TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 00:29 Hello! Our beloved musical melée Kill or Save has recently started it’s 21st edition, and with that, we are bestowed with the key to the door. And that door leads to…anyfuckingthing we like. Whether you’ve never missed a day since Book kicked off the first game in October 2022 and changed the landscape of this godforsaken forum, you dip in and out when the mood takes you, or you’ve never played before, feel free to join in whenever you want for this: the themed games. This is a chance for all of us players to have a turn in leading a round of Kill or Save, with a theme of their choosing. Whether that theme be an artist, a genre, an era, a letter, a colour, an animal, a vegetable, a mineral, whatever, just make a list of songs (the size is up to you but don’t take the piss either way) in-keeping with that theme and make yourself known in the Kill or Save Hub. Then when one of these mini-games ends and it’s your turn, show us what you’ve got and we’ll decide upon a winner via our tried and tested method of a daily +4 and -6. Have a theme you want to play? Let us know HERE, in the Kill or Save hub, where you’ll find all sorts like links to games past and present, the hall of fame, and other KoS/music chitchat. All are welcome. As with the usual KoS games, here are the rules: Each song starts with 20 points (whether it deserves it or not). You can vote once a day. Since we all live in different parts of the world with all sorts of different timezones, please add a date at the top of your votes to avoid any confusion (e.g. Thu 25 Jul, 25/7/24 etc). Each day you may add up to 4 points to and subtract 6 points from any song on the board. You can split your points between as many songs as you like (well, within whole numbers). You must use all six minus points (unless it’s a round-ending turn) and give at least one plus point. Placeholder posts are allowed, but if you don't edit your votes within 5 minutes, then the next person can go and do their votes. Consecutive votes are not allowed, so no hogging either side of midnight; wait your turn. Before voting, please listen to any songs in the round you don’t know and vote according to your own opinions (of the songs, not the artists or indeed the other posters voting for them) Make sure you copy and paste the most recent voter's scoreboard when you take your turn to score. For your own ease, ‘paste as plain text’ to get rid of the previous poster’s formatting. Then, delete their +/- scores, add yours, adjust the song’s points total and make your scores bold. All clear? Good. The floor is yours. Let’s go Killing and Saving! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 00:32 Right, the first theme will follow. I think it was going to be @Fox B with a hip hop round, unless their list isn't complete and someone else has one. Discuss on the Hub thread and then when sorted start it here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fox B 63 Posted Monday at 00:47 Here’s my round. Kill or Save: The Best of Hip Hop (1979 - present) Thirty hip hop songs from thirty different artists I have curated into a KoS round. It is a mix and match of all hip hop eras from 1979 to the present day. 20 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 20 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 20 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 20 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 20 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 Eminem - Lose Yourself 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Kanye West - Runaway 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 20 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 20 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 20 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE 20 Little Simz - Woman 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fox B 63 Posted Monday at 00:50 January 13, 2025 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police +1 21 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime +1 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power +1 21 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones +1 20 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 20 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 Eminem - Lose Yourself 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Kanye West - Runaway 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 20 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 20 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 20 Little Simz - Woman 14 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE -6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,553 Posted Monday at 00:52 January 13, 2025 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 21 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 21 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) +1 21 Kanye West - Runaway +1 21 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe +1 21 Little Simz - Woman +1 20 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 20 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 Eminem - Lose Yourself 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles -6 14 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 01:25 Mon 13 Jan 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones +1 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime +1 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 21 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) 21 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I +1 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full +1 20 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 18 Eminem - Lose Yourself -2 17 Kanye West - Runaway -4 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE This round ain't gonna be to everyone's tastes, but it's right up my straße. Fucking good selection! There's only one I don't like (nothing to do with him as a person, god's honest), four I can take or leave, the rest are somewhere between brilliant and fucking mindblowing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fox B 63 Posted Monday at 01:36 11 minutes ago, TQR said: This round ain't gonna be to everyone's tastes, but it's right up my straße. Fucking good selection! There's only one I don't like (nothing to do with him as a person, god's honest), four I can take or leave, the rest are somewhere between brilliant and fucking mindblowing. 100% agree, most of these songs could fit comfortably within my all-time favourites, one of the main troubles I had curating this list was narrowing it down to one song per artist! I'll be the first to admit I don't keep up with newer music all that much so the 2010s decade might be a bit barren (I begrudgingly added Sicko Mode and Bodak Yellow simply because I didn't want it to seem like I wasn't bothering with that period, though having relistened to BY for this game I don't think it's bad). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewsky1211 4,929 Posted Monday at 01:40 1/12/2025 23 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) +2 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain +1 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 21 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 20 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 19 Eminem - Lose Yourself +1 17 Kanye West - Runaway 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE 14 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow -6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clorox Bleachman 2,553 Posted Monday at 01:41 16 minutes ago, TQR said: There's only one I don't like (nothing to do with him as a person, god's honest) When I sneakily listen to Late Registration I think gosh, how sad that Mr. West died in a tragic accident in 2018. I'm sure he would've gone on to do great things. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fox B 63 Posted Monday at 01:44 1 minute ago, Clorox Bleachman said: When I sneakily listen to Late Registration I think gosh, how sad that Mr. West died in a tragic accident in 2018. I'm sure he would've gone on to do great things. This is exactly how I feel as well. Kanye as a person, and imo as an artist since 2018, is absolute trash. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 01:47 My knowledge of albums isn't the best, but Three Feet High And Rising is probably in my top 20 of all time. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, scaring the top 5. 2 minutes ago, Fox B said: This is exactly how I feel as well. Kanye as a person, and imo as an artist since 2018, is absolute trash. I've genuinely never been much of a Kanye fan, even like a decade before his public praise for Hitlerrrrrrr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fox B 63 Posted Monday at 01:55 3 minutes ago, TQR said: I've genuinely never been much of a Kanye fan, even like a decade before his public praise for Hitlerrrrrrr. Honestly apart from his very early stuff you aren't missing all that much. Everything he's done the past decade has been genuinely unlistenable. Even if I don't like an album I still try and at least finish it; with Donda I listened to the first six or so songs before deciding I wasn't listening to two hours of that shite. And this is all ignoring, as you've said, the fact the guy is an actual Nazi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sleepiestpeep 165 Posted Monday at 08:52 13 Jan 2025 24 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) +1 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 22 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe +1 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 21 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight +1 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 19 Eminem - Lose Yourself 18 Kanye West - Runaway +1 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 8 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE -6 14 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow I can see down voting getting tricky here! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justonecornetto 1,009 Posted Monday at 11:26 I'll sit this one out, hip hop just isn't my thing, there isn't a single song here I would have on my playlists, sorry guys hope you have fun with this game. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Great Uncle Bulgaria 1,349 Posted Monday at 11:49 I'm not playing this round either, I only know two of these and hip hop not my cup of tea at all but enjoy.... I dread to think what 'No Vaseline' is about.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
En Passant 3,804 Posted Monday at 12:25 34 minutes ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said: I dread to think what 'No Vaseline' is about.. An eternally squeaking door, what else? And no, since the option of -6 / -6 is unavailable even my sporadic voting isn't happening on this one, have fun though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 2,059 Posted Monday at 13:11 Will I be able to participate in this game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 13:54 42 minutes ago, diego said: Will I be able to participate in this game? Yes, go ahead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,757 Posted Monday at 13:55 This is well outside my comfort zone so I will sit this one out 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TQR 14,552 Posted Monday at 13:59 2 hours ago, justonecornetto said: I'll sit this one out, hip hop just isn't my thing, there isn't a single song here I would have on my playlists, sorry guys hope you have fun with this game. 2 hours ago, Great Uncle Bulgaria said: I'm not playing this round either, I only know two of these and hip hop not my cup of tea at all but enjoy.... I dread to think what 'No Vaseline' is about.. 1 hour ago, En Passant said: And no, since the option of -6 / -6 is unavailable even my sporadic voting isn't happening on this one, have fun though. 1 minute ago, Bibliogryphon said: This is well outside my comfort zone so I will sit this one out Fair enough. If there's a theme any of you fancy playing after this one, be sure to make a list and let us know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,757 Posted Monday at 14:04 4 minutes ago, TQR said: Fair enough. If there's a theme any of you fancy playing after this one, be sure to make a list and let us know. I will do one later in the year but at the moment I have too much going on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diego 2,059 Posted Monday at 14:42 13 Jan 2025 24 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 22 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 21 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 20 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 19 Eminem - Lose Yourself 18 Kanye West - Runaway 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 14 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers -6 12 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE +4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,335 Posted Monday at 15:22 Mon 13 Jan 24 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) 22 Grandmaster Flash - The Message +2 22 Run-DMC - It’s Like That +2 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 22 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 21 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 19 Eminem - Lose Yourself 18 Kanye West - Runaway 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 14 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 06 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE -6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theoldlady 2,400 Posted Monday at 15:39 Mon 13 Jan 28 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) +4 22 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 22 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 22 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 21 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 50 Cent - In Da Club 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 19 Eminem - Lose Yourself 18 Kanye West - Runaway 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow 14 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 00 Travis Scott - SICKO MODE -6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drewsky1211 4,929 Posted Monday at 16:18 1/13/2025 (11 AM EST) 29 Outkast - B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad) +1 22 Cypress Hill - Insane in the Brain +1 22 Grandmaster Flash - The Message 22 Run-DMC - It’s Like That 22 Lauryn Hill - Lost Ones 22 A Tribe Called Quest - Check the Rhime 21 N.W.A. - Fuck Tha Police 21 Public Enemy - Fight the Power 22 Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe 21 50 Cent - In Da Club +1 21 Little Simz - Woman 21 De La Soul - Me Myself and I 21 Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full 21 The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper’s Delight 20 Eminem - Lose Yourself +1 20 Kurtis Blow - The Breaks 20 LL Cool J - I Can’t Live Without My Radio 20 Boogie Down Productions - Stop the Violence 20 Ice Cube - No Vaseline 20 The Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck 20 Nas - N.Y. State of Mind 20 2Pac - All Eyez on Me 20 Dr. Dre - The Watcher 20 Missy Elliot - Get Ur Freak On 20 Post Malone - Rockstar 18 Kanye West - Runaway 14 Rae Sremmurd - Black Beatles 14 Tyler the Creator - Yonkers 08 Cardi B - Bodak Yellow -6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
