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As we prepare to mourn Jimmy Carter's death on his birthday, let's have an update. I will be away for a few days over the next weekend, and the A-list names just keep on piling up.

 

But first of all, how about another arghton parade?

Yes, I am not done with noticing late obits. This time, it's Neophyte of Bulgaria who got an Independent obit many months ago. He was the patriarch of the Bulgarian orthodox church for more than a decade, and died in March after a longer period of ill health.

Next one is Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. arghton has excelled here at judging the world political situation and shines with another unique hit.

Then, it's Kenneth Cope, not an arghton unique hit, but also picked by him. A British acting veteran on the small screen, though also with a couple film roles. Especially notable for returning to Coronation Street after a 42 year absence. You need some real staying power to do that. He is a hit for 5 players.

Next up is Dikembe Mutombo, whose death is so fresh, the body is still cooling right now. He was one of the modern greats of basketball, and a very charitable person at that. BBC gave him an obit, which they don't do for every basketball player. Mutombo's specialization was defence, and some players forgot about their defence here, as the scoreboard will show.

As we walk back into the past, Kris Kristofferson is the next hit. He was the rugged, but friendly face of outlaw country. He was notable not just as a musician himself, but also as a songwriter for others. Plus, he also had a couple of acting gigs, most notably for me in the Blade series next to Wesley Snipes. He was a hit for three players.

Sod's Law and GreatUncleBulgaria score with Maggie Smith. The two-time Oscar winner also fell to the curse of becoming an actor "known for Harry Potter". But actually, her career was much more than that, one of the most distinguished actors of all, some would say. That video I linked to three weeks ago, that was a bad omen. Her death comes slightly surprising, but in her days, you didn't talk about your ill health.

Next A-Lister is (mainly) voice actor David Graham. Is it me or was he strangely popular here on this forum? Very few voice actors climb to A-list status. And I am not sure his roles were THAT big, but what can I say, I occasionally picked him myself. To me, he was like Kenneth Cope, I accept the A-list status assigned to him by the more knowledgable people here.

Finally, another A-Lister to score, Alberto Fujimori. The former president of Peru was a "controversial" figure in that you never knew if his reign meant the end of democracy in Peru or whether he was just one of those semi-dictators, like Erdogan. Well, democracy sort of survived, just like Fujimori, whose legacy was as spotty as his health turned out to be. 

EDIT: Noooooooooo, I forgot another A-lister, James Earl Jones, who died immediately after the previous update. Nowadays mostly remembered as a voice actor like David Graham. Especially for a "franchise role", like Maggie Smith. His "Peppa Pig" is "The Lion King". James Earl Jones has only gone in physical form, but he lives on as a digitized voice package.

 

chilean_way is currently waiting for an obit for Alexandre do Nascimento. Probably one of the bigger gambles...

Rupert Keegan is also awaiting an obit. And the fact that we are waiting has some implications for the scoreboard. Cpt.Chorizo keeps the lead thanks to David Graham, but Banana would lead with the Keegan obit. Also, I have Mutombo and almost make it back to the top. The trio at the top is also somewhat in pursuit by Book, wannamaker and others. Things are very much unsettled.

 

Rank Team Score
1 Cpt. Chorizo 1237
2 gcreptile 1217
3 Banana 1199
4 Book 1126
5 wannamaker 1102
6 RadGuy 1094
7 msc 1082
8 Funeralopolis 1025
9 Perhaps 1018
10 Summer in Transilvania 961
11 Salmon Mousse 950
12 Mr. Wonderful 879
13 Buffalo Phil 826
14 Toast 794
15 Torva Messor 785
16 The Immortal 759
17 Liz Lemon 749
18 An Fear Beag 731
19 The Unknown Man 730
20 tracy 701
21 Baby Blue 661
22 Pedro67 655
23 The old lady 633
24 Wormfarmer 624
25 Thatcher 620
26 Predictor 615
27 Death Impends 607
28 MariNisia 604
29 Etushipushingupdaisies 602
30 Cpt. Hemlock 583
31 DeathBecomesThem 540
32 Caleb H 537
33 Charles De Gaulle 519
34 ThereWillBeDeaths7 516
35 Lady Fiona 514
36 Imelda 511
37 The Old Crem 504
38 TQR 493
39 John Key 485
40 arghton 473
41 Sean 469
42 The Daredevil 437
43 Diego 429
44 Yorkshire Banker 404
45 Bibliogryphon 398
46 Annami 390
47 Young Willz 352
48 Great Uncle Bulgaria 279
49 Hell 240
50 chileanway 225
51 Sod's Law 168
52 Gooseberry Crumble 59
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 James Earl Jones ..... Nowadays mostly remembered as a voice actor like David Graham. Especially for a "franchise role", like Maggie Smith.

 

Sorry, but Maggie Smith is not mostly remembered for a "franchise role".  (I assume you mean Harry Potter.) 

She played a vast number of roles on stage, screen and TV, and is remembered for many of them.

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2 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Sorry, but Maggie Smith is not mostly remembered for a "franchise role".  (I assume you mean Harry Potter.) 

She played a vast number of roles on stage, screen and TV, and is remembered for many of them.

I was making fun of the obituaries that mostly call her that, it reminded me of when John Hurt died.

 

Otherwise, you may be right from your point of view, but even the BBC calls her "best known for the Harry Potter films and Downton Abbey":

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgk7375ngkxo

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42 minutes ago, gcreptile said:

I was making fun of the obituaries that mostly call her that, it reminded me of when John Hurt died.

 

Otherwise, you may be right from your point of view, but even the BBC calls her "best known for the Harry Potter films and Downton Abbey":

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgk7375ngkxo

 

The BBC is an embarrassment nowadays.  Anyone who only knows Maggie Smith for Harry Potter or Downton Abbey is barely out of their teens.

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29 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

The BBC is an embarrassment nowadays.  Anyone who only knows Maggie Smith for Harry Potter or Downton Abbey is barely out of their teens.

 

I've not seen any of her older work, but I adore her in Hook.

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20 hours ago, Toast said:

 

The BBC is an embarrassment nowadays.  Anyone who only knows Maggie Smith for Harry Potter or Downton Abbey is barely out of their teens.

 

To be fair, they said "best known" not "only known" and I would argue that in today's world that's accurate. I'm 49 and whilst I'm well aware of many of her other roles, for me she is definitely best known as Professor McGonagall.

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Cissy Houston.  I knew I'd got her somewhere.

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I got Lily Ebert. I get a massive 23 points, lol.

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Ethel Kennedy a hit for me.

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I got a hit with Janey Godley here.

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Got a hit with June Spencer.

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Okay..... I will be in the United States in the next two weeks and will be back on Dec 3rd. The 2025 thread will be opened after my return, please be patient.

 

So let's have an update before I leave! Once more, I try to catch all the names by mainly going back through time.

 

The most recent hit is Yuriko, the Princess Mikasa. A member of the japanese imperial house, she was one of the people who symbolize a 'last connection' to a different era. The last member of her generation, and the last member of the house to be born during the reign of Emperor Taisho. Perhaps and The Immortal score.

Next one is Timothy West, a unique (!) hit for Sod's Law. The almost unthinkable happened and he died before his dementia-ridden wife. Let's hope Prunella Scales' dementia is so far advanced she doesn't realize Timothy's death. Sod's law indeed...

Further back in time is the death of June Spencer, British radio soap icon for many decades. Probably one of the oldest people ever to get that immediate BBC obit. A hit for quite a few people in this competition.

Next up is the alleged murder of Suzy Lamplugh, John Cannan. Well, he did serve prison time for other crimes as well, including at least one different murder. But he was only mentioned on Wikipedia in relation to the Lamplugh case, two years ago. I checked that back when he was diagnosed with cancer, but I see that he has since "gained" his own page. Well, there you go. Two people, BuffaloPhil and Imelda kept the faith and were rewarded by luck, because it was not cancer that eventually killed Cannan.

Nobody picked Quincy Jones (!).

But many, many players picked Janey Godley. For some, her cancer battle was an attention-seeking, possibly exaggerated moment, but for many others, it was a battle that they knew would end rather sooner than later. And the end came pretty fast for the sort-of stand-up comedian.

Next up is Teri Garr, a hit for six players. Her screen career started with a little assist from Jack Nicholson, got pushed by a first big role in Star Trek and then grew through her comedic talent into an Oscar nomination. After that, as was usual before the age of streaming, her career then declined back to TV roles (today, a TV/streaming role could actually be the real peak of your career). Well, she kind of had a second career as the deadpooler's go-to pick for multiple sclerosis. She did live quite long with it though.

Then we get to Phil Lesh.... no! He wasn't picked, so I can't make the joke of writing an obituary for him than just goes on and on and on and meanders, like one of the Grateful Dead's concerts.

Ah well, going through wikipedia, the not picked people are a theme this time, no Mitzi Gaynor, no Yahya Sinwar, more miss than hit in this update, unfortunately.

Philip Zimbardo however was a unique hit for Charles De Gaulle, congratulations and thank you for that. Also, thank you Mr. Zimbardo for creating the meme-like Stanford prison experiment that probably inspired dozens of movies and Star Trek episodes. Now I've heard that the experiment itself was unethical, or done wrong, but maybe that's where scientific truth and wishful reality don't go together? Well, maybe there'll be a Netflix documentary on it eventually (somebody telling me there is in 3,2,1...).

Next hit then is Tylee Craft, college football player from North Carolina. He had been diagnosed with lung cancer and a well-publicised battle with it for over two years. News were alternatively positive and negative. Yet, the 100 points made the gamble worth it for Banana and Cpt. Chorizo. So yeah, two out of three best-placed players picked him. Not me, however. So as a consequence, it does look like the likely winner of this competition will be one of the two players who picked Craft.

After here, I am unfortunately getting a little tired - preparations for the trip today, and such, so in short fashion, we have Ethel Kennedy and Lily Ebert. Holocaust survivor Ebert was a unique hit for Lady Fiona, who also had a hit with Mrs. Kennedy. Kennedy was a far more popular pick though.

 

So, did I miss anyone? ... double-checking ... oh dear, yes, Geoff Capes. Pedro67 scores a unique hit with the strongman, shot-put champion and Olympic competitor who died at 74 - almost the average life expectancy, something the musclemen rarely achieve.

...Aaand Cissy Houston is a hit for Toast and The Quim Reaper. Thank you DDP fatality list. Houston herself had a decent career as an RnB/spiritual singer but was made definitely obitable by her daughter. Now all deadpooling attention for that family will be focussing on her cousin Leontyne Price.

 

So I hope I did it all right and this is the scoreboard:
 

Rank Team Score
1 Cpt. Chorizo 1337
2 Banana 1299
3 gcreptile 1217
4 Book 1126
5 wannamaker 1102
6 RadGuy 1090
7 msc 1082
8 Perhaps 1041
9 Funeralopolis 1025
10 Summer in Transilvania 961
11 Salmon Mousse 950
12 Mr. Wonderful 923
13 Buffalo Phil 880
14 Toast 827
15 Liz Lemon 821
16 The Immortal 810
17 Torva Messor 785
18 Pedro67 765
19 The Unknown Man 758
20 tracy 745
21 An Fear Beag 731
22 Wormfarmer 729
23 The old lady 694
24 Thatcher 681
25 Etushipushingupdaisies 663
26 Baby Blue 661
27 MariNisia 648
28 Imelda 626
29 Predictor 615
30 Death Impends 607
31 DeathBecomesThem 601
32 Cpt. Hemlock 583
33 Lady Fiona 565
34 Charles De Gaulle 552
35 Caleb H 537
36 TQR 526
37 ThereWillBeDeaths7 516
38 The Old Crem 504
39 The Daredevil 497
40 John Key 485
41 arghton 473
42 Sean 469
43 Diego 457
44 Yorkshire Banker 404
45 Bibliogryphon 398
46 Annami 390
47 Young Willz 352
48 Great Uncle Bulgaria 279
49 Hell 240
50 chileanway 225
51 Sod's Law 202
52 Gooseberry Crumble 59

 

Can Banana pull another rabbit out of his hat or is this the 2nd win of this deadpool for Cpt Chorizo? 6 weeks are left and the necessary 38 pts could almost come from anywhere.

 

One additional note: Unfortunately, I just saw that I previously had assigned points to RadGuy for Irish cook Joe Shannon. But since Shannon hasn't received a QO, I sadly have to take them back...

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Next up is the alleged murder of Suzy Lamplugh, John Cannan. Well, he did serve prison time for other crimes as well, including at least one different murder. But he was only mentioned on Wikipedia in relation to the Lamplugh case, two years ago.

 

Yes, it's shocking as there isn't a shred of evidence to connect him with Suzy Lamplugh. Most of what is in the Wiki article is just rumour and speculation, none of it proven and some of it disproved. The police made early mistakes in the Lamplugh case, not helped by interference from her parents, so they pinned it on Cannan as he was a handy scapegoat.

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Have fun in America @gcreptile and lets hope you won't get blamed for any deaths while out there. :P

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Welcome to our side of the pond @gcreptile. I also will take this opportunity to apologize to the Germans for sending you the Giants and Panthers NFL game last week.

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Helen Gallagher is my 18th hit for this pool.

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