Political Discussions And Ranting Thread

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14 minutes ago, ladyfiona said:

"good, make sure they go back within the month" but with a racist undertone

 

Feargal Sharkey would like a word, he doesn't think that's an Undertone.

 

 

 

*To my knowledge no group was ever named 'The Fucking Blatants' but I suppose it's possible.

[The Old Crem 3,652]

4 hours ago, Thatcher said:

9.30am, Radio 4 - Pat McFadden, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, states it ‘should be a relatively swift decision’ to change the proscribed status of the HTS rebel group in Syria.
 

5.00pm, ITV - Prime Minister states no decision is pending at all on this and we shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves.  
 

In other news, Foreign Secretary on his feet in the Commons talking about an increase in asylum claims from Syria due to the the present circumstances. Meanwhile, Home Office simultaneously announces that they have suspended all Syrian asylum claims. 
 

So pleased to have adults back in charge with clear joined up communications.

I honestly think Labour might well win less seats in 2029 then the Tories won in July. 

[Clorox Bleachman 2,482]

10 minutes ago, The Old Crem said:

I honestly think Labour might well win less seats in 2029 then the Tories won in July. 

Why are you so obsessed with 2029, Crem? Regardless of your political opinions, there are so many productive ways you can get involved in politics that don't involve wishing for 5 years to pass as quickly as possible. It's sooner than you think.

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1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

I honestly think Labour might well win less seats in 2029 then the Tories won in July. 

 

What do you think dishonestly?

 

And it's not 'less', it's

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12 hours ago, Clorox Bleachman said:

Why are you so obsessed with 2029, Crem? Regardless of your political opinions, there are so many productive ways you can get involved in politics that don't involve wishing for 5 years to pass as quickly as possible. It's sooner than you think.

 

Because he's wanking himself into a coma at the prospect of a Farage government with 600 seats or summat. 

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12 hours ago, Toast said:

 

What do you think dishonestly?

 

And it's not 'less', it's

 

I may have said it before but whilst I can be a right pain in the arse about grammar when it suits me, my attitude towards this particular error has softened ever since I remembered there's no such distinction between countable and uncountable when it's in reference to a greater amount not a lesser - it's just more in either case. That's plainly nonsensical logically if not grammatically.

It still grates though, I guess I'm a traditionalist in these things.

 

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1 hour ago, En Passant said:

 

I may have said it before but whilst I can be a right pain in the arse about grammar when it suits me, my attitude towards this particular error has softened ever since I remembered there's no such distinction between countable and uncountable when it's in reference to a greater amount not a lesser - it's just more in either case. That's plainly nonsensical logically if not grammatically.

It still grates though, I guess I'm a traditionalist in these things.

 

 

Can't pass up an opportunity to use a Stannis meme though. 

[The Old Crem 3,652]

I will be amazed if Ed Miliband is still a cabinet Minster this time next year. It’s clear many on the frontbench want him gone.

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You thought Ed Davey was doomed in January tbf!

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The covetous cunts in Jerusalem are opportunistically grabbing Syrian land now. They just do whatever they want. Kill as many as you like, steal as much as you can, you'll get a free pass because you're the 'Chosen Ones' and/or the evils done to you 70+ years ago have to be paid for with the blood and land of the Arabs, for some reason.

[The Old Crem 3,652]

His biggest problem might be the Daily Mail was hinting suggesting he might be a friend of Charlie. 

[The Old Crem 3,652]

Does nobody at N.10 read the papers. Starmer is losing popularity every single day because he is never at home and he is still going on trips. They honestly make the Tories look competent.

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5 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Does nobody at N.10 read the papers. Starmer is losing popularity every single day because he is never at home and he is still going on trips. They honestly make the Tories look competent.

 

Good to hear they're honest though.

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27 minutes ago, Toast said:

 

Good to hear they're honest though.

 

'Don't believe everything you read' never had much mileage in the Crem household.

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7 hours ago, The Old Crem said:

Does nobody at N.10 read the papers. Starmer is losing popularity every single day because he is never at home and he is still going on trips. They honestly make the Tories look competent.

 

The only thing that is keeping Starmer in my 'good' books is the sheer vitriol with which the right wing press are going for him and his team. The papers that have spent the last 14 years spinning the lies that came out of Conservative Central office now Want you to believe the country is going to the dogs because someone to the left of Herman Goring is in 10 Downing Street. Honesty is his biggest problem. He is identifying a problem and trying to fix it. He doesn't get all the calls right but I will judge him by where he finishes his term not where he starts it

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5 hours ago, Bibliogryphon said:

 

The only thing that is keeping Starmer in my 'good' books is the sheer vitriol with which the right wing press are going for him and his team. The papers that have spent the last 14 years spinning the lies that came out of Conservative Central office now Want you to believe the country is going to the dogs because someone to the left of Herman Goring is in 10 Downing Street. Honesty is his biggest problem. He is identifying a problem and trying to fix it. He doesn't get all the calls right but I will judge him by where he finishes his term not where he starts it

Communication has been his biggest problem so far. He's reasonably competent so far compared with what we had before, but he's clearly not a natural communicator and struggles with his PR. It's good to be honest with people about the extent of the problems and what needs to be done to put the country back on track, but he needs to be better at showing the public the light at the end of the tunnel and what it looks like, give them a more detailed sense of the long term vision, especially when certain sections of the population are being asked to make sacrifices. As things stand, he doesn't have a good shield against the 'incumbent syndrome' suffered by every world leader these days: any bad thing that happens in his term will be blamed on him, even if it's not his fault. More charismatic leaders tend to be more skilled at deflecting blame for everything.  

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22 minutes ago, Sod's Law said:

Communication has been his biggest problem so far. He's reasonably competent so far compared with what we had before, but he's clearly not a natural communicator and struggles with his PR. It's good to be honest with people about the extent of the problems and what needs to be done to put the country back on track, but he needs to be better at showing the public the light at the end of the tunnel and what it looks like, give them a more detailed sense of the long term vision, especially when certain sections of the population are being asked to make sacrifices. As things stand, he doesn't have a good shield against the 'incumbent syndrome' suffered by every world leader these days: any bad thing that happens in his term will be blamed on him, even if it's not his fault. More charismatic leaders tend to be more skilled at deflecting blame for everything.  

Which is unusual for a barrister. Barristers tend to be natural communicators but he is not really that. 

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1 hour ago, The Old Crem said:

Which is unusual for a barrister. Barristers tend to be natural communicators but he is not really that. 

 

Loath as I am to agree with you, I do think Sir Keir Starmer KC, former DPP, has been surprisingly bad at presenting the case for his government and its policies.

 

For a laugh I looked up the required skills to be a barrister on the National Careers Service website. How many of these do we think he's demonstrated as PM?

[The Old Crem 3,652]

The Daily Mirror has turned on Labour with a hostile headline about WASPI women decision. Not often the Daily Mail and Mirror have the same negative headline but for very different reasons . 

[The Old Crem 3,652]

Lord Peter Mandelson the next UK ambassador to the USA. Interesting appointment. 

[The Old Crem 3,652]

I think Starmer has underestimated how little trust people have on politics with his various u turns cutting through to the oublic on a bigger scale than expected.