Dead Muhammad Ali

[Lady Die 63]

There's a photo of him in The Daily Telegraph today walking with a zimmer (sorry can't supply a link). Apparently he can barely walk even with a frame.

[Octopus of Odstock 2,187]

Brief article, probably similiar to one read by Lady Die here.

 

Wouldn't say he's on deaths door, simply not the man he was either 30 yrs ago or 10.

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

He's very ill and his mobility has deteriorated noticably over the last few years, but he's still strong enough inside - heart, lungs etc - to see out the year.

[Canadian Paul 97]

He's very ill and his mobility has deteriorated noticably over the last few years, but he's still strong enough inside - heart, lungs etc - to see out the year.

 

Is that based off a new article, or your personal observations from what we've all been discussing? (Sorry if that sounds snooty, it's not meant to be.)

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Is that based off a new article, or your personal observations from what we've all been discussing? (Sorry if that sounds snooty, it's not meant to be.)

 

A bit of all of them and some e-mail exchanges with a former associate of Ali. The guy I know is well out of the loop now but has some mutual contacts who are still close.

[football_fan 42]

Ali to appear at Parkinson's fund-raiser

[Life Begins at 5 o'clock 7]

Yea...Arum sounds more defeated then Ali. I'd put him on the list before I put Ali on.

[Guest Silver]

He is NR. 1. in my deathlist

its time to for him I think...

[Canadian Paul 97]

Muhammad Ali sells out.

 

Sounds like the actions of a man ready for his end... or am I misreading into this?

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Sounds like a very sick man and his astute business minded wife getting things in order. IMO;he's got a few years, but he won't be dancing anymore.

[Life Begins at 5 o'clock 7]

Having sold most his name, henceforth he will be known as Mohum.

[Godot 149]

He should never have gone on Parkinson. That bastard has infected so many people.

[The Four Horsemen 26]

I hear Rod Hull hit the roof............

[fleety 0]

You cant get Parkinsons from boxing. My mum got it and she was far from a boxer.

[Godot 149]

You cant get Parkinsons from boxing. My mum got it and she was far from a boxer.

 

 

 

A mile? Two miles? They say that wherever you go on the street in London you are never more than 10ft away from a boxer.

 

Or is it a rat?

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Interview in today's Observer Sport Monthly with Thomas 'Hit Man' Hearns still boxing at 47 where some people express concern about his slurred speech and Ferdie Pacheco - Ali's doctor - makes a few comments about almost every great fighter going on too long and shipping too much punishment.

 

No quote from Ali though.

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

[Grim Reaper 186]

Damnit - we meant Floyd Patterson

[Godot 149]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

 

Neither can I and I'm a lot younger.

[Banshees Scream 110]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

 

Neither can I and I'm a lot younger.

 

You wouldn't be an old retired boxer who is famous?

 

Would you be Godot?

 

............... So you forget things often?

[Gunjaman5000 30]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

Nor could he remember his phone number or his fellow commissioners' names.

 

In 1998, he gave evidence in legal proceedings concerning 'ultimate fighting', a hybrid of brawling and martial arts that is banned in New York. He was cross-examined by counsel for the promoters of the sport and could not remember whom he had fought for the heavyweight title, the names of his fellow commissioners or even the telephone number of his office. Patterson resigned, devastated.

 

Very sad indeed.

[Godot 149]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

 

Neither can I and I'm a lot younger.

 

You wouldn't be an old retired boxer who is famous?

 

Would you be Godot?

 

............... So you forget things often?

 

 

I cudda been a contender, you mean? Naa. Been hit around the head a few times though and have been wondering recently if I'm suffering from early onset Alzheimer's. I went to a site the other day and found I could tick all the boxes, also I don't think that note there about Patterson not remembering various people and his phone number particularly odd. I can't remember anything and have to make notes all the time. Now, whole chunks of my past - incidents, meetings with people, events - have disappeared. It's spooky.

[maryportfuncity 10,645]

For the record, Patterson beat Archie Moore to become the youngest ever world champion and lost it to Ingmar Johansson before winning it back in a rematch, becoming the first champion to do so. Sonny Liston annihilated him in two short brutal fights and Ali made him look very ordinary in the sixties and again - when Patterson was 37 - in 1972.

 

I considered a boxing career myself like, but I value them facts in my head too much.

[Guest tomtom]

he's a baby.

[Banshees Scream 110]

Health of Floyd Patterson wasn't exactly helped by his Alheimers, like Ali's Parkinson's it's one of those conditions that can be accelerated by boxing. Patterson was 71, a few years back there was the sad spectacle of him giving evidence to a commission investigating boxing. He was asked about winning his world title and he couldn't remember the name of his opponent.

 

Neither can I and I'm a lot younger.

 

You wouldn't be an old retired boxer who is famous?

 

Would you be Godot?

 

............... So you forget things often?

 

 

I cudda been a contender, you mean? Naa. Been hit around the head a few times though and have been wondering recently if I'm suffering from early onset Alzheimer's. I went to a site the other day and found I could tick all the boxes, also I don't think that note there about Patterson not remembering various people and his phone number particularly odd. I can't remember anything and have to make notes all the time. Now, whole chunks of my past - incidents, meetings with people, events - have disappeared. It's spooky.

 

If constant worries and high stress are topping the charts that may explain...

 

Depression or deep sorrow can also cause you to loose your mind.

 

Go and get wha you want. That is the answer.