Wickerman 76 Posted October 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, Toast said: No, it doesn't. The aim of the Shadow List is to offer a comparable alternative to the Death List. There's nothing wrong with people making their own personal list, but that's not the same thing. Quite agree with COMPARABLE. Concerning the two names that Ulitzer95 highlighted: Ted Luscombe obituary was published in The Times, Francis Jackson obituary in The Guardian. Are obituaries in these newspapers DL worthy? And please recognise that the ‘perspective’ that I was referring to was that of Ulitzer95 in making their observations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted October 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Wickerman said: Quite agree with COMPARABLE. Concerning the two names that Ulitzer95 highlighted: Ted Luscombe obituary was published in The Times, Francis Jackson obituary in The Guardian. Are obituaries in these newspapers DL worthy? Think you're confused between the DDP and the DL. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ulitzer95 said: Think you're confused between the DDP and the DL. Not in the slightest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,152 Posted October 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, Wickerman said: Quite agree with COMPARABLE. Concerning the two names that Ulitzer95 highlighted: Ted Luscombe obituary was published in The Times, Francis Jackson obituary in The Guardian. Are obituaries in these newspapers DL worthy? And please recognise that the ‘perspective’ that I was referring to was that of Ulitzer95 in making their observations. The point of the Shadow List is to try and pick the sort of names that the Committee might pick. Admittedly they do go for an occasional anomaly, but not many. It's not an exact science, but I don't think those two are people I would expect the Committee to pick, regardless of obit status. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Toast said: The point of the Shadow List is to try and pick the sort of names that the Committee might pick. Admittedly they do go for an occasional anomaly, but not many. It's not an exact science, but I don't think those two are people I would expect the Committee to pick, regardless of obit status. The point of the Shadow List is to try and pick the sort of names that the Committee might pick. ????????????????? I’m not entirely certain that this makes any sense whatsoever. Perhaps someone from ‘The Committee’ might want to clarify this thought. And what constitutes an ‘Anomaly’. If you’re trying to suggest that many followers of DeatLiist should give up creating Shadow lists and simply go away I think you’re getting close to that point. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toast 16,152 Posted October 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wickerman said: The point of the Shadow List is to try and pick the sort of names that the Committee might pick. ????????????????? I’m not entirely certain that this makes any sense whatsoever. Perhaps someone from ‘The Committee’ might want to clarify this thought. And what constitutes an ‘Anomaly’. If you’re trying to suggest that many followers of DeatLiist should give up creating Shadow lists and simply go away I think you’re getting close to that point. No, of course I'm not suggesting that. I've already explained that there's a difference between the Shadow List and other personal lists. A couple of names that I would describe as anomalies are Ruby Muhammed and William Gates Sr. By and large the names on the DL are usually those that would be familiar to most British people of a certain age. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Toast said: No, of course I'm not suggesting that. I've already explained that there's a difference between the Shadow List and other personal lists. A couple of names that I would describe as anomalies are Ruby Muhammed and William Gates Sr. By and large the names on the DL are usually those that would be familiar to most British people of a certain age. Well I suppose that you do have to be of a certain age to recognise Mary Lee and the Roy Fox band 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted October 4, 2022 Debating on DeathList can be mildly amusing, but ultimately meaningless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,190 Posted October 4, 2022 On 10/09/2022 at 12:24, Summer in Transylvania said: Gary Burgess Igor Bogdanoff Harry E. Goldsworthy Nehemiah Persoff Kane Tanaka George Pérez Bernard Cribbins OBE Marsha Hunt Queen Lillibet II Loretta Lynn 10/55. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 586 Posted October 4, 2022 11th hit for me with Loretta Lynn. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Daredevil 1,189 Posted October 11, 2022 My personal 2023 Shadowlist, at this point in time Any opinions and suggestions for improvements would be greatly appreciated. Leslie Phillips Bob Barker Glynis Johns Rolf Harris Henry Kissinger Jimmy Carter Nigel Starmer-Smith David Graham Jacques Delors Harry Belafonte Joanne Woodward Ted Kaczynski Milan Kundera Pelé George Alagiah Tony Bennett Stanley Baxter James Watson June Spencer Joss Ackland Sandy Gall Pope Benedict Emperor Akihito William Russell Giorgio Napolitano Jiang Zemin Rosalynn Carter Jean-Marie Le Pen Barbara Walters Robert Wagner Norman Tebbit Prunella Scales Yoko Ono Françoise Hardy Topol Marianne Faithfull Joan Plowright Alberto Fujimori Ayatollah Ali Khamenei Cleo Laine Burt Bacharach Douglas Hurd Pervez Musharraf Bill Treacher Eva Marie Saint Jerry Lee Lewis James Earl Jones Ted Turner John Farnham Alain Delon Reserves Vanessa Redgrave Liza Minnelli Willie Nelson 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,062 Posted October 11, 2022 Whoo, 8 massive hits for me with Angela Lansbury. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,190 Posted October 11, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 16:50, Summer in Transylvania said: Gary Burgess Igor Bogdanoff Harry E. Goldsworthy Nehemiah Persoff Kane Tanaka George Pérez Bernard Cribbins OBE Marsha Hunt Queen Lillibet II Loretta Lynn Dame Angela Lansbury DBE 11/55 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted October 11, 2022 Sidney Poitier KBE Monica Vitti Gail Halvorsen Tom Parker June Brown OBE Tom Smith Jean-Louis Trintignant Frank Williams Larry Storch Dame Olivia Newton-John Mikhail Gorbachev Bill Turnbull Dame Angela Lansbury 13/50 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unknown Man 586 Posted October 11, 2022 Dame Angela Lansbury's passing brings my hit total for 2022 to 12. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted October 20, 2022 Sidney Poitier KBE Monica Vitti Gail Halvorsen Tom Parker June Brown OBE Tom Smith Jean-Louis Trintignant Frank Williams Larry Storch Dame Olivia Newton-John Mikhail Gorbachev Bill Turnbull Dame Angela Lansbury Jimmy Millar 14/50 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted October 26, 2022 18/50 Dead Pierre Soulages 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Putin 423 Posted October 27, 2022 5/50 hits for me for now Sidney Poiter June Brown Mikhail Gorbachev Queen Elizabeth II Marsha Hunt Was about to include Jerry Lee Lewis yesterday, but then he was suddenly alive. Did notice however that I hadn't include Marsha Hunt. Can't believe how many names I had on last year's list that I didn't include this year who I did not include this year. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,190 Posted October 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, Putin said: Can't believe how many names I had on last year's list that I didn't include this year who I did not include this year. Just a hunch, but all of them? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,062 Posted October 28, 2022 Jerry Lee Lewis takes me to 9 hits. Whole lotta raking going on... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ulitzer95 12,654 Posted October 28, 2022 Sidney Poitier KBE Monica Vitti Gail Halvorsen Tom Parker June Brown OBE Tom Smith Jean-Louis Trintignant Frank Williams Larry Storch Dame Olivia Newton-John Mikhail Gorbachev Bill Turnbull Dame Angela Lansbury Jimmy Millar Jerry Lee Lewis 15/50 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoorSlammer 563 Posted October 28, 2022 JLL puts me into double digits. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungWillz 21,062 Posted November 8, 2022 Leslie Phillips takes me to double figures (10) of fully competitive with the DL hits. None of your barely known foreigners, Scottish footballers or minor historical figures here, baby! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wickerman 76 Posted November 8, 2022 19/50 Dead Leslie (Sub-Lieutenant) Phillips Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Summer in Transylvania 2,190 Posted November 8, 2022 On 11/10/2022 at 20:45, Summer in Transylvania said: Gary Burgess Igor Bogdanoff Harry E. Goldsworthy Nehemiah Persoff Kane Tanaka George Pérez Bernard Cribbins OBE Marsha Hunt Queen Lillibet II Loretta Lynn Dame Angela Lansbury DBE Leslie Phillips CBE 12/55. Same as last year and we still have December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
