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A small bit of housekeeping to be done here.

 

Firstly, Clifford Rose is a hit for Bibliogryphon. I see that there are proper QOs for him now, but as gcreptile pointed out, we have very low standards around here, so the earlier fringey mentions would have been fine. 

Lots of points for Biblio to leap him/her up the table, from second last up to the dizzying heights of sixth last.

Bibliogryphon (380 points) 3 hits

[Clifford Rose, Mark Eden, Murray Walker]

 

However, even by the incredibly lax standards of this pool (we really will take just about anything), I can't accept what is out there for Val Bettin. 

There is this: Voice Actor Val Bettin Dies at 97 – The Animation Commendation

However that says that the only sources for his death are his Star Tiger page and his FindAGrave page, and that no news story has mentioned his passing. Not enough is my judgement. However I find it hard to believe that no-one else will pick up on it if he is actually dead. He wasn't a complete nobody by all accounts. But for now, the 6 points on offer will have to wait!

 

Meanwhile, a definitive date of death for Andrew McDonald is still eluding me. 

The Guardian helpfully published an obituary, without actually bothering to mention when he died: Andrew McDonald obituary | MPs' expenses | The Guardian

The Times also gave him the obit treatment, but it is behind a paywall Andrew McDonald obituary | Register | The Times

So for now, we must wait. 

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29 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said:

A small bit of housekeeping to be done here.

 

Firstly, Clifford Rose is a hit for Bibliogryphon. I see that there are proper QOs for him now, but as gcreptile pointed out, we have very low standards around here, so the earlier fringey mentions would have been fine. 

Lots of points for Biblio to leap him/her up the table, from second last up to the dizzying heights of sixth last.

Bibliogryphon (380 points) 3 hits

[Clifford Rose, Mark Eden, Murray Walker]

 

However, even by the incredibly lax standards of this pool (we really will take just about anything), I can't accept what is out there for Val Bettin. 

There is this: Voice Actor Val Bettin Dies at 97 – The Animation Commendation

However that says that the only sources for his death are his Star Tiger page and his FindAGrave page, and that no news story has mentioned his passing. Not enough is my judgement. However I find it hard to believe that no-one else will pick up on it if he is actually dead. He wasn't a complete nobody by all accounts. But for now, the 6 points on offer will have to wait!

 

Meanwhile, a definitive date of death for Andrew McDonald is still eluding me. 

The Guardian helpfully published an obituary, without actually bothering to mention when he died: Andrew McDonald obituary | MPs' expenses | The Guardian

The Times also gave him the obit treatment, but it is behind a paywall Andrew McDonald obituary | Register | The Times

So for now, we must wait. 

 

Just for the record I am HIM

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30 minutes ago, An Fear Beag said:

 

 

Meanwhile, a definitive date of death for Andrew McDonald is still eluding me. 

The Guardian helpfully published an obituary, without actually bothering to mention when he died: Andrew McDonald obituary | MPs' expenses | The Guardian

The Times also gave him the obit treatment, but it is behind a paywall Andrew McDonald obituary | Register | The Times

So for now, we must wait. 

 

28th October 2021, due to complications of Parkinsons and cancer, apparently. That's why my low level Times account is for, clearly, checking obit dates! :lol:

 

Can't help on Bettin, though he was one of the main roles in one of the biggest kids films in my childhood - The Great Mouse Detective, oft repeated on TV at the time - so I am stunned there hasn't been a single reference anywhere of note.

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18 minutes ago, Bibliogryphon said:

 

Just for the record I am HIM

 

Today, perhaps. Tomorrow you might feel differently. It is safer to stay non-committal on the pronouns!

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Many thanks to msc for tying up the Andrew McDonald loose end .

 

300 valuable points to gcreptile to shoot up to 4th place in the standings. For the record here are your leaders:

 

Drol (2084 points) 13 hits

[Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1563 points) 9 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

En Passant (1535 points) 12 hits

[Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Dai Davies*, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Orlando Drummond, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding]

GcReptile (1453 points) 12 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Andrew McDonald, Anne Buydens, Donna Britt, Jory Post, Josh Evans, Gerd Muller, Leila Meecham, Mike Miller, Rodion Rosca, Sarena Li, Yoo Sang-Chul]

 

That still leaves GCreptile more than two hits from the leader, but that will drop down to below two in 2 days time. It might only take one hit as GC still has the joker to play - none other than gay porn star Jessie Colter. 

I will leave it up to you to inform me if Jessie snuffs it in the next two months. I am not googling "Jessie Colter gay porn" again!

Although if my wife accepts my deathlist activity, then anything is probably fair game!

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I think its about time for a full update, since we haven't had one since September 29th, although there have been mini-updates along the way.

The list of deceased since 29th September are as follows:

 

19th September - Leila Meecham

30th September - Greg Gilbert

3rd October - Bernard Tapie

10th October - Ruthie Thompson

26th October - Mort Sahl

28th October - Andrew McDonald

28th October - Florence Alice Lubega

1st November - Aaron T Beck

6th November - Clifford Rose

15th October - Clarissa Eden

16th October  - Belinda Sykes

 

Clarissa Eden's death earlier this week shook up the top of the leaderboard, as she was a hit for 4 players, most notably Death Impends who vaulted up into second place, behind runaway leader Drol.

That second place was short lived however, as the following day brought the passing of Belinda Sykes. One player had the inspired strategy earlier this year of forgetting to nominate a wildcard, ensuring that Sykes became their wildcard by default,  and thus netting a bucketload of points (better to be lucky than good!). That player was none other than yours truly, who took a giant leap out of the pack into second place, and seemingly only one pick from the lead (how can Bob Dole and Leslie Phillips BOTH be still alive at this stage - seriously?)

 

I say "seemingly" one pick away, because when updating the pool this morning I discovered that Florence Alice Lubega died on 28th October, thus giving yet another hit to the leader Drol, who sprints off into the distance again. Damn you Drol - just as i was starting to believe!

 

Meanwhile Val Bettin's death in January continues to go unnoticed by everyone except autograph hunters and grave-watchers. I am in two minds about whether one of those should count, as the rules of this game do refer to specialised websites, so I'll defer a decision to see if something else shows up. Surely someone has to notice that he is gone!

 

Usually story at the bottom!

 

Drol (2384 points) 14 hits

[Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

An Fear Beag (1768 points) 9 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

Death Impends (1601 points) 12 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Carl J. Shapiro, Clarissa Eden, Ian St. John, Jimmy Greaves, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Norman Lloyd, Raymond Cauchetier, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, S.Prestley Blake, Tom Moore*]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1563 points) 9 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

En Passant (1535 points) 12 hits

[Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Dai Davies*, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Orlando Drummond, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding]

GcReptile (1453 points) 12 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Andrew McDonald, Anne Buydens, Donna Britt, Jory Post, Josh Evans, Gerd Muller, Leila Meecham, Mike Miller, Rodion Rosca, Sarena Li, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Eesti (1416 points) 10 hits

[Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Leon Spinks, Noel Conway, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

The Quim Reaper (1348 points) 12 hits

[Anne Buydens, Carlos Menem, Clarissa Eden, Dai Davies, Dilip Kumar, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Wormfarmer (1278 points) 8 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Bill Freehan, Dilip Kumar, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Tommy Lasorda, Yoo Sang Chul]

Markb4 (1247 points) 8 hits

[Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Mort Sahl, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Ruthie Tompson]

ZZZ (1222 points) 10 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Charles De Gaulle (1205 points) 8 hits

[Bernard Tapie*, Carlos Menem, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding, Walter Bernstein]

Msc (1146 points) 7 hits

[Aaron Beck, Beverly Cleary*, Clarissa Eden, Hal Holbrook, Kenneth Kaunda, Murray Walker, Prince Philip]

Exu (1094 points) 8 hits

[Alan Burgess, Ernie Moss, Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Tom Moore, Sarah Harding]

Kenny (1036 points) 9 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Dai Davies, Gerd Muller, Kathy Shaidle, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Deadsox (991 points) 9 hits

[Dai Davies, Floyd Little*, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Robert Marchand, Rush Limbaugh, Ruth Apilado, Sarah Harding]

Captain Chorizo (985 points) 6 hits

[Anne Buydens*, Dominic DeNucci, Jeanne Bot, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rosita Quintana, Vassos Lyssarides]

Grim Up North (970 points) 10 hits

[Dai Davies, Lee Noble, Leon Spinks , Michael Cullen, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Susan Bayh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Chilean Way (922 points) 8 hits

[Carlos Menem, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip*, Rush Limbaugh]

CalebH (912 points) 6 hits

[Andre Maranne, Gerd Muller, Gloria Henry, Johnny Ventura, Rodion Rosca, Sarah Harding]

Lynchian (868 points) 6 hits

[Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

Torva Messor (782 points) 8 hits

[Andre Maranne, Brian Urquart, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Walter Bernstein]

Great Uncle Bulgaria (776 points) 5 hits

[Amy Winifred Hawkins, Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Jimmy Greaves, Tom Moore*]

Joey Russ (764 points) 7 hits

[Bob Fass, Clarissa Eden, Larry King, Leon Spinks*, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sylvain Sylvain]

The Old Crem (759 points) 9 hits

[Carlos Menem, Dai Davies, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh , Sarah Harding]

Book (737 points) 5 hits

[Alfred Biolek, Cicely Tyson, Mikis Theodorakis, Neddy Smith, Peter Mark Richman]

Etib8 (729 points) 4 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Gerd Muller, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Whoaml (712 points) 6 hits

[Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Lester L Wolff, Murray Walker, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Guyfromfuture (709 points) 4 hits

[Biz Markie, Johnny Pierson, Kay Hawtrey, Sarah Harding,]

The Unknown Man (697 points) 7 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

The Old Lady (651 points) 7 hits

[Abdelazis Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Michael McKevitt, Rush Limbaugh*, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Nantonian (570 points) 6 hits

[Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Deathray (533 points) 4 hits

[Johnny Briggs, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

Death by Arsenic (499 points) 4 hits

[Andre Maranne, Jean-Pierre Adams, Leon Spinks, Vassos Lyssarides]

Liz (420 points) 6 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Cloris Leachman, Lester L Wolff, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Susan Bayh]

Buffalo Phil (386 points) 6 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh*, Tom Moore]

Predictor (384 points) 2 hit

[Mike Carter, Uno Loop]

Bibliogryphon (380 points) 3 hits

[Clifford Rose, Mark Eden, Murray Walker]

ImNotHades (378 points) 2 hits

[Jimmy Greaves, Michael Collins]

Pedro (315 points) 4 hits

[Christopher Plummer, Kenneth Kaunda, Phil Spector, Prince Philip]

Toast (199 point) 3 hits

[Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Trevor Peacock]

Ebless(191 points) 1 hit

[Ernie Moss]

Yorkshire Banker (0 points) 0 hit

 

 

 

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That's funny, Belinda Sykes might be the highest scoring hit ever, here.

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31 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

That's funny, Belinda Sykes might be the highest scoring hit ever, here.

 

Wasn't George HW Bush a joker hit a few years back?

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1 minute ago, Death Impends said:

 

Wasn't George HW Bush a joker hit a few years back?

 

He was, and he gave Sir Creep the record for the highest scoring pick (November 30th Joker/Wildcard) until last year when Markb4 chose Chuck Yeager as his joker. Yeager's death on December 7th is now the benchmark that everyone has to beat. 

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On 29/11/2021 at 15:40, Predictor said:

The lovely Doyle Hamm died on 28 November at the age of 64. This death will mark the start of the greatest comeback in Hares Death Pool history.

 

https://www.al.com/news/2021/11/alabama-death-row-inmate-who-survived-botched-execution-dies-of-natural-causes.html

That's the spirit Predictor. Never give up until the final whistle (unless you are the Latvian women's football team - in that case you can probably give up a little before then)

 

As the great General Melchett once said,  "if nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through" 

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There have been a couple of  big deaths (and Doyle Hamm) to shake up  the leaderboard a little, so time for another update I reckon. 

 

28th November - Frank Williams (Sir)

28th November - Doyle Hamm (not Sir)

29th November - David Gulpilil

 

I also note that the Disney Wiki page (whatever that is) is acknowledging the death of Val Bettin 

Val Bettin | Disney Wiki | Fandom

I realise that this is probably someone just copying and pasting from Wikipedia. However, given that the rules allow for specialised websites, and given that we have seen a picture of his actual fucking grave, I think we can take it that the man is genuinely dead. Therefore I am taking the decision to award the points. MarkB4 gains the princely total of 6 points, and moves up, eh, 6 points on the leaderboard!

 

Up at the business end, Etush, Eesti and Grim leap up into 3rd, 4th and 5th places respectively. I break the 2000 point barrier to consolidate my position in 2nd. However, the runaway leader continues to run away, with Drol's selection of David Gulpilil continuing the domination. One hit away from becoming only the second player ever to break the 3000 point barrier.

 

David Gulpilil's popularity as a pick (11 selections) meant that the ZZZ team of most popular picks jumped up the table, right? Well it would have done, had I not completely overlooked him when putting the team together:scratchhead:. Not to worry - we are all losers on this one. 

 

The real news, however, comes at the bottom of the table. Yorkshire Banker has finally put the spikes on, stubbed out the cigarette, and reluctantly joined the race. The Frank Williams pick immediately vaults them into 4th last place. Is it too late to see the greatest comeback since the one that Predictor is about to do?  

 

Here are the standings:

Drol (2716 points) 15 hits

[David Gulpilil. Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

An Fear Beag (2100 points) 10 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1895 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Eesti (1748 points) 11 hits

[Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Leon Spinks, Noel Conway, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Grim Up North (1633 points) 12 hits

[Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Frank Williams, Lee Noble, Leon Spinks , Michael Cullen, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Susan Bayh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Wormfarmer (1610 points) 9 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Bill Freehan, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Tommy Lasorda, Yoo Sang Chul]

Death Impends (1601 points) 12 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Carl J. Shapiro, Clarissa Eden, Ian St. John, Jimmy Greaves, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Norman Lloyd, Raymond Cauchetier, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, S.Prestley Blake, Tom Moore*]

Charles De Gaulle (1536 points) 9 hits

[Bernard Tapie*, Carlos Menem, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding, Walter Bernstein]

En Passant (1535 points) 12 hits

[Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Dai Davies*, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Orlando Drummond, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding]

GcReptile (1453 points) 12 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Andrew McDonald, Anne Buydens, Donna Britt, Jory Post, Josh Evans, Gerd Muller, Leila Meecham, Mike Miller, Rodion Rosca, Sarena Li, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Kenny (1368 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Gerd Muller, Kathy Shaidle, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

The Quim Reaper (1348 points) 12 hits

[Anne Buydens, Carlos Menem, Clarissa Eden, Dai Davies, Dilip Kumar, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Captain Chorizo (1317 points) 7 hits

[Anne Buydens*, David Gulpilil, Dominic DeNucci, Jeanne Bot, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rosita Quintana, Vassos Lyssarides]

Markb4 (1253 points) 9 hits

[Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Mort Sahl, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Ruthie Tompson, Val Bettin]

ZZZ (1222 points) 10 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Msc (1146 points) 7 hits

[Aaron Beck, Beverly Cleary*, Clarissa Eden, Hal Holbrook, Kenneth Kaunda, Murray Walker, Prince Philip]

Exu (1094 points) 8 hits

[Alan Burgess, Ernie Moss, Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Tom Moore, Sarah Harding]

Book (1068 points) 6 hits

[Alfred Biolek, Cicely Tyson, Frank Williams, Mikis Theodorakis, Neddy Smith, Peter Mark Richman]

The Unknown Man (1029 points) 8 hits

[Bernard Tapie, David Gulpilil, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Deadsox (991 points) 9 hits

[Dai Davies, Floyd Little*, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Robert Marchand, Rush Limbaugh, Ruth Apilado, Sarah Harding]

The Old Lady (983 points) 8 hits

[Abdelazis Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, David Gulpilil, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Michael McKevitt, Rush Limbaugh*, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Chilean Way (922 points) 8 hits

[Carlos Menem, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip*, Rush Limbaugh]

CalebH (912 points) 6 hits

[Andre Maranne, Gerd Muller, Gloria Henry, Johnny Ventura, Rodion Rosca, Sarah Harding]

Nantonian (902 points) 7 hits

[David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Lynchian (868 points) 6 hits

[Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

Death by Arsenic (830 points) 5 hits

[Andre Maranne, Frank Williams, Jean-Pierre Adams, Leon Spinks, Vassos Lyssarides]

Torva Messor (782 points) 8 hits

[Andre Maranne, Brian Urquart, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Walter Bernstein]

Great Uncle Bulgaria (776 points) 5 hits

[Amy Winifred Hawkins, Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Jimmy Greaves, Tom Moore*]

Joey Russ (764 points) 7 hits

[Bob Fass, Clarissa Eden, Larry King, Leon Spinks*, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sylvain Sylvain]

The Old Crem (759 points) 9 hits

[Carlos Menem, Dai Davies, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh , Sarah Harding]

Etib8 (729 points) 4 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Gerd Muller, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Predictor (715 points) 3 hits

[Doyle Hamm, Mike Carter, Uno Loop]

Whoaml (712 points) 6 hits

[Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Lester L Wolff, Murray Walker, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Guyfromfuture (709 points) 4 hits

[Biz Markie, Johnny Pierson, Kay Hawtrey, Sarah Harding,]

Deathray (533 points) 4 hits

[Johnny Briggs, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

Liz (420 points) 6 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Cloris Leachman, Lester L Wolff, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Susan Bayh]

Buffalo Phil (386 points) 6 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh*, Tom Moore]

Bibliogryphon (380 points) 3 hits

[Clifford Rose, Mark Eden, Murray Walker]

ImNotHades (378 points) 2 hits

[Jimmy Greaves, Michael Collins]

Yorkshire Banker (331 points) 1 hit

[Frank Williams]

Pedro (315 points) 4 hits

[Christopher Plummer, Kenneth Kaunda, Phil Spector, Prince Philip]

Toast (199 point) 3 hits

[Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Trevor Peacock]

Ebless(191 points) 1 hit

[Ernie Moss]

 

 

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6 hours ago, markb4 said:

Dole's a hit.

 

An Fear Beag certainly noticed that. An Fear Beag is quite happy about that because An Fear Beag had Bob Dole on his team. 

 

That hit closes the gap on the leader Drol to make it a one hit game, and with 12  potential outs , it is very much game on. However every time anyone has gotten close to Drol,  another hit has widened the gap again - will there be a repeat?

 

15 teams in total had Dole, with Wormfarmer and Charles de Gaulle entering the top 5 for the first time - but have they left it to late to mount a challenge? The top 5 is as follows:

 

Drol (2716 points) 15 hits

[David Gulpilil. Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

An Fear Beag (2438 points) 11 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

Wormfarmer (1948 points) 10 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Bill Freehan, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Tommy Lasorda, Yoo Sang Chul]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1895 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Charles De Gaulle (1874 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie*, Bob Dole, Carlos Menem, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding, Walter Bernstein]

 

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You know those annoying people who forget to tell game hosts someone on their teams has died? Yeah, well, doing some spring cleaning for the 2022 Hares Pool and apparently I picked former Wimbledon champ Budge Patty in this, 2021, variation. He died October 4th. 

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1 hour ago, msc said:

You know those annoying people who forget to tell game hosts someone on their teams has died? Yeah, well, doing some spring cleaning for the 2022 Hares Pool and apparently I picked former Wimbledon champ Budge Patty in this, 2021, variation. He died October 4th. 

 

No worries msc. I completely missed that one myself. Despite googling all the picks at the beginning of December, I seem to have missed the 200 odd  obits for Patty. I think I may have just googled the more obscure ones on the assumption that I would know if one of the more famous ones had died!

 

So 2 new names to add it the list:

4th October  - Budge Patty

9th December - Don Asmussen

 

Those two bring msc and gcreptile into the top 7 but still a long way off Drol's lead. However, Gcreptile is only one hit away from winning ..... provided Jessie Colter dies on 31st December. 

 

Drol (2716 points) 15 hits

[David Gulpilil. Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

An Fear Beag (2438 points) 11 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

Wormfarmer (1948 points) 10 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Bill Freehan, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Tommy Lasorda, Yoo Sang Chul]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1895 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Charles De Gaulle (1874 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie*, Bob Dole, Carlos Menem, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding, Walter Bernstein]

GcReptile (1795 points) 13 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Andrew McDonald, Anne Buydens, Don Asmussen, Donna Britt, Jory Post, Josh Evans, Gerd Muller, Leila Meecham, Mike Miller, Rodion Rosca, Sarena Li, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Msc (1760 points) 9 hits

[Aaron Beck, Beverly Cleary*, Bob Dole, Budge Patty, Clarissa Eden, Hal Holbrook, Kenneth Kaunda, Murray Walker, Prince Philip]

 

 

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Wow, this could be big. This could be very big indeed!!

 

US lawyer/politician Harry Reid has decided that he has seen enough of 2021 and has clocked out a few days early. He is a hit for two people in this pool.

 

One is Nantonian who scrapes into a tie for 10th.

 

The other is me :D :D:D and the huge points total for Reid sees me over-take the long-term leader Drol with only 3 days to go.

 

An Fear Beag (2799 points) 12 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Harry Reid, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

Drol (2716 points) 15 hits

[David Gulpilil. Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

 

Can Drol muster up one more hit from his list of crusty old world leaders, or can I hold out for 3 days to win my own competition, in true Fr. Ted style?

I think my screen time is going to shoot through the roof for the next 3 days as I check Drol's remaining picks every 5 minutes!

 

 

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4 hits is a good showing by my standards in this, especially as I had to submit before the rest of you. 

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Shit - Betty White is dead! ......

 

Rushes to the masterlist......

 

Three people had her .......

 

And relax - Drol wasn't one of them ;)

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The exact date of death is important now .......

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Before we put this pool to bed by announcing the winner (spoiler alert - it wasn't you :D) there is a small amount of house-keeping to be done. The following were the hits since the last proper updates. I have sifted through the list and checked all the names, so if I have missed anyone, the tough luck - your own fault for not highlighting your pick's demise.

 

28th November - Andrew Romanoff

30th November - Ray Kennedy

5th December - Bob Dole

19th December - Johnny Isaakson

19th December- Sally Anne Howes

26th December - Desmond Tutu

28th December - Harry Reid

31st December - Betty White

 

The final scoreboard will follow shortly............................

 

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A little later than expected, the ceremony can begin to formally announce the result of the 2021 Hares Pool. It was a low scoring year in general – not a great surprise given the large numbers of nailed-on corpses who somehow managed to survive 2021.

In 2020, 17 people broke the 2000 point barrier. In 2021, only 2 managed the feat. We had our first ever scoreless Joker hit, when Floyd Little bit the dust on January 1st. However, to balance it up, we also had what was (I think!) our first December 31st hit, when Betty White left us to give 3 players the 250 point bonus (henceforth known as the Betty Bonus).

 

 

At the end of the 365-day long slog, I am delighted to announce that the winner of the 2021 Hares Dead Poll is:reading-glasses:    …….AN FEAR BEAG  :champagne::champagne::clap::clap:

 

That’s right – its me!!  :P One of the rare examples of a player winning their own pool. It does happen occasionally you know. Further proof that Fr. Ted was not so much a sit-com, as a Nostradamus-like predictor of the future. Also proof that the old Hare-and-Tortoise moral that “slow and steady wins the race” is a load of old bollox. A late flurry and a quick spurt at the end (ooh-er missus!) is generally what is needed to do the job. December hits of Bob Dole and Harry Reid were enough to sneak me into the lead late on, and there was no time for a late comeback. Ultimately though, my win shows that dead-pooling (like life and death in general) usually comes down to good old-fashioned luck. Forgetting to nominate a Joker gave Belinda Sykes that position by default, and her death in November was the kick-start my team needed to get me within shooting distance of the top. (Insert cliches “You make your own luck” etc. etc.)

 

WINNER

An Fear Beag (2799 points) 12 hits

[Belinda Sykes*, Bernard Tapie, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Harry Reid, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Lilian Priest, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang Chul]

 

I therefore become the inaugural winner of the Deathray Memorial Cup, and am delighted to present myself with the award.

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(Yeah I know – it’s a mug, not a cup. Cut me some slack here- you try find a cup with Godzilla and a Deathray on it!!)

 

 

RUNNER-UP

 

Drol (2716 points) 15 hits

[David Gulpilil. Dilip Kumar*, Dovid Soloveitchic, Emmanuel Evans-Anfom, Ernie Moss, Florence Alice Lubega, Frank Worthington, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Mikis Theodorakis, Norman Lloyd, Ruthie Tompson, Toko Shinodam, Vittore Bochetta ]

 

In a very unlucky second place, comes Drol. Boasting a far more eclectic and interesting team than the winner (who was that again?), Drol took the lead on 7th July with the seemingly improbable death of joker Dilip Kumar, and held onto the lead until 3 days from the finish. Boasting most hits, he was ultimately undone by the lack of a December hit, so crucial in this game. The only hit in the last 2 months was David Gulpilil, who was also selected by the winner (did I mention that was me!) which allowed him to be pipped at the post.

 

THIRD PLACE

Wormfarmer (1948 points) 10 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Bill Freehan, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Tommy Lasorda, Yoo Sang Chul]

 

In a tight battle for the final podium position. Wormfarmer comes out on top, but a distance back from the top 2. Some good late hits brought them up from a fair bit back, but ultimately they were undone by  combination of not enough hits, and the lack of a Joker hit (usually a fatal flaw in this game).

 

THE CHASING PACK : over 1500

 

Last year this category was the over 2020 points club, which shows what a quiet year it was in general for dead-pooling. Not much separating this group, with Nantonian benefitting from Harry Reid’s demise to reach 4th place, and GcReptile finishing with the second-highest total of hits, but only finishing in 7th.

 

Nantonian (1932 points) 10 hits

[Andrew Romanoff, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Harry Reid,  Larry King, Leon Spinks, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Etushispushingupdaisies (1895 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Greg Gilbert, Lars Goran Petrov, Michael Cullen Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Charles De Gaulle (1874 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie*, Bob Dole, Carlos Menem, David Gulpilil, Dilip Kumar, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding, Walter Bernstein]

GcReptile (1795 points) 13 hits

[Alcee Hastings, Andrew McDonald, Anne Buydens, Don Asmussen, Donna Britt, Jory Post, Josh Evans, Gerd Muller, Leila Meecham, Mike Miller, Rodion Rosca, Sarena Li, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Msc (1760 points) 9 hits

[Aaron Beck, Beverly Cleary*, Bob Dole, Budge Patty, Clarissa Eden, Hal Holbrook, Kenneth Kaunda, Murray Walker, Prince Philip]

Eesti (1748 points) 12 hits

[Bill Freehan, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Greg Gilbert, Leon Spinks, Noel Conway, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang Chul]

Liz (1724 points) 9 hits

[Betty White, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Cloris Leachman, Johnny Isakson, Lester L Wolff, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Susan Bayh]

Etib8 (1681 points) 6 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Betty White, Bob Dole, Gerd Muller, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Grim Up North (1633 points) 12 hits

[Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Frank Williams, Lee Noble, Leon Spinks , Michael Cullen, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Susan Bayh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Death Impends (1601 points) 12 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Carl J. Shapiro, Clarissa Eden, Ian St. John, Jimmy Greaves, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Norman Lloyd, Raymond Cauchetier, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, S.Prestley Blake, Tom Moore*]

Markb4 (1591points) 10 hits

[Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Mort Sahl, Norman Lloyd, Renee Simonot, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Ruthie Tompson, Val Bettin]

ZZZ (1560 points) 11 hits

[Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

En Passant (1535 points) 12 hits

[Abdelaziz Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Carlos Menem, Dai Davies*, Dilip Kumar, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Orlando Drummond, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding]

 

The “MEH” Group

 

Exu (1427 points) 9 hits

[Alan Burgess, Ernie Moss, Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Ray Kennedy, Tom Moore, Sarah Harding]

Kenny (1368 points) 10 hits

[Bernard Tapie, Dai Davies, David Gulpilil, Gerd Muller, Kathy Shaidle, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Yoo Sang-Chul]

The Quim Reaper (1348 points) 12 hits

[Anne Buydens, Carlos Menem, Clarissa Eden, Dai Davies, Dilip Kumar, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Harding, Tom Moore]

Buffalo Phil (1338 points) 8 hits

[Betty White, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, Carlos Menem, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh*, Tom Moore]

Deadsox (1329 points) 10 hits

[Bob Dole, Dai Davies, Floyd Little*, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Robert Marchand, Rush Limbaugh, Ruth Apilado, Sarah Harding]

The Old Lady (1321 points) 9 hits

[Abdelazis Bouteflika, Beverly Cleary, Bob Dole, David Gulpilil, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Michael McKevitt, Rush Limbaugh*, Yoo Sang-Chul]

Captain Chorizo (1317 points) 7 hits

[Anne Buydens*, David Gulpilil, Dominic DeNucci, Jeanne Bot, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Rosita Quintana, Vassos Lyssarides]

CalebH (1264 points) 7 hits

[Andre Maranne, Gerd Muller, Gloria Henry, Johnny Ventura, Rodion Rosca, Sally Anne Howes, Sarah Harding]

Chilean Way (1260 points) 9 hits

[Bob Dole, Carlos Menem, Dilip Kumar, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip*, Rush Limbaugh]

Lynchian (1206 points) 7 hits

[Bob Dole, Gerd Muller, Jimmy Greaves, Leon Spinks, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

Great Uncle Bulgaria (1114 points) 6 hits

[Bob Dole, Amy Winifred Hawkins, Anne Buydens, Beverly Cleary, Jimmy Greaves, Tom Moore*]

Whoaml (1071 points) 7 hits

[Desmond Tutu, Jimmy Greaves, Larry King, Lester L Wolff, Murray Walker, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip]

Book (1068 points) 6 hits

[Alfred Biolek, Cicely Tyson, Frank Williams, Mikis Theodorakis, Neddy Smith, Peter Mark Richman]

The Unknown Man (1029 points) 8 hits

[Bernard Tapie, David Gulpilil, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Rush Limbaugh, Yoo Sang-Chul]

 

THE “COME ON – MAKE AN EFFORT” Group

 

Death by Arsenic (830 points) 5 hits

[Andre Maranne, Frank Williams, Jean-Pierre Adams, Leon Spinks, Vassos Lyssarides]

Torva Messor (782 points) 8 hits

[Andre Maranne, Brian Urquart, Lawrence Ferlinghetti, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Renee Simonot, Ruthie Tompson, Walter Bernstein]

Joey Russ (764 points) 7 hits

[Bob Fass, Clarissa Eden, Larry King, Leon Spinks*, Norman Lloyd, Paul Westphal, Prince Philip, Sylvain Sylvain]

The Old Crem (759 points) 9 hits

[Carlos Menem, Dai Davies, Floyd Little, Gerd Muller, Larry King, Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Rush Limbaugh , Sarah Harding]

ImNotHades (737 points) 3 hits

[Desmond Tutu, Jimmy Greaves, Michael Collins]

Predictor (715 points) 3 hits

[Doyle Hamm, Mike Carter, Uno Loop]

Guyfromfuture (709 points) 4 hits

[Biz Markie, Johnny Pierson, Kay Hawtrey, Sarah Harding,]

Pedro (674 points) 5 hits

[Christopher Plummer, Desmond Tutu, Kenneth Kaunda, Phil Spector, Prince Philip]

Ebless(550 points) 2 hits

[Desmond Tutu, Ernie Moss]

Deathray (533 points) 4 hits

[Johnny Briggs, Norman Lloyd, Prince Philip, Sarah Harding]

 

THE "YOU’RE TAKING THE PISS" Group

Bibliogryphon (380 points) 3 hits

[Clifford Rose, Mark Eden, Murray Walker]

Yorkshire Banker (331 points) 1 hit

[Frank Williams]

 

THE "WTF” Group

Toast (199 point) 3 hits

[Leon Spinks, Prince Philip, Trevor Peacock]

 

In last place, comes Toast with a mere 3 hits, and a record low of 66.33 points per hit. What is really amazing though, is that Toast actually had a really strong team. Somehow, Turnbull, Alagiah, Trintingant, Carter, Phillips, Nolan, Gorbachev, Newton-John, and Tom Smith ALL managed to survive the year. Effectively Toast submitted a full team of “how-the-fuck-are-they-still-alive” picks, and has paid the price with the last-place finish. Bad Luck Toast.

 

 

A few other mentions and awards:

 

THE "BEATEN BEFORE THE COMPETITION HAS PROPERLY STARTED" AWARD (formerly held by the England Ashes Squad)

 

DEADSOX

 

A Floyd Little hit on January 1st followed by Paul Westphal on January 2nd gave Deadsox the worst start in the history of this pool, leaving them 2 down for a solitary point after 2 days, and the Joker gone. Thankfully the middle order put up a bit of a fight (thus ending all comparisons to the Ashes squad) to leave Deadsox on 1329 at the close of play.

 

 

 

AWARD FOR MOST POINTS PER HIT (MIN 5 HITS): 

 

ETIB8. 6 hits 1681 points – the Betty Bonus played big here to give Etib8 an colossal 280.16 points per hit. If only they could have had a few more of them.

 

Second in this category was me at 233.25 points per hit (Did I mention,,,... oh right I did).

 

Also of note was Yorkshire Banker, who only managed 1 hit all year, but left it until November 28th to do so, giving 331 points for 1 measly hit.

 

AWARD FOR FEWEST POINTS PER HIT:

 

Officially Toast takes the award with 3 hits 199 points 66.33 points per hit.

 

However, I cannot allow a couple of other players go unmentioned

 

The Old Crem had 9 hits, 6 of them in January/February to finish on 759 points or 84.33 points per hit.

 

Joey Russ managed only 8 hits but that included the Joker to reach 764 points or 95.50 points per hit. A late Clarissa Eden hit was all that separated Joey form this dubious award.

 

 

 

So that’s all folks. Thanks to everyone for playing, and I will see you all over on the Hares 2022 thread, where we can soon start to laugh at all those who picked Gary Burgess in their 2022 teams.

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Well done AFB! And commiserations to drol for being Lusked.

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