoring the request for another Scottish independence referendum wouldn't be hypocritical - it'd be in line with what was said before the referendum took place - this is once in a generation.