Deathray 2,940 Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Windsor said: You forget we live in the age of the nutters. It will transpire that when he was at university he dressed up as Hitler in blackface. Don’t forget he’s also a knight of the realm which probably means he’s too much of an establishment figure. Going by the tone of your post you'd class me as a nutter (I voted in Jeremy Corbyn's favour in the 2015 leadership race, 2016 leadership race, 2017 and election, 2019 election.....), I and many of my fellow nutters will be throwing our weight behind the one man who can actually beat Boris at the next election..... Kier Starmer - pragmatism over purity. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Going by the tone of your post you'd class me as a nutter (I voted in Jeremy Corbyn's favour in the 2015 leadership race, 2016 leadership race, 2017 and election, 2019 election.....), I and many of my fellow nutters will be throwing our weight behind the one man who can actually beat Boris at the next election..... Kier Starmer - pragmatism over purity. I left the Labour Party when Corbyn was elected leader the second time. If Keir Starmer is elected leader I may consider a return...if they convince me they can deal with the SNP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Windsor said: I left the Labour Party when Corbyn was elected leader the second time. If Keir Starmer is elected leader I may consider a return...if they convince me they can deal with the SNP. Surely your better off returning now to help vote him in? There's tens of thousands like you - that could end up being the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Kinnock said: Surely your better off returning now to help vote him in? There's tens of thousands like you - that could end up being the difference. I will let the Party decide. Then I will decide if I can stomach it. Besides, my priority is seeing the end of the SNP up here. My constituency is one of the few which booted them out in 2017 and kept them out in 2019 and it didn’t involve the Labour Party... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted January 4, 2020 Lammy rules himself out. As good a leader as I think he’d be, it’d have been an uphill struggle winning support in the North; he’s only really widely known about within a 30 mile radius of London. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 4 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said: Lammy rules himself out. As good a leader as I think he’d be, it’d have been an uphill struggle winning support in the North; he’s only really widely known about within a 30 mile radius of London. Can you put me in touch with your dealer? That's some fucking good stuff your on mate! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted January 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Can you put me in touch with your dealer? That's some fucking good stuff your on mate! You're* objections? *To balance out the erroneous 'your' in your post. Bit dickheaded but it's a pet hate of mine. Fight me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: You're* objections? *To balance out the erroneous 'your' in your post. Bit dickheaded but it's a pet hate of mine. Fight me. Does he's an odious cunt count? London centric, really remaining.... hypocrite, tosser would alienate any north of Watford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Does he's an odious cunt count? London centric, really remaining.... hypocrite, tosser would alienate any north of Watford. I'm not sure he's any more hypocritical or odious than, say, the average Labour politician (which, in turn, is less than the average LD/CON politician). Just because we're leaving the EU, doesn't necessarily mean the next Labour leader has to like it. Starmer's an ardent Remainer, too. I think he knows he's not electable enough at this time to bother standing. Once Labour is out of the gutter, maybe. But that could be years and years away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, The Quim Reaper said: I'm not sure he's any more hypocritical or odious than, say, the average Labour politician (which, in turn, is less than the average LD/CON politician). Just because we're leaving the EU, doesn't necessarily mean the next Labour leader has to like it. Starmer's an ardent Remainer, too. I think he knows he's not electable enough at this time to bother standing. Once Labour is out of the gutter, maybe. But that could be years and years away. Even if Labour gets itself out of the gutter, Lammy is exactly the kind of nutter who'll get us back in it. He refers to himself in the third person for fuck sake..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted January 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Even if Labour gets itself out of the gutter, Lammy is exactly the kind of nutter who'll get us back in it. He refers to himself in the third person for fuck sake..... I know an elected President of the United States who refers to himself in the third person... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Windsor said: I know an elected President of the United States who refers to himself in the third person... Doesn't make it any less of a cunty thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted January 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Even if Labour gets itself out of the gutter, Lammy is exactly the kind of nutter who'll get us back in it. He refers to himself in the third person for fuck sake..... Whilst I absolutely agree that only absolute cunts do third person talk, I haven’t seen Lammy do it yet...I’m ready to be stand corrected though? Either way, this is all immaterial; Lammy will always remain a nice (subject to opinion) idea, and nothing more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Middle ground: David Lammy comes across as a cheery, well meaning chap whose slip ups seem to come from an overly passionate want to try and help people. That said, he ain't leader material at all. PS Barring Boris Johnson getting feared, Brexit happens in 27 days time. The next election is in 2024. I don't see the Remain/Leave position of a party leader mattering a jot at that time, unless Brexit has really fucked up things badly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, The Quim Reaper said: Whilst I absolutely agree that only absolute cunts do third person talk, I haven’t seen Lammy do it yet...I’m ready to be stand corrected though? Either way, this is all immaterial; Lammy will always remain a nice (subject to opinion) idea, and nothing more than that. Watch his interview with Alistair Campbell you'll find a million other reasons to hate him as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Kinnock said: Going by the tone of your post you'd class me as a nutter (I voted in Jeremy Corbyn's favour in the 2015 leadership race, 2016 leadership race, 2017 and election, 2019 election.....), I and many of my fellow nutters will be throwing our weight behind the one man who can actually beat Boris at the next election..... Kier Starmer - pragmatism over purity. If you REALLY think that massive prick will be enough to get Labour first past the post in the next election then you have learned absolutely NOTHING from the utter drubbing the party got at the last one, NOTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lord Fellatio Nelson said: If you REALLY think that massive prick will be enough to get Labour first past the post in the next election then you have learned absolutely NOTHING from the utter drubbing the party got at the last one, NOTHING. Well short of electing a racist cunt who appeals to people only vote Labour cos there parents did, what do you suggest? Everyone else in the running is a left wing nutter or incompetent. And we don't need to won we need to win just do well enough to stop the Tories forming a government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kinnock said: Well short of electing a racist cunt who appeals to people only vote Labour cos there parents did, what do you suggest? Everyone else in the running is a left wing nutter or incompetent. And we don't need to won we need to win just do well enough to stop the Tories forming a government. I suggest, as a last resort, that they get on bended knees and ask Alan Johnson to step in, even as an interim leader to take the party forwards. He is a PROPER socialist, you must have seen his rant on election night, devastating stuff. I cannot for the life of me understand where the idea that any fucker that was happy to serve under CorbynCunt is remotely electable with people OUTSIDE of London. I tell you now, if Starmer gets the gig you are even more fucked than you were with CorbynCunt. You know my feelings on the Labour party but, Christ, we NEED a credible opposition to keep the government in check and, by the look of it, that will not happen for a very long time unless the extremist 'We march on Downing St within 24hrs of the Election result, waving our Socialist worker sponsored placards vowing resistance' element is fucked off into the blue yonder. Again, the march was London Centric. The rest of the country got the measure of Corbyn, momentum and all it really stood for and didn't like it. That is a major, not a complete, part of why you lost so HEAVILY. Do the maths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msc 18,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Alan Johnson was offered the leadership on a plate at least twice, once in far better circumstances than now (2014), and ran a mile. He was handed the leadership of the Labour Remain campaign in 2015 by Hariet Harman when she was Acting Labour Leader and full of her I Know Better than Everyone Mode, and he then made 14 public appearances during the referendum campaign compared to Boris Johnsons 300 odd. He really can't be arsed at anything approaching actual leadership. (Also he's not an MP but the other point is more pertinent...) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, msc said: Alan Johnson was offered the leadership on a plate at least twice, once in far better circumstances than now (2014), and ran a mile. He was handed the leadership of the Labour Remain campaign in 2015 by Hariet Harman when she was Acting Labour Leader and full of her I Know Better than Everyone Mode, and he then made 14 public appearances during the referendum campaign compared to Boris Johnsons 300 odd. He really can't be arsed at anything approaching actual leadership. (Also he's not an MP but the other point is more pertinent...) Fair comment fella. There would still be a need to find somebody of his ilk in order to change things, there is no doubts whatsoever that either Momentum fucks off or the party splits because it does not appear that the current leadership want to moderate or change course to a more 'Johnsonesque' type of political ideology or summat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,400 Posted January 4, 2020 A massive prick has joined the leadership contest. Anyone who supports him has learned absolutely NOTHING. FUCKING CUNT. IN CAPITALS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Fellatio Nelson 6,219 Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: A massive prick has joined the leadership contest. Anyone who supports him has learned absolutely NOTHING. FUCKING CUNT. IN CAPITALS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlotte's Controller 195 Posted January 4, 2020 I'm not entirely sure what relevance the leadership race has at the moment. Labour need policies, a sense of reality and a cohesive force to push things forward. This will not happen with negative career politicians whose sole aim is to milk the system take no responsibility and criticise any who do. We have to remember that most local services are labour mismanaged and yet criticism is aimed at central government. In many cases councils and government bring in expensive consultants who are poorly supervised and directed but must be overseen by even more expensive managers. This unfortunately is the best example of the Peter Principle. I think we need some middle ground with masters who have not been to public school and studied PPE at Oxbridge or their equivalent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathray 2,940 Posted January 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, The Quim Reaper said: A massive prick has joined the leadership contest. Anyone who supports him has learned absolutely NOTHING. FUCKING CUNT. IN CAPITALS. He's the best of bad lot unless John McDonnell u-turns and stands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
