Who are the immortals?

[arghton 6,698]

On 28/12/2020 at 12:45, drol said:

Tran Thiem Khiem (1925) was wheelchair bound and on his last legs when he received baptism in 2018 and has grown increasingly frail.

https://vietbao.com/a308560/cuu-dai-tuong-tran-thien-khiem-qua-doi-tai-california-huong-tho-95-tuoi

It was finally his Thiem to go.

 

Kissinger is now the last notable commander on South Vietnam's and USA's side in the Vietnam War.

[drol 11,923]

Trần Thiện Khiêm (1925-2021)

 

Your Thiem is up!

 

 

Age at death: 95

Known health issues: Frail and wheelchair bound since 2018 at least, seemed on his last legs when he received baptism two years ago.

Cause of death: Natural causes.

Alignment: Long-time PM of South Vietnam, ally of Murica, and historically speaking, a dinosaur. Not the nicest bloke by some accounts.

[arghton 6,698]

On 25/06/2021 at 12:49, arghton said:

https://vietbao.com/a308560/cuu-dai-tuong-tran-thien-khiem-qua-doi-tai-california-huong-tho-95-tuoi

It was finally his Thiem to go.

 

Kissinger is now the last notable commander on South Vietnam's and USA's side in the Vietnam War.

North Vietnam has two notable commanders alive:

 

Nguyễn Thị Bình (b. 1927) Probably the last signatory of the Paris Peace Accords, one of the last notable negotiators along with immortals Thích Nhất Hạnh and Henry Kissinger. Vietnam's Vice President 1992-2002.

Apparently still in a good health but starting to look very old. Undated picture of her:

 

Khieu Samphan (b. 1931) Pol Pot-era Head of State of Cambodia. Last living senior Khmer Rouge member and serving a life sentence in jail.

[drol 11,923]

Dilip Kumar (1922-2021)

 

You're dead, Dilip (Sam Wheat to Dilip after his passing)

 

Hail to the King! (Dilip to Saira Banu after being discharged for the 5000th time in a year)

 

This thing won't die! (EVERYONE on Dilip Kumar)

 

 

 

Age at death: 98

Known health issues: On his identity card Dilip had "death dodger" reported as occupation. He had been a Nosferatur for at least 10 years before his actual death. In 2017 it was a continuous hospitalization. But he would always always come back.

Cause of death: metastatic prostate cancer, kidney and respiratory failure. But he was improving a day before his death.

Alignment: The greatest Bollywood actor ever, probably almost all his movies suck. To us he was the Lord of Darkness, Image of the Greatest Power of the World or simply that Immortal indian Geezer. We'll miss you Dilip.

[drol 11,923]

Where do we go now?

 

The King of Kings, the Shadow of Immortality has left us. A king has his reign, then he dies. That's how things go. But after the death of a king, a new one should be sworn in. Who will it be? The decrepit Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh, fellow Indian immortal SAS Geelani, obese ogre-looking composer Mikis Theodorakis? sorry for them, they'll have to wait. As the new king is none other than....

 

 

VMAR Ri Yong-Mu! Ok, now you can drop that gun, Kim. 

 

Come on, did you really believe this guy has the stuff to be the king? Not in a million year. So let's introduce our real king...

 

 

King Bob I!

 

King Bob survived everything during the last ten years, he practically lives at Walter Reed and is giving stage IV lung cancer a very hard time. Long Live the King!

 

 

[arghton 6,698]

As Edwin Edwards is now (finally) dead after going into hospice after saying that he isn't dying (and after outliving four of his successors, all younger than him: Dave Treen (1928-2009), Kathleen Blanco (1942-2019), Mike Foster (1930-2020) and Buddy Roemer (1943-2021)), how many Americans are we left with?

 

Five (or six) if I've counted them right. Bob Dole, Jimmy Carter, Henry Kissinger, Joanne Woodward and John Rigas (and Tsung-Dao Lee, born in China but a citizen of the USA)

 

My predictions:

Next one is either Dole, Woodward or Rigas, I'd say. Carter next year, Tsung-Dao Lee in around 2023 or 2024. Henry Kissinger will be the last man standing out of those six proving that the bad live forever

 

 

Also, new suggestion:

 

Pope Benedict XVI (1927-2022)

Hemorrhagic stroke in 1991, hospitalized atleast two times in the 1990s, (fall in 1992), heart problems before becoming pope (got a pacemaker while he was a cardinal) mild stroke in 2005, bypass operation in 2006, hospitalized due to a fall in 2009. In 2006 people were nearly sure his reign would be short. In addition, as a cardinal Pope Benny tried to resign three times: 1991, 1996 and 2001 due to health problems. Reported to be suffering from arthritis in 2011, in late 2011 his health was reported to be in seriously declining by some news sites.

 

Retired in 2013 due to high blood pressure, "multiple health problems" and advanced age. Health reported by vatican sources as "fastly declining" after the retirement, rumored to be "close to death" in 2017, "increasingly frail in the last phase of his life" in 2018.

In June 2020 he looked very frail while visiting his dying older brother Georg who had for the last years reported Benedict's health troubles. Georg died in July, in August he suffered from a serious facial infection. In November he outlived his former butler who had leaked papal correspondance. In December it was reported that he was losing his ability to talk.

Latest news? A week ago he was reported to be praying for his successor's surgery.

[drol 11,923]

Edwin Edwards (1927-2021)

 

I'm not dying! (Edwards while in the coffin)

 

 

Age at death: 93

Known health issues: Hospitalized for pneumonia in 2015 and 2016. Suffering from a cold in 2020, placed in hospice care in 2021, but he insisted he was not dying.

Cause of death: Respiratory failure.

Alignment: Crook.

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[arghton 6,698]

New picture of Thimmakka as she was vaccinated six days ago. (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mangaluru/mangaluru-minister-steps-in-infant-flies-home-without-virus-test/articleshow/84545955.cms)

[arghton 6,698]

On 10/04/2021 at 22:21, arghton said:

My list of immortal-candidates, some with more health issues and some with less, most could be considered if they're still alive in around a year or two:

 

Vesa-Matti Loiri (born 1945) Finnish comedian, hospitalized tens of times during the last 50 years first for using a ton of drugs, mental problems, in the 2000s and 2010s for being extremely obese, alcohol and tobacco user, was in a wheelchair for a long time in the 2010s. In new pictures, looks like he's wearing a plastic mask of himself.

Seen in a car, looks like he has (again) gained weight. Apparently he was also smoking a cigar in the car, as he still hasn't given up smoking and drinking.

I should make a proper list of every time this man has been hospitalised/"not long for this world"/had some else kind of tragedy, as it's impressive how he just somehow keeps on going

 

Late 1950s/start of the 1960s Loiri starts using tobacco as a teenager.

1960s, year not mentioned Loiri starts using cannabis and alcohol

1969 Nearly fell to his death during the filming of the movie Pohjan tähteet.

1970 Injured while playing football, got his first near-death experience. In ICU after a fever and fat embolism following the incident.

1971-1972 Slips on his own bodily liquids and has another near-death experience after hitting his head, fiance Katja Peiponen (birth date unknown, died 2001) attempts suicide and aborts their child.

1970s, year not mentioned Loiri starts using more alcohol, goes bankrupt, addicted to "pills"

Wife Mona introduces him to mescaline.

Travels to Turkey, uses hashish he bought from the street.

Assaulted atleast two people in the 1970s.

1977 Mona Loiri dies in car accident with her new lover.

Later the same year, Loiri attempts suicide with pills.

Put into two different mental institutions in the late 1970s.

1980s, year not mentioned Loiri starts using Psilocybe semilanceata/psilocybin mushrooms with a colleague.

Had a quarrelsome relationship with the nanny of his child Joonas.

1990 Longtime drinking buddy and friend Juha "Junnu" Vainio (1938-1990) dies from a heart attack.

1994 After a short time of Loiri enjoying his life, his son with Mona Loiri, Jan Loiri (ca. 1973/1974-1994) dies in a car accident aged 20.

Loiri assaults actor Ville Virtanen.

1995 Loiri's father Taito Loiri (1911-1995) dies.

With Spede Pasanen, in 1995

2001 The shocking and sudden death of friend and colleague Spede Pasanen (1930-2001) affects Loiri a lot.

Early 2000s Loiri starts gaining more and more weight, being around 150kg/330lbs at his largest

2005 Hospitalised with salmonella, another near-death experience.

Had a cataract surgery, surgeries on his face and a surgery on his arm.

Mentions retirement plans.

2007 Talks publicly about his diabetes diagnosis. He was diagnosed in 2006 or 2007.

Marjatta Raita (1944-2007) friend of Loiri, Uuno Turhapuro's (Turhapuro's actor was Loiri) wife in the Turhapuro series dies.

2008 Says that he won't retire anytime soon.

Loses a couple of friends/colleagues, Ere Kokkonen (1938-2008) and Tapio Hämäläinen (1922-2008)

2010 Hospitalised after "serious health problems"

Diagnosed with sleep apnea and hypertension.

Nearly died of brain asphyxia at some point in 2010, also suffered some kind of a diabetic shock and was found walking half-conscious in a hotel corridor, having used alcohol, cannabis, sleeping and pain meds. In ICU with a respirator for a day, that was the first day in six years he had not been drunk.

In a wheelchair for a while.

During a concert in 2010

2011 Hospitalised once again, according to some sources.

2012 Forgets words and falls during a christmas consert. Later he has revealed that he used a litre of vodka each day during these times.

Says that he was preparing for his death around these times.

2013 Loiri's mother Lily Loiri (1916-2013) dies.

Has a gastric sleeve surgery that dropped his weight by 60kg/132lbs.

2014 First wife Tuula Nyman (1943-2014) dies.

Goes to Thailand for a holiday, manager finds him sitting in a diaper that he has to wear due to the gastric sleeve surgery with the floor filled with empty liquor bottles.

Hospitalised in Thailand.

Hospitalised again in Finland after his summer concerts as there was a 80% blockage in his carotid arteries. Says this was the fifth time he narrowly escaped death.

Again in a wheelchair for a while.

First death rumor.

2015 Second death rumor.

Outlives Simo Salminen (1932-2015) last living other main actor in the (whole, from start to end) Uuno Turhapuro series.

2016

2017 Loiri's son Joonas mentions that Loiri has "shown a middle finger to death for the last 10 years" and Joonas says that he is fully prepared for his father's death.

2018 Talks about being seriously depressed and says that he is having a "depression period". Says that he has no plans for the future.

2019 Loiri's son Joonas (1982-2019) dies from a sudden bout of illness.

Has frequent falls at the start of the year until he gets a pacemaker in the summer of 2019.

Releases his memoirs with Jari Tervo, who later talked about how he smoked and drank all the time and his house smelled horrible.

2020 Talks about loneliness, his friend Jope Ruonansuu (1964-2020) dies.

2021 Third death rumor spreads on tiktok in April 2021.

Yet, he's still alive and plans on appearing on a tv show next month.

September:

Now somehow looks much better than in decades.

November: In an accident

2022 Quietly reaches 2022 and age 77 to the great annoyance of people who had betted on him dying in 2021.

Fourth death rumor in January 2022 caused by people mixing him with Meat Loaf.

 

[arghton 6,698]

Hiriart has been hospitalised two times this month for breathing problems and Theodorakis is "deteriorating at home" (apparently not true). What's up with the others?

 

There has been rumors about the health of Geelani (again), his son says that he is "stable and fine" (https://www.shaharbeen.com/news-regarding-syed-ali-shah-geelani/)

Golpaygani has finally done something great and called the taliban what they are: Barbaric terrorists. (https://en.abna24.com/news//message-of-grand-ayatollah-saafi-golpaygani-regarding-tragic-incidents-of-afghanistan_1160977.html)

Couldn't find anything new (from the last 7 days) about the others.

[arghton 6,698]

On 10/04/2021 at 22:21, arghton said:

My list of immortal-candidates, some with more health issues and some with less, most could be considered if they're still alive in around a year or two:

...

Margarita Terekhova (born 1942) Russian actress. Alzheimer's since around 2006, some reports say that it started to affect her badly in 2011 and still not dead. Couldn't recognize any of her family members in 2019, can't speak, bedridden and her family doesn't have money for her treatment.

...

https://www.starhit.ru/novosti/doch-margarityi-terehovoy-neznakomyie-lyudi-do-sih-por-perevodyat-mame-dengi-250169/

79 two days ago. According to new article she has been bedridden and hasn't talked for years (around seven to three years in late-stage, judging from old articles). Surrounded by a medical team, treatment costs around 150,000 roubles a month (around 2000 dollars)

[drol 11,923]

YEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!

[arghton 6,698]

On 24/08/2021 at 21:54, arghton said:

There has been rumors about the health of Geelani (again), his son says that he is "stable and fine" (https://www.shaharbeen.com/news-regarding-syed-ali-shah-geelani/)

Probably not that fine as now he's dead, under two weeks later...

[drol 11,923]

On 10/04/2021 at 19:33, drol said:

So right now it's 2 from Murica, 1 from Europe and 3 from Africa. None from Asia. Who's there from each country?

 

India

Dilip Kumar (1922)

S.A.S. Geelani (1929)

Saalumarada Thimmakka (1911)

Fauja Singh (1911)

VS Achuthanandan (1923)

KR Gowri Amma (1919)

Philipose Mar Chrysostom (1918)

G. Venkatasubbiah (1913)

Mulayam Singh Yadav (1939)

 

China

Ma Shitu (1915)

Wan Haifeng (1920)

Jiang Zemin (1926)

Hu Qili (1928)

Zou Yu (1920)

Chen Ning Yang (1922)

Tsung Dao Lee (1926, living in US)

Song Ping (1917)

 

China's immortals team is really squonking the Indians. Unscathed after 8 months, whereas 5/9 Indians have died.

[drol 11,923]

Syed Ali Shah Geelani (1929-2021)

 

I'm not a terrorist, but I want to see India destroyed by a nuclear explosion (SAS Geelani explains his theories on peace)

 

He has clearly been killed by the Indian government (every follower of Geelani after his untimely death)

 

 

Age at death: 91

Known health issues: Continued heart issues for years, rumoured to be dead in 2014, in a critical condition in February 2020.

Cause of death: Natural causes.

Alignment: A sanguinary Kashmiri warlord who was behind bombings in J&K for years. Yeah, what you'd call a good riddance.

[Charles De Gaulle 484]

@drol could you get an updated list on the immortals and post it again. Its getting kinda hard to keep track by digging through this thread to find the list.

[drol 11,923]

Mikis Theodorakis (1925-2021)

 

Where is all your Sirtaki gone?

 

 

Age at death: 96

Known health issues: Suffered at least three heart attacks in his 90s and had been in super-frai

Cause of death: Natural causes.

Alignment: A sanguinary Kashmiri warlord who was behind bombings in J&K for years. Yeah, what you'd call a good riddance. Oh, no, I'm getting confused! A communist who was a self-declared Anti-Semit. Well, not so far...

[Perhaps 1,423]

3 hours ago, Charles De Gaulle said:

@drol could you get an updated list on the immortals and post it again. Its getting kinda hard to keep track by digging through this thread to find the list.

 

I don’t know why drol wasn’t allowed his own thread for this so he could keep it up to date on page one!

 

But instead his thread was merged with this trash 16 year old one. The disrespect. 

[Ulitzer95 12,582]

On 10/04/2021 at 20:21, arghton said:

My list of immortal-candidates, some with more health issues and some with less, most could be considered if they're still alive in around a year or two:
 

*snip*

Arne Konrad Eldegard (born 1917) Norwegian politician. Didn't look at the camera on his 100th birthday which can be a sign of some age-related issues, but I don't know if he has any

*snip*

You can remove Arne Konrad Eldegard (wiki) from your personal list @arghton, because it transpires he died in March 2018, aged 100.

[Ulitzer95 12,582]

On 28/12/2020 at 10:45, drol said:

So, here it is. Among the late December thread frenzy, here's one about the toughest people on Earth. What is the purpose of this? Well, that when it will be updated it will mean one of these fuckers has finally fallen and not another sportsperson in his 60s as it happens in the Dead of 20xx threads. So here is the list I took from a previous post. New names will be added with valid reasons, i. e. continued hospitalizations and extreme old age (59 names till now, 13 dead)
*snip*

John Rigas (1924) had terminal bladder cancer in 2016. The jailbird is still flying high as to this day. 
*snip*

Businessman and fraudster John Rigas (wiki) not flying so high now, because he's dead at 96.

[arghton 6,698]

Almost a month since the last one. Hiriart next?

[drol 11,923]

John Rigas (1924-2021)

 

Here's your compassionate release!

 

 

Age at death: 96

Known health issues: "Terminal" bladder cancer since 2015.

Cause of death: Natural causes.

Alignment: Crook.

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[arghton 6,698]

On 28/12/2020 at 12:45, drol said:

So, here it is. Among the late December thread frenzy, here's one about the toughest people on Earth. What is the purpose of this? Well, that when it will be updated it will mean one of these fuckers has finally fallen and not another sportsperson in his 60s as it happens in the Dead of 20xx threads. So here is the list I took from a previous post. New names will be added with valid reasons, i. e. continued hospitalizations and extreme old age (59 names till now, 14 dead)

 

Thich Nhat Hanh (1926). Suffered a tremendous stroke in 2014, expected to be dead within months then. Went to Vietnam two years ago to "spend his last days" there. Was reported to be dying last year. Sought treatment for pneumonia in Thailand in autumn 2019. Again weak and not eating at his 94th birthday, quickly recovered.

95 today. Recent health update from two days ago:

 

"Over the last year, Thầy’s health has weakened. The autumn rains have always been challenging for Thầy’s lungs and health, and continue to be so. This spring Thầy was not able to go outside to visit the temple grounds as much as he could last year. Nevertheless, the sangha was delighted that, when the Từ Hiếu Temple renovation was finished, Thầy was well enough to make a tour of the temple to visit the completed works. In recent months, Thầy has been resting for most of the day with his eyes closed, yet he is often very alert, present and at peace."

https://plumvillage.org/articles/message-for-thays-birthday/

[arghton 6,698]

Some more potential immortals:

 

Shige Mineshiba (1909-2023) and Lawrence Brooks (1909-2022) Probably the top immortals in the World's Oldest (excluding Tanaka and Randon): How the fuck do these two just keep living? Mineshiba, second- now oldest person in Canada has had dementia for over 12 years, had a myocardial infarction and needed a heart surgery at 87 and is unable to walk and probably can't speak anymore. Lawrence Brooks' health deteriorated very rapidly between october and november 2021 and he has basically been in home hospice for over a month, but Richard Overton's successor as the oldest known American WWII vet is very tough.

Isabel Robalino (1917-2022) First female Senator in Ecuador, the Florence Lubega of Ecuador. Has been in a wheelchair for atleast eight years, probably longer. Often still wheeled around and participates in events, legs covered with a blanket.

Nehemiah Persoff (1919-2022) Ancient hollywood actor whose career ended in the 1980s due to a stroke, obese until recent years and now, at 102, looks better than in decades. A true enigma and a "phoenix"-type person, looked like he's near the end and extremely frail when he got to 100. Lost his wife at the start of 2021 and also suspected to be near the end as they were together for over 70 years but reappeared before his 102nd birthday looking amazing for a man his age. Perennial pool tease in a ton of pools, picked in Deathrace twice last year.

Josip Manolic (1920-2024) Communist revolutionary, Prime Minister of Yugoslavia's Croatia. Widowed twice, first in 2003 and from his second wife, 36 years younger than him, in 2020. Got covid and mild pneumonia in April 2021, survived those without going to a hospital. 

Khamtai Siphandon (1924-) Horrible-looking former dictator of Laos, now 97. 

Jaakko Syrjä (1926-2022) is a poet and writer and the widower of poet Kirsi Kunnas. He has looked like a corpse for the last four decades, became very pale years ago, has had dementia for years and has now spent over a year in a hospital. 

Eila Roine (1931-) Legendary Finnish children's tv presenter, Roine has had multiple strokes and heart attacks (and atleast one fall) during the recent years and is monitored in a care home.

Colin Baddiel (1934-2022) Mentioned on this forum a number of times and first called an immortal around 2018, Pick's disease dementia for atleast a decade (around thirteen years, average life expectancy of someone with the disease is 7 years) and needed 24/7 care five years ago. Dying years ago, hospitalised last December in bad shape but still somehow going. Bedridden for a while but apparently not currently as of November 2021. Died around 18/19th of January 2022.

Superstar Billy Graham (1943-2023) Cirrhosis in 2002 and recieved a liver transplant, bowel obstruction in 2006, one year to live in 2010, early stage cirrhosis (and also got a burial spot) in 2011, third-stage liver disease and cirrhosis in 2012, hepatitis C, double pneumonia with possible heart failure in 2013, liver complication in 2014, internal bleeding in 2016, pneumonia in 2019, toe infection in 2020, suffering from skin cancer for years, in September 2021 hospitalised again with fluid in his lungs and has atrial fibrillation and congestive heart failure. May have exaggerated his health issues, but still a miracle and now at 78 he's ancient for a show wrestler. 

Jake "The Snake" Roberts (1955-) Professional wrestler with a history of alcohol and drug abuse, he's had muscular cancer and was "coma-like" and in ICU with double pneumonia in 2014, has an abnormality in his brain, covid in 2020 and now completely fucked with COPD, in a wheelchair and with a permanent nasal cannula but still keeps hanging on. Battling Henry Kissinger and Leslie Phillips for the title of Last Living Deathlister of 2015.

 

 

And as the amount of immortal businesspeople isn't quite large currently, here are some suggestions for the future:

 

Charles Dolan (1926-) Founder of HBO. Corpse-like in pictures from years ago. 

Gaston Glock (1929-2023) Two strokes (2008 and 2012) and "ailing" over seven years ago. 

George Soros (1930-) No health issues but very notable, survived a pipe bomb in 2018. Mortal or an immortal flying 5G space reptile?

Baron Jacob Rotschild (1936-2024) Now older than his mother, father and paternal grandfather, widowed in 2019 and looks like the Duke of Kent's long lost uncle. Agewise just a spring chicken compared to most immortals though. 

[drol 11,923]

Florence Alice Lubega (1917-2021)

 

You're a woman, right? (Prince Philip when meeting Florence Lubega in the Heaven of Immortals)

 

 

Age at death: 103

Known health issues: Wheelchair bound for years, suffering from a "serious illness" in March 2020.

Cause of death: Natural causes.

Alignment: First female MP of Uganda, so quite a groundbreaking feature in her country.