Alt Obituaries Deadpool

[Joey Russ 7,227]

4 hours ago, alt obits guy said:

Sorry to disappoint you Joey Russ.   Perhaps a duet with Manikan, if nobody has him besides us?

 

It’s a trio. You’ll never guess who the third person was...

[alt obits guy 3,371]

33 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

It’s a trio. You’ll never guess who the third person was...

Yes, I just read the notification e-mail.  Doesn't surprise me.  Well, the game is on. 

[Joey Russ 7,227]

2 minutes ago, alt obits guy said:

Yes, I just read the notification e-mail.  Doesn't surprise me.  Well, the game is on. 

Yeah, I was kind of expecting him to have him too once you mentioned that Manikan was on your team as well. So we’re all joint second at the moment (the person who’s currently first was the one who soloed with Jerry Van Dyke), but it’s only early days right now...

[alt obits guy 3,371]

7 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

Yeah, I was kind of expecting him to have him too once you mentioned that Manikan was on your team as well. So we’re all joint second at the moment (the person who’s currently first was the one who soloed with Jerry Van Dyke), but it’s only early days right now...

Yes, it is.  What I've noticed is that some people tend to play old Hollywood and better known names.  Anyone who does can benefit from an early death, like a Jerry Van Dyke.  In time, it's those who've made the effort to put people on their list that've been diagnosed with a serious illness who emerge as pool leaders.   

[Joey Russ 7,227]

49 minutes ago, alt obits guy said:

Yes, it is.  What I've noticed is that some people tend to play old Hollywood and better known names.  Anyone who does can benefit from an early death, like a Jerry Van Dyke.  In time, it's those who've made the effort to put people on their list that've been diagnosed with a serious illness who emerge as pool leaders.   

That's true of any dead pool nowadays. Imo, there are three main types of dead poolers in almost any pool. The first type is the casual type, which are people who just put in old actors or people they really want to die (with the latter being something I'm not a fan of at all). They tend to score low, but they don't really care if they lose or not cause they're just doing it for fun. The second type of dead poolers, which I think is a little absent in alt obits since they don't reveal any names until they're hits, are the ones that mix in picks that casual players choose along with some public ill names that received lots of coverage. They tend to score within the middle of the dead pooling table. Picks that I think the second type might pick this year include John McCain, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Nolan, and Leah Bracknell. Maybe Stefan Karl, Liam Miller, or Greg Gilbert, but that's about it. Then the third type are the competitors who try for gold. Those are the ones who do a lot of research for ill picks in order to pick out names in order to try and win gold, and they try to pick younger folk for the DDP in order to gain more points. It is this type of dead pooler that will almost always win any competition nowadays due to how the art of dead pooling evolve. It's just seeing which of the researchers in dead pooling that would win...

[Toast 16,140]

3 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

 they don't really care if they lose or not cause they're just doing it as a hobby.

 

I think anybody who's not just doing it as a hobby needs to have a word with themselves. 

[Joey Russ 7,227]

4 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

I think anybody who's not just doing it as a hobby needs to have a word with themselves. 

Clearly phrased that wrong, but I’m not sure how else to word it. Maybe you can help me word it better...

[Joey Russ 7,227]

5 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

Clearly phrased that wrong, but I’m not sure how else to word it. Maybe you can help me word it better...

Oh wait, I think I know how. Sorry for anyone who thought that I meant that researchers don’t do it as a hobby. 

[Toast 16,140]

The 'casual type' of contestant are people who probably only think about deadpooling once or twice a year.

[alt obits guy 3,371]

2 hours ago, Joey Russ said:

That's true of any dead pool nowadays. Imo, there are three main types of dead poolers in almost any pool. The first type is the casual type, which are people who just put in old actors or people they really want to die (with the latter being something I'm not a fan of at all). They tend to score low, but they don't really care if they lose or not cause they're just doing it for fun. The second type of dead poolers, which I think is a little absent in alt obits since they don't reveal any names until they're hits, are the ones that mix in picks that casual players choose along with some public ill names that received lots of coverage. They tend to score within the middle of the dead pooling table. Picks that I think the second type might pick this year include John McCain, Olivia Newton-John, Linda Nolan, and Leah Bracknell. Maybe Stefan Karl, Liam Miller, or Greg Gilbert, but that's about it. Then the third type are the competitors who try for gold. Those are the ones who do a lot of research for ill picks in order to pick out names in order to try and win gold, and they try to pick younger folk for the DDP in order to gain more points. It is this type of dead pooler that will almost always win any competition nowadays due to how the art of dead pooling evolve. It's just seeing which of the researchers in dead pooling that would win...

The AO Deadpool has one person who only picks despots.  They may get a couple of hits a year but I guess their conscience is clear with their selections.  Otherwise, yes, many people only pick old actors and other elderly sorts while a select few tend to mostly include people who've received a serious diagnosis.  Some probably do throw a couple of better-known personalities.  All the names you mentioned above are familiar to me and were considered for my 2018 list. Within the second group, there are those who make the extra effort to find the hidden ailing.  I've seen many hits for people who I'd never heard and who I didn't come across in my preparations...and I do make the effort.  These forums are both a blessing and a curse in that they can offer up good suggestions while lessening the likelihood of solos, as I found out in 2017.   I'm cool with the lists not being revealed.  I see that's the exception, not the rule, as far as deadpools go.          

[alt obits guy 3,371]

5 hours ago, Toast said:

I still don't understand their problem with Marieke Vervoort.  They exclude (and I quote)

 

* People who are only noteworthy for their cause of (impending) death. Read: no cancer-bloggers, no local weathermen with brain tumors, no Paralympians with degenerative muscle diseases, etc

 

But MV is not "only noteworthy for (her) cause of (impending) death".  Or do they not consider gold medal winning Paralympians "noteworthy"? 

Surely they are no less worthy than their Olympian equivalents?  If she hadn't won anything, I'd understand why she's not accepted.  But she has.

Inherently, I've found there's a certain amount of subjectivity with the decisions as to who hits the acceptance threshold for the AO Deadpool.  I guess it's unavoidable.  There is an argument to be made for Vervoort because she was a gold medal Paralympian but, given the distinctly lesser popularity of the Paralympics vs the Olympics, it was decided she didn't meet that threshold.  Even being an Olympian is actually no guarantee.  One of the 2018 picks I submitted and that was rejected, Ian Lariba, was an Olympic table tennis player from the Philippines.  She was at the 2016 games.  Just not famous enough.   

[Joey Russ 7,227]

Well, obviously the likelihood of solos will decrease especially starting next year cause I suspect more forumites will participate in this next year. As for potential solos from my own team, here's what I think the likelihood is from picks not chosen by anyone else that publicly stated their teams (as well as some thoughts on their current health for some of them):

1. John Cocks - I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's a solo. There might be a chance because his case goes a while back, but I doubt it since research is something I presume some people do all year round. 
2. Tim Curley - Might be a solo. Probably a fraud though, so it probably doesn't matter anyways with him.
3. Fu Da-Ren - I do hope he's a solo, but of course, I'm not 100 percent certain on that.
4. Christy Dignam - No chance. Probably too much of an overexagerator anyways, though he did say his most recent album would be his final one. 
5. Oliver Dragojevic - I'll be pleased if this cultural icon from another country that usually isn't mentioned a lot is a solo. Currently doing well against cancer, but there's always the chance of relapse
6. Stuart Fraser - I don't expect him to be a solo, but will be pleased if he turns out to be a solo. Interesting name as well
7. Steffan Lewis - Well, it didn't go through for msc but it did for me, so I'm confused over his solo chance. Though if gcreptile is right about him not going through as a blessing in disguise, it would have been a wasted pick. 
8. Nobuhiko Obayashi - Very interesting name. He might be a solo, though I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a solo.
9. Tommy Raudonikis - No chance imo. I suspect a few other people picked him since he was easy to find.
10. Holly Rowe - I think it's likely, but once again, no guarantee. Doing alright in her battle with cancer as well, but that probably means nothing this early on.
11. Mark E Smith - No chance. I suspect he'll be picked on 4 - 5 teams.
12. David Thomas - A bit undergroundish, so it could be likely. Once again, no guarantee.
13. Rose West - No chance. Probably a fraud as well, though I wouldn't be mad if she's a hit.

 

[alt obits guy 3,371]

21 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

Well, obviously the likelihood of solos will decrease especially starting next year cause I suspect more forumites will participate in this next year. As for potential solos from my own team, here's what I think the likelihood is from picks not chosen by anyone else that publicly stated their teams (as well as some thoughts on their current health for some of them):

1. John Cocks - I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's a solo. There might be a chance because his case goes a while back, but I doubt it since research is something I presume some people do all year round. 
2. Tim Curley - Might be a solo. Probably a fraud though, so it probably doesn't matter anyways with him.
3. Fu Da-Ren - I do hope he's a solo, but of course, I'm not 100 percent certain on that.
4. Christy Dignam - No chance. Probably too much of an overexagerator anyways, though he did say his most recent album would be his final one. 
5. Oliver Dragojevic - I'll be pleased if this cultural icon from another country that usually isn't mentioned a lot is a solo. Currently doing well against cancer, but there's always the chance of relapse
6. Stuart Fraser - I don't expect him to be a solo, but will be pleased if he turns out to be a solo. Interesting name as well
7. Steffan Lewis - Well, it didn't go through for msc but it did for me, so I'm confused over his solo chance. Though if gcreptile is right about him not going through as a blessing in disguise, it would have been a wasted pick. 
8. Nobuhiko Obayashi - Very interesting name. He might be a solo, though I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a solo.
9. Tommy Raudonikis - No chance imo. I suspect a few other people picked him since he was easy to find.
10. Holly Rowe - I think it's likely, but once again, no guarantee. Doing alright in her battle with cancer as well, but that probably means nothing this early on.
11. Mark E Smith - No chance. I suspect he'll be picked on 4 - 5 teams.
12. David Thomas - A bit undergroundish, so it could be likely. Once again, no guarantee.
13. Rose West - No chance. Probably a fraud as well, though I wouldn't be mad if she's a hit.

In this case, many of these names are familiar to me, but a few were off my radar.  I will say at least one made my final list, a carryover from last year.  Others...maybe, maybe not.    As for my own possibility of solos, one is Canadian and just not much in the news.  Another will likely require a foreign language obituary.  Most of the rest on my list have probably been selected by a few people, but there may be a couple who slipped in unnoticed.  Suffice it to say, John McCain will not score any bonus points.

[Joey Russ 7,227]

I actually didn't pick McCain for that reason. I thought the five points with no bonus chance wasn't worth it. I wanted to try and aim for higher points, so that was goodbye to McCain, Rae, and a few others. I also didn't pick anyone over 90 cause I didn't want to risk getting only 2 points even if they had bonus potential, so that was goodbye to T Boone Pickens. As for the potential carryover, I think I can pare it down to two names, but I'll leave it at that...

[alt obits guy 3,371]

6 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

I actually didn't pick McCain for that reason. I thought the five points with no bonus chance wasn't worth it. I wanted to try and aim for higher points, so that was goodbye to McCain, Rae, and a few others. I also didn't pick anyone over 90 cause I didn't want to risk getting only 2 points even if they had bonus potential, so that was goodbye to T Boone Pickens. As for the potential carryover, I think I can pare it down to two names, but I'll leave it at that...

Understandable.  My oldest in the 2018 pool is 89 and I do tend to avoid nonagenarians & centenarians.  Before superlatives (oldest, tallest, etc.) were disqualified as picks, I'd frequently choose the oldest living person at the time. Gave me a solo at the beginning of one year, where I led the Deadpool with 1 point (no bonus points for supercentenarians then) for a couple of days.    I made an exception last year for Mario Soares, given his comatose state.  

[Joey Russ 7,227]

Any chance you chose Kevin Carr? I knew about him but his articles looked way too FFBI-esque, so I didn’t want to risk him...

[alt obits guy 3,371]

17 minutes ago, Joey Russ said:

Any chance you chose Kevin Carr? I knew about him but his articles looked way too FFBI-esque, so I didn’t want to risk him...

No, I don't have him.  Can't say he came across my research last year.

[Joey Russ 7,227]

Alright, I'm sure a lot of people are planning on playing in 2019, and I'm sure a lot of you are wondering what people could potentially be eligible picks. Well, I have gathered every pick that Gerard Tierney have successfully scored in the list down below, so that might help you get a better idea on who might be good picks in the future (obviously no one on the list would be a good pick since they're dead, but more on what type of picks might be good). So here's the long list:

Spoiler

1. Jose Alencar
2. Abdelbaset al-Megrahi
3. John Andretti 
4. Rene Angelil
5. Frankie Banali
6. Frank Bender
7. Bob Benmosche
8. Jana Bennett
9. Daisy Berkowitz
10. Nusrat Bhutto
11. Tom Billington 
12. Russell Bishop
13. Jeff Blackshear 
14. Kathleen Blanco
15. Rebecca Blank
16. Jack Body
17. Stefano Borgonovo
18. Pat Bowlen
19. Leah Bracknell
20. Charles Bradley
21. Ian Brady
22. Asa Branca 
23. Bonnie Brown
24. Henry Butler
25. Rob Burrow
26. Steve Byrnes
27. Matt Cappotelli 
28. Henry Cecil
29. Nick Charles
30. Hugo Chavez
31. Claude Choules
32. Errol Christie
33. Van Cliburn
34. John Cocks
35. Jonathan Coleman
36. Ray Columbus
37. Martin Crowe
38. Michael Cullen
39. Peter Maxwell Davies
40. Tom Davis
41. Gary DeCarlo
42. Clive Derby-Lewis
43. Paul Dewar
44. Tony Dipardo
45. Jenny Diski
46. Shannen Doherty
47. Jean Dore
48. Gord Downie
49. Randy Duncan
50. Judy Dyble
51. Robert G Edwards
52. Bob Ellis
53. LeRoy Ellis
54. Peter Esterhazy
55. Chuck Fairbanks
56. Sally Farmiloe
57. Maulana Fazlullah 
58. Joey Feek
59. Lewis Feild
60. Denny Fitch
61. Kim Fowley
62. Bonnie Franklin
63. Menachem Froman
64. Phil Gartside
65. Shankar Ghosh
66. Robin Gibb
67. Ahmad (Real) Givens
68. Goose Gonsoulin
69. Henry Gray 
70. Dale “Buffin” Griffin
71. Michael Gross
72. Goran Hadzic
73. Mark Hatfield
74. Philip Hannan
75. Damon Harris
76. Smith Hart
77. Bob Hawke
78. Genaro Hernandez
79. Nick Hitchon
80. Fred Ho
81. Harley Hotchkiss
82. Geoffrey Hughes
83. Dmitri Hvorostovsky
84. Johnnie Irwin
85. Ina Jaffe
86. Clive James
87. Etta James
88. Bill Janklow
89. Sandy Jardine
90. Mose Jefferson
91. Rebecca Jones
92. Jose Jose
93. Arfa Karim (why was she allowed?)
94. Max Keeping
95. Helen Kelly
96. Lee Kerslake
97. Rashid Khan
98. Ralph Klein
99. Sasha Lakovic
100. Bruce Langhorne
101. Steve LaTourette
102. Scott LeDoux
103. Devin Lima
104. Joan Lind
105. Floyd Little
106. Charlie Louvin
107. Eric Lubbock
108. Ted Mack
109. Spanky Manikan
110. Roy Marble
111. Howard Marks
112. Hugh Masekela 
113. Inez McCormack
114. Sandy McDonald
115. Frank McGarvey
116. Michael McKevitt
117. Liam Miller
118. Nolan Miller
119. Karen Muir
120. Bryan Murray
121. Dikembe Mutumbo
122. Doc Neeson
123. Catherine Nevin
124. Bernie Nolan
125. Wubbo Ockels 
126. Ronan O’Rahily
127. Jack Pardee
128. Tom Parker
129. Manohar Parrikar
130. J.P. Patches
131. George Perez
132. LG Petrov
133. Larry Pickering 
134. Mark Pilgrim
135. Louise Plowright
136. Mike Porcaro
137. Gregory Powell
138. Reg Presley
139. Ray Price
140. Ted Prior
141. Jack Ramsay
142. Julia Reichert
143. Paul Revere
144. Albert Reynolds
145. Henri Richard 
146. Fernando Ricksen 
147. Fred Rister 
148. Michael Robinson
149. Lorena Rojas
150. Johnny Ruffo
151. Qaboos bin Said al Said
152. Frank Sanders
153. Yoo Sang-chul
154. Malam Bacai Sanha
155. William Donald Schaefer
156. Edith Schaeffer
157. Jock Scot
158. Stuart Scott
159. Mutulu Shakur
160. Yitzhak Shamir
161. Luton Shelton
162. Tony Sheridan
163. Sam Simon
164. Peter Skellern
165. Jerry Sloan
166. Howard Smith
167. Steve Smith
168. Tom Smith
169. Jimmy Snuka
170. Michael Soles
171. Stefan Karl Stefansson
172. Dave Strader
173. Jim Stynes
174. Steve Sumner
175. Doug Supernaw
176. Ian Taylor
177. Roy Taylor
178. Orlando Thomas
179. Peter Tobin
180. Isabel Torres
181. Morgan Tsvangirai 
182. Jean-Claude Turcotte
183. Bill Turnbull
184. Steve Van Buren
185. Joost van der Westhuizen
186. Gianluca Vialli
187. Roger Vinson
188. Dwayne Washington
189. Carl Webb
190. Michael Weiner
191. Doddie Weir
192. Kevin White
193. William White
194. Mike Willesee 
195. Michael Winner
196. Franz Wright
197. Rayfield Wright
198. Robert Yates
199. Mae Young
200. Malcolm Young
201. Zhuang Zedong

There's one pick that's questionable (and if you look them up, you'll see why), but they are very much a rarity. But anyhow, I thought I would share this with you guys who might want some ideas for this pool in 2019...

[alt obits guy 3,371]

On 1/14/2018 at 07:51, drol said:

I has Dennis Stamp. An IBTimes obit was not enough apparently and that made me a bit angry. Anyway welcome to this forum, mr. Kirshner.

 

Thank you for the welcome.  Yes, I also sent the IBTimes obituary and ones from canoe.com, the Fight Network, various newspapers and even one from a Japanese website.  Some were full length obits, others shortened.  No combination proved sufficient to be the qualifying obituary.  In literally less than a minute from my posting this, the 2017 year will officially be closed.  

[Joey Russ 7,227]

Aye, I think we can officially congratulate @JiroemonKimura for ending the five year streak of Gerard Tierney. Bit of a shame he’s not competing this year though...

[Death Impends 7,976]

Well done to our Jiroemon!

[msc 18,472]

Yes, well done Jiroemon!

[alt obits guy 3,371]

Congratulations to Jiroemon Kimura / Cancerous Hatred for his 2017 win.

[Toast 16,140]

Yes, well done Jiroemon 

 

Hope to see you back soon.

[Joey Russ 7,227]

A lot of us probably had Cryne. No bonus for anyone, but I think me, Kirshner, and Gerard will be joint first now...