Lothar_The_Lurker 1 Posted December 14, 2006 I hope this doesn't turn into a large debate, because I don't think this is the right forum to do so in I don't think you understand. This is www.Deathlist.net You're right. I'm just trying to use caution since I'm new here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prawny 0 Posted December 14, 2006 Alexander Shulgin (81) [stepfather of MDMA] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olveres 8 Posted December 14, 2006 Dave Mustaine, lead singer of MegaDETH, just got a feeling on this one....probably be proven wrong though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Ronnie 78 Posted December 14, 2006 Cheeta the chimp would be an excellent selection, wasn't Red Rum on the list one year? So why not Cheeta, he's a world famous movie star and the world's oldest known chimp. Over the years, rules have become more sifisticated. Red Rum was on the list a few years ago, but in Deathlists modern day, Cheeta would be considered illegal. BS is correct - no animals. One reason is that most animals have much shorter life spans than humans, so one would start approaching fish in a barrel territory by picking e.g. the White House dog (insert Bush joke here). I suppose an agrument could be made that any animal with an expected life span similar to that of humans could be considered (here's a somewhat haphazard list some Doolittle type posted http://sonic.net/~petdoc/lifespan.htm. Some of the numbers he quotes look like so much bullshit, but anyway), but the Committee decided against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherman90 7 Posted December 15, 2006 Ahmet Ertugun is dead - too late for that one! Good call though, OoO Ertugun dead. Not Olivia de Havilland. She looked ready to rock til 100 at her party recently. My suggestions: Saddam Hussein - execution Lansana Conte - very ill Ariel Sharon - coma Fidel Castro - terminally ill? Maurice Papon - the bastard has to go soon Basil d'Oliviera - very ill with Parkinson's Ahmet Ertugun - coma Frederick Chiluba - very ill with heart probs Luciano Pavarotti - pancreatic cancer Louis Farrkahan - cancer Gabriel Garcia Marquez - cancer Phil Hill - very frail & ill fast Charlie Drake - ill Jesse Helms - dementia Kurt Waldheim - frail, internal bleeding Sargent Shriver - alzheimers Richard Widmark - lucky pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherman90 7 Posted December 15, 2006 Why Jack Jones? From what I can tell he is a 68 year old in good health. Jack Jones Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted December 15, 2006 Why Jack Jones? From what I can tell he is a 68 year old in good health. Jack Jones Sorry Weatherman, I should have been clearer. I meant this Jack Jones. Famous enough here, but not internationally I agree. He might get a knighthood too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weatherman90 7 Posted December 15, 2006 That would make more sense. Why Jack Jones? From what I can tell he is a 68 year old in good health. Jack Jones Sorry Weatherman, I should have been clearer. I meant this Jack Jones. Famous enough here, but not internationally I agree. He might get a knighthood too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted December 15, 2006 John Demjanjuk - 86 - Nazi Luise Rainer - 97 Acress Mitch Miller - 95 - Bandleader John Paul Stevens - 86 - US Supreme Court justice Art Linkletter - 94 - Entertainment Sargent Shriver - 91 - Politics '(Alzheimers) Phil Rizzuto - 89 - Hall of fame Yankee player and broadcaster. Oral Roberts - 88 - Religion Yasuhiro Nakasone - 88 - Former PM of Japan Al Molinaro - 87 - Actor John Glenn - 85 - Exploration Walter Mondale - 79 - Former VP Norman Wisdom - 91 - Actor Clive Dunn - 86 - Deathlist Favorite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted December 15, 2006 I just have a couple of suggestions that I couldn't see mentioned in earlier posts George Beverly Shea - 97 (98 on Feb 1st) Religious singer often follows Billy Graham around Steven Adler - 41 (has suffered a stroke and also a heart attack in the past, still hasn't kicked drug habit) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted December 15, 2006 Some corkers above with which I wholeheartedly agree, a few others I think we should consider: Michael DeBakey Lindsey Hughes: A particular favourite at MPFC Towers, academic and notable to the point of assured broadsheet obit, and suffering a touch of the old terminal liver cancer. Evel Knieval Tsien Hsue-shen: Father of Chinese Rocketry, unlikely to be blasting for another year. Anton Balasingham;Tamil Tiger negotiator Edward Upward: Another MPFC Towers favourite, poet who's already topped a ton in age. Broadsheet obits already prepared, apparantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windsor 2,233 Posted December 15, 2006 Some corkers above with which I wholeheartedly agree, a few others I think we should consider: Anton Balasingham;Tamil Tiger negotiator . Already dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshees Scream 110 Posted December 15, 2006 Looks like they will be holding the funeral next week. http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200612151940.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maryportfuncity 10,645 Posted December 15, 2006 Aye, thanks lads, been a bit busy workwise of late, couldn't make his funeral meself like. Still think I've got a winner or two in my other picks, mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted December 15, 2006 Michael DeBakey I like this one, very unwell as of late and quiet since his blood clot. Lindsey Hughes: A particular favourite at MPFC Towers, academic and notable to the point of assured broadsheet obit, and suffering a touch of the old terminal liver cancer. While I don't doubt that she'll get a UK obit, I'd say not famous enough for DL standards (at least, that's what I guess the committee will say) Evel Knieval Preparing a lawsuit against Kanye West, so I guess he plans on being around for a while. Tsien Hsue-shen: Father of Chinese Rocketry, unlikely to be blasting for another year. Another one I like, and thus suggested above. Interesting and frail. Anton Balasingham;Tamil Tiger negotiator Dead as noted. Edward Upward: Another MPFC Towers favourite, poet who's already topped a ton in age. Broadsheet obits already prepared, apparantly. A good one I think, but I believe DL is trying to steer away from centenarians this coming year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted December 15, 2006 Lindsey Hughes; who? Michael DeBakey; who? Tsien Hsue-shen; who? Edward Upward; who? I'm sure the DL committee can come up with some real celebs who might cark it, as opposed to these obscure individuals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted December 15, 2006 Michael DeBakey; who? He's a pioneering heart surgeon Edward Upward; who? 103 year old novelist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted December 15, 2006 Michael DeBakey; who? He's a pioneering heart surgeon I know who they all are, though I wouldn't have if they hadn't been mentioned on DL. Hardly household names though are they. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,533 Posted December 15, 2006 Michael DeBakey; who? He's a pioneering heart surgeon I know who they all are, though I wouldn't have if they hadn't been mentioned on DL. Hardly household names though are they. DeBakey's been mentioned a few times, in fact he's on my CPDP Upward I think has been mentioned once before. The others I don't think they've been mentioned at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canadian Paul 97 Posted December 15, 2006 Lindsey Hughes; who? Michael DeBakey; who? Tsien Hsue-shen; who? Edward Upward; who? I'm sure the DL committee can come up with some real celebs who might cark it, as opposed to these obscure individuals. I'd never heard of George Best before I came to this site? Does that make him obscure? No, it just means I don't watch British football, and I'm sure no one would have had a problem with putting him on the list. It's all relative, you can't say someone is obscure just because YOU have never heard of them. Furthermore, with the exception of Hughes, all of those are at least as famous as, say, Niemeyer, Kunitz, Levi-Strauss, Rayner, Melly etc. in the global sense... some of them may be known very well in Britain, but relative to the world, they're just as famous as DeBakey, Hsue-shen or Upward and would probably make for better threads than a few of them too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godot 149 Posted December 15, 2006 MPFC you have gone about this Lindsey Hughes woman so much and so long that I feel as if she lives next door. No-one else but you seems to know who the hell she is or what her ailment is but my faith in your judgement is such that I feel I have to list her. So she's my MPFC bonus selection in the DDP (unless I lose heart tomorrow). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted December 15, 2006 Lindsey Hughes; who? Michael DeBakey; who? Tsien Hsue-shen; who? Edward Upward; who? I'm sure the DL committee can come up with some real celebs who might cark it, as opposed to these obscure individuals. I'd never heard of George Best before I came to this site? Does that make him obscure? No, it just means I don't watch British football, and I'm sure no one would have had a problem with putting him on the list. It's all relative, you can't say someone is obscure just because YOU have never heard of them. Furthermore, with the exception of Hughes, all of those are at least as famous as, say, Niemeyer, Kunitz, Levi-Strauss, Rayner, Melly etc. in the global sense... some of them may be known very well in Britain, but relative to the world, they're just as famous as DeBakey, Hsue-shen or Upward and would probably make for better threads than a few of them too... I'm betting that 90% of the world's population have never heard of them, they're far too obscure. I agree with you on Kunitz though, he should never have been on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted December 15, 2006 Furthermore, with the exception of Hughes, all of those are at least as famous as, say, Niemeyer, Kunitz, Levi-Strauss, Rayner, Melly etc. in the global sense... some of them may be known very well in Britain, but relative to the world, they're just as famous as DeBakey, Hsue-shen or Upward and would probably make for better threads than a few of them too... Tammy Faye Messner is pretty obscure in the UK. I think you'd struggle to find more than 3 people in a workplace of 100 that would know who she actually was rather than sometimes hearing the name. And that 1 of those 3 will say she's a singer.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempus Fugit 214 Posted December 15, 2006 Furthermore, with the exception of Hughes, all of those are at least as famous as, say, Niemeyer, Kunitz, Levi-Strauss, Rayner, Melly etc. in the global sense... some of them may be known very well in Britain, but relative to the world, they're just as famous as DeBakey, Hsue-shen or Upward and would probably make for better threads than a few of them too... Tammy Faye Messner is pretty obscure in the UK. I think you'd struggle to find more than 3 people in a workplace of 100 that would know who she actually was rather than sometimes hearing the name. And that 1 of those 3 will say she's a singer.... But she's pretty darn famous in the US of A. Whereas the four names mentioned above probably aren't even famous in their home towns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octopus of Odstock 2,187 Posted December 15, 2006 But she's pretty darn famous in the US of A. Whereas the four names mentioned above probably aren't even famous in their home towns. Oh I quite agree, and won't dispute that. If it wasn't for MPFC, and MPFC alone I wouldn't even heard of Lindsey Hughes or Edward Upyours. But my point with Messner is not all these US "titans of fame" muster even a raised eyebrow here in the UK -Red Auerbach who, to use just one example? (first thought was Red Adair, the firefighter had died, then realised he was dead already)- It's a two way thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
