Nazi of SS

[Whitehouse 874]

Wasn't the subtext in the title of this topic "Carry on Kampfing"?

[Prophet 251]

Are Hans Sommer and Gühnter Schwägermann still alive? I don't think so.

[Joey Russ 7,263]

1 minute ago, Prophet said:

Are Hans Sommer and Gühnter Schwägermann still alive? I don't think so.

Yes. Hans Sommer and Günter Schwägerman are both alive.

[Prophet 251]

There are no updates from Hans Sommer since 1965. 

[Bass 17]

Hans Lipschis, an Auschwitz guard, has dementia; he was declared unfit for trial because of it back a couple years.

[Davey Jones' Locker 1,325]

"Irrefutable proof" that more top Nazis escaped to Argentina:  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-20/nazi-artefacts-swastikas-hitler-bust-found-in-argentina-raid/8635940

[Guest]

On 1.6.2017 at 12:11, YoungWillz said:

List Updated for Reinhold Hanning:

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Hans Sommer (1914- )

Günther Schwägermann (1915- )

Fritz Jauss (1917-2014)
Josef Scheungraber (1918-2015)

Michael Karkoc (1919- )
Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Ernst Pistor (1920-unknown)
Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Hubert Zafke (1920- )
Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Oskar Gröning (1921- )
Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )
Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)
Sören Kam (1921-2015)
Charles Zentai (1921- )
Gerhard Sommer (1921- )
Herta Bothe (1921- )

Siert Bruins (1921-2015)

Reinhold Hanning (1922-2017)

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)
Otto Carius (1922-2015)
Joachim Boosfeld (1922-2015)

Helma Kisser (1923?- )

Jakiw Palij (1923- )

Johann Robert Riss (1923- )

Alfred Stoerk (Stark/Stork) (1923- )

Ernst Tremmel (1923?-2016)

Aksel Andersen (1924- )

Jakob Denzinger (1924-2016)
Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

Helmuth Leif Rasmussen or Rasboel (1924- )

Theodor Szehinskyj (1924- )

 

EDITED: Earlier List previously used.

 

Herta Bothe is dead according to the German wiki and the Russian one, but there seems to be a disagreement on the year

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertha_Bothe

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Боте,_Герта

[Joey Russ 7,263]

37 minutes ago, sadgirldreaming93 said:

 

Herta Bothe is dead according to the German wiki and the Russian one, but there seems to be a disagreement on the year

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertha_Bothe

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Боте,_Герта

He was interviewed in 2009, so the German wiki is more likely to be correct. Though I don't know when in 2009...

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Joey Russ said:

He was interviewed in 2009, so the German wiki is more likely to be correct. Though I don't know when in 2009...

 

She was a woman actually...

From my understanding, that interview was filmed in either 1999 or 2000. It was discussed in this forum back in 2004 -

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=19001&start=30

 

And the famous "did I make a mistake?" question was quoted in this article from 2005

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nazi-she-devils-566055

 

So it's safe to say this interview couldn't have been recorded later. The person who added the "2009" on that footage clearly made a mistake.

[Joey Russ 7,263]

Ah, I could definitely tell she's female now. For some reason, she reminded me of Roddy Piper. I don't know why...

[GossipGabe 333]

1 hour ago, sadgirldreaming93 said:

 

She was a woman actually...

From my understanding, that interview was filmed in either 1999 or 2000. It was discussed in this forum back in 2004 -

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=19001&start=30

 

And the famous "did I make a mistake?" question was quoted in this article from 2005

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nazi-she-devils-566055

 

So it's safe to say this interview couldn't have been recorded later. The person who added the "2009" on that footage clearly made a mistake.

I think that 2009 date was referring to when it was aired on a certain German (state?) TV channel, but you are right that she's likely dead. I guess this topic is gonna be obsolete in about 10 years at most, since even the youngest and longest-lived perpetrators would be dead for good by then.

[Prophet 251]

Oskar Groning is fit for prison. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oskar-groening-fit-prison-nazi-auschwitz_us_5982c81de4b06d488874337b

Now he should be definitely on the Deathlist next year.

[Joey Russ 7,263]

Just now, Prophet said:

Oskar Groning is fit for prison. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oskar-groening-fit-prison-nazi-auschwitz_us_5982c81de4b06d488874337b

Now he should be definitely on the Deathlist next year.

Actually, that seems quite the opposite tbh...

[Guest]

On 1.6.2017 at 16:54, YoungWillz said:

This article indicates that both Jauss and Pistor are deceased. https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Filtirreno.gelocal.it%2Fempoli%2Fcronaca%2F2016%2F01%2F28%2Fnews%2Fcondannato-e-libero-ora-per-il-nazista-si-richiede-il-processo-1.12850402&edit-text

 

There are death notices here http://www.trauerforum-altkreis.de/Traueranzeige/Fritz-Jauss for Fritz Jauss born 1917 who died in 2014. Will accept that.

 

Can't find anything more definite on Pistor though. Any German readers with info?

 

Found two obits from 2011 for someone named Ernst-August Pistor. Pretty sure it's the same guy - born in 1920, was held by the Americans for two years after the war...

http://www.rdm-berlin-brandenburg.de/aktuelles/archiv/details.html?tx_news_pi1[news]=391&cHash=0f1d978feed8d138a25fed1f6adafabb

http://www.bz-berlin.de/artikel-archiv/ein-wahrhaft-erfuelltes-leben-fuer-unsere-stadt

[YoungWillz 21,212]

Interesting. The article I read in 2015 really glossed over him, but talked about him as though he was still alive.

 

1920 was a "best guess" at his birthdate - the articles all refer to his conviction in 2011 as him being aged 91. If he died in the July as above, it was only a couple of months after his conviction (which he was appealing), which I would have thought would have engendered some newspaper coverage, but alas I can't find anything.

 

I'll stick this as a provisional on the list fwiw.

[YoungWillz 21,212]

On ‎2‎/‎29‎/‎2016 at 16:19, gcreptile said:

Trial of Hubert Zafke about to collapse just like he is:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3469055/Nazi-medic-Auschwitz-Anne-Frank-arrived-stand-trial-today-deaths-3-000-people.html

Prosecutors call for the end of proceedings: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4840636/Case-against-Nazi-helped-kill-3-700-thrown-out.html

[gcreptile 11,074]

On 31.8.2017 at 16:32, YoungWillz said:

Prosecutors call for the end of proceedings: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4840636/Case-against-Nazi-helped-kill-3-700-thrown-out.html

Ended:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4877080/Fury-murder-case-against-Auschwitz-worker-thrown-out.html

[YoungWillz 21,212]

List Updated for Charles Zentai: https://www.jta.org/2017/12/22/news-opinion/world/man-tied-to-murder-of-hungarian-jew-in-budapest-dies-at-96-in-australia

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Hans Sommer (1914- )

Günther Schwägermann (1915- )

Fritz Jauss (1917-2014)
Josef Scheungraber (1918-2015)

Michael Karkoc (1919- )
Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Ernst Pistor (1920-2011?)
Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Hubert Zafke (1920- )
Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Oskar Gröning (1921- )
Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )
Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)
Sören Kam (1921-2015)
Charles Zentai (1921-2017)
Gerhard Sommer (1921- )
Herta Bothe (1921-?? )

Siert Bruins (1921-2015)

Reinhold Hanning (1922-2017)

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)
Otto Carius (1922-2015)
Joachim Boosfeld (1922-2015)

Helma Kisser (1923?- )

Jakiw Palij (1923- )

Johann Robert Riss (1923- )

Alfred Stoerk (Stark/Stork) (1923- )

Ernst Tremmel (1923?-2016)

Aksel Andersen (1924- )

Jakob Denzinger (1924-2016)
Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

Helmuth Leif Rasmussen or Rasboel (1924- )

Theodor Szehinskyj (1924- )

[msc 18,536]

Genuine question. Was Hardegen actually a Nazi/SS guy, or just a ranking U-boat/soldier guy? If the latter, bit mean to have him next to folk who ordered mass murders, be like comparing Winkle Brown to the chap who OK'd the firebombing of Dresden or something.

[YoungWillz 21,212]

4 minutes ago, msc said:

Genuine question. Was Hardegen actually a Nazi/SS guy, or just a ranking U-boat/soldier guy? If the latter, bit mean to have him next to folk who ordered mass murders, be like comparing Winkle Brown to the chap who OK'd the firebombing of Dresden or something.

I have no idea. The list was initially compiled from folk mentioned on this thread previously.

[drol 12,138]

3 hours ago, msc said:

Genuine question. Was Hardegen actually a Nazi/SS guy, or just a ranking U-boat/soldier guy? If the latter, bit mean to have him next to folk who ordered mass murders, be like comparing Winkle Brown to the chap who OK'd the firebombing of Dresden or something.

Hardegen was just a good U-boot commander and a great soldier. He was always kind ad respectful to crews he captured, saved survivors from the ships he sank and brought them to neutral countries if possible. In fact he was a good man and a reluctant Nazi, who criticized Hitler directly while having dinner with him and was punished for that by Jodl. Towards the end of the war he was in hospital due to illness and did not fight against English in France. Overall he never took part in any atrocity of WWII and he was prisoned by British because they mistaked him for another official.

 

The only fault of Hardegen was being on the losing side of the war. he would be celebrated as a hero if he was British or American. I'm glad he is still alive at 104 and may God bless him .

 

 

[Prophet 251]

3 hours ago, YoungWillz said:

List Updated for Charles Zentai: https://www.jta.org/2017/12/22/news-opinion/world/man-tied-to-murder-of-hungarian-jew-in-budapest-dies-at-96-in-australia

 

Reinhard Hardegen (1913- )

Hans Sommer (1914- )

Günther Schwägermann (1915- )

Fritz Jauss (1917-2014)
Josef Scheungraber (1918-2015)

Michael Karkoc (1919- )
Hans Lipschis (1919- )

Ernst Pistor (1920-2011?)
Walter Schuck (1920-2015)

Hubert Zafke (1920- )
Rudolf von Ribbentrop (1921- )

Oskar Gröning (1921- )
Algimantas Dailidé (1921- )
Heinrich Boere (1921-2013)
Sören Kam (1921-2015)
Charles Zentai (1921-2017)
Gerhard Sommer (1921- )
Herta Bothe (1921-?? )

Siert Bruins (1921-2015)

Reinhold Hanning (1922-2017)

Vladimir Katriuk (1921-2015)
Otto Carius (1922-2015)
Joachim Boosfeld (1922-2015)

Helma Kisser (1923?- )

Jakiw Palij (1923- )

Johann Robert Riss (1923- )

Alfred Stoerk (Stark/Stork) (1923- )

Ernst Tremmel (1923?-2016)

Aksel Andersen (1924- )

Jakob Denzinger (1924-2016)
Helmut Oberlander (1924- )

Helmuth Leif Rasmussen or Rasboel (1924- )

Theodor Szehinskyj (1924- )

Hans Sommer and Gühnter Schwägermann are very likely dead.

[YoungWillz 21,212]

39 minutes ago, Prophet said:

Hans Sommer and Gühnter Schwägermann are very likely dead.

Point me to some evidence for your proposition, and I'll turn them blue or red.

[gcreptile 11,074]

According to whosdatedwho Günther Schwaegermann is possibly single:

 

http://m.whosdatedwho.com/dating/gunther-schwagermann

[Prophet 251]

For Hans Sommer: There's no proof that he's alive since 1965.

For Günther Schwägermann: https://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1900

Günther Schwägermann was the one-eyed adjutant to Dr. Goebbels. His last rank was, I believe, SS-Hauptsturmführer effective 30.7.1942; SS-nr. was 312231. Schwägermann was born 24.7.1915 survived the war and died quite a few years ago.