Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted March 18, 2013 The Daily Mail claims it has damning documents indicting the Pope for his role in the Dirty War. France 24 also claims that the Junta would have informed the Church of any arrests of priests and wonders if the Church will apologise for its sins in Argentina. This other article has a more positive view of the Pope and feels he may have even been courageous in organising the priests' eventual release but then goes on to discuss the Jesuits themselves in more detail: If he had become pope 50 years ago, there would have been another, greater issue at stake in his past. This would be his unique Jesuitical background. Many 19th Century historians termed the Jesuits the great collective villains of the post-Enlightenment era, blaming them for everything from snuffing out the Renaissance to driving Protestantism out of half of Europe, even to plotting murders of monarchs who struggled with the Church. Trained to an incredible level of discipline and obedience, members of the order were reportedly obliged even to commit mortal sins if told to do so by their superiors. It was always a matter of the end justifying the means, and an organizational rigidity that, even its Catholic critics noted, “admitted no alteration except in a more rigid direction.” Two centuries later, history takes a brighter view. There have been important Jesuit biologists and astronomers, linguists, naturalists and sociologists. Their schools and universities supply decent education to Catholics and non-Catholics alike, all over the world. Many modern Jesuits were strong supporters of Liberation Theology. But big questions remain: what sort of supreme religious leader can a man trained in the Jesuitical traditions of moral casuistry and probablism — sanctified moral relativism and Machiavellian duplicity — end up being? For that matter, how does the practice of lifelong utter obedience avail you when you are at the summit of the billion-person global power structure? How does a tradition of utter rigidity prepare you to run a Church direly in need of so much change? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaninblack 2,112 Posted March 18, 2013 Of course the Daily Mail were hammering it about the Argentinian junta day after day even before 1982. Hmmm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,043 Posted April 2, 2013 It turns out the whole "one lung" thing was an exaggeration - only the upper part of his right lung was removed, rather than the entire lung. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spade_Cooley 9,637 Posted May 21, 2013 Already performing exorcisms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,078 Posted June 11, 2013 Admits that there is a "gay lobby"/velvet mafia in the Curia. Also says that he is too unorganised to do reforms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted June 27, 2013 The new pope is actually going to take on the Mafia Vatican Bank: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-27/vatican-bank-inquiry/4784124 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,648 Posted June 27, 2013 The new pope is actually going to take on the Mafia Vatican Bank: http://www.abc.net.a...inquiry/4784124 That should increase his potential for being on next year's list. If he makes it that far ala Pope John Paul I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,648 Posted July 22, 2013 Gone to Brazil and won't use an armoured Popemobile. Conclave anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,552 Posted July 22, 2013 Gone to Brazil and won't use an armoured Popemobile. Conclave anyone? I heard he won't be using the Popemobile this time round as he apparantly goes against his belief of putting his faith in bulletproof glass instead of "God". Although if I heard correctly, he's asking for his followers to pray that his flight goes safely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted July 22, 2013 Gone to Brazil and won't use an armoured Popemobile. Conclave anyone? Gone to Brazil and won't use an armoured Popemobile. Conclave anyone? A home-made bomb has just been discovered near a shrine he is to visit... By the way, the new Pope showed his true colours last month: "This fraternal mood is also true as far as ecumenism is concerned. Francis talks a lot about Christian unity and emphasizes the importance of common prayer and brotherly relationships. Technically, this is what “spiritual ecumenism” is all about, i.e. unity that is expressed in joint prayer, although he has not been using this language so far. All non-Catholic counterparts, from Liberal Protestants to many Evangelicals, seem to like this and have the impression that he is rather easy-going as far as unity is concerned. He recently told the audience in St. Peter’s square that he had spent half an hour in prayer with an Italian Evangelical pastor (June 19th). Less people paid attention to what he had just said before, i.e. that unity means being in fellowship with the Pope and the bishops. Beyond the seemingly Pauline language, he endorsed the Roman Catholic view that unity means to be cum Petro (with Peter) and sub Petro (under Peter)." Source: http://vaticanfiles....h-pope-francis/ All hail the new dictator of Christendom! Some protestants are fuming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,648 Posted November 1, 2013 In keeping with his drive to better serve the poor Pope Francis has abandoned his traditional gold cross in favour of an iron one. Which is fine as a symbol of austerity but if Pope Benedict has awarded himself an iron cross there would have been hell to pay. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom 2,552 Posted November 1, 2013 In keeping with his drive to better serve the poor Pope Francis has abandoned his traditional gold cross in favour of an iron one. Which is fine as a symbol of austerity but if Pope Benedict has awarded himself an iron cross there would have been hell to pay. That reminds of this joke Hitler goes up to heaven and is stopped by St. Peter at the pearly gates.... Adolf : I am Adolf Hitler, let me in St.Peter : sorry mate but you've been a very naughty boy, you have to go to the fiery gates of hell Adolf : If you let me in I vill give you ze Iron Cross St.Peter : hmmmmm? Hang on a sec, I'll get someone with higher authority than me St.Peter returns with Jesus.... Jesus : sorry Adolf but you're in the wrong place Adolf : If you let me in I vill give you ze two Iron Crosses Jesus : Hang on a sec, I'll go and see someone with higher authority than me Jesus goes to see God... Jesus : ere dad, there's this Hitler bloke at the gates says he'll give me two Iron Crosses if I'll let him in? God : Two Iron Crosses? You couldn't handle a wooden one let alone two made of iron you prat! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted November 13, 2013 Pope Francis 'is mafia target after campaigning against corruption' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bibliogryphon 9,648 Posted November 13, 2013 Pope Francis 'is mafia target after campaigning against corruption' Even more scary he is targeted by Sarah Palin 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted November 13, 2013 Pope Francis 'is mafia target after campaigning against corruption' Even more scary he is targeted by Sarah Palin :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death Impends 8,043 Posted November 14, 2013 Pope Francis 'is mafia target after campaigning against corruption' Even more scary he is targeted by Sarah Palin The wolves must be thankful she found a new target 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,078 Posted June 27, 2014 He canceled an event for health reasons for the second time this month: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/pope-francis-again-cancels-event-citing-illness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted June 27, 2014 Interesting. Happens just after his second wave of criticism of the Mafia, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,078 Posted August 19, 2014 He expects to live another two or three years and may retire if he feels too weak: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/19/pope-francis-expects-live-two-three-years-may-retire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 6,367 Posted August 19, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-28853002 He has also lost 3 family members in a car accident which may cause a further decline if he is as ill as is being claimed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 19, 2014 This is shocking news ! I expected Pope Francis to live at least another 10 years.I thought Benedict would go first .That's why he took over ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Zorders 1,272 Posted August 19, 2014 He expects to live another two or three years and may retire if he feels too weak: http://www.theguardi...ears-may-retire I'm not surprised. Over the years he would have learned a lot of valuable lessons about when to quit, 'cause of all those couples who decided to gamble and lost everything when they should have just taken the prizes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Guest Posted August 19, 2014 I note that all 4 of Pope Francis's younger brothers have died,s o longevity is not a family trait ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcreptile 11,078 Posted August 19, 2014 And now his niece-in-law and two grand nephews have died in a car crash: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/pope-francis-family-car-crash-_n_5690915.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davey Jones' Locker 1,325 Posted August 19, 2014 And now his niece-in-law and two grand nephews have died in a car crash: http://www.huffingto..._n_5690915.html God might be sending him a message after the evil bastard showed his true colours with his endorsement of military action yesterday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
